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A Neat Little Comparison Chart
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Rational Agnostic
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One think even conservatives have to admit is that Obama had a squeaky clean presidency. No criminal activity, scandals, or even affairs (that we know of).
And yet, his record is looking better & better compared to his successors.
This is especially so on civil rights.
Looking over the past half century or so, IMO the biggest changes
are that Nixon's stock has risen, as Reagan's has declined.
Full disclosure: I voted against both of them.
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No, conservatives have learned over the past few decades that they never have to fess up to the truth. We live in a new age, the age of truthiness, not truth.
Where's the reference for this image and its data? Anybody can slap a chart together.
I'm putting you on notice for possibly ruining a perfectly
silly argument by asking for evidence of cromulence.
The accuracy of the chart is immaterial.
Drizzt Do'Urden
Deistic Drow Elf
I think this meme originated on DailyKOS... That makes it suspect.
All this proves is that Democrats are good at smearing Republicans when they get into office. It's like throwing schit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I'm not saying Republicans are necessarily innocent of some of the things they are accused of, but to believe that Democrats are this group of squeaky clean people without any skeletons in their closets is just nonsense.
When you've got a liberal press in control of the flow of information, it's easier to hide... (I can hear the accusations of tinpottery) ;-)
All this proves is that Democrats are good at smearing Republicans when they get into office. It's like throwing schit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I'm not saying Republicans are necessarily innocent of some of the things they are accused of, but to believe that Democrats are this group of squeaky clean people without any skeletons in their closets is just nonsense.
When you've got a liberal press in control of the flow of information, it's easier to hide... (I can hear the accusations of tinpottery) ;-)
What would be interesting is to see how many more Trump has within his 1st year in office compared to Nixon at year one. Is he ahead of the game, and god-forbid if he makes it past his first term, will he "Trump" Nixon's numbers?
Given that Nixon's policies in today's environment would be classed as liberal or more to the left in the domestic policy sphere, I agree. Besides, history causes details to vanish which is another point.
To be accurate is immaterial in your view. That is a classic troll statement. Or if youy're serious, much much worse.
I agree. I think we can find common ground on that. Politicians as a class are and should be suspect.
I don't see the mainstream media as all that liberal. I see them as neo-liberal. Big difference. At any rate, they certainly ain't progressive.
The left admits when people on it's side do the wrong thing - look at senators and others who have resigned when things came out. The right lies and attacks the media and judiciary and licks Donny's boots before hiding under the bed like cowards.
Trump may break Nixons record.
Way to miss the mirth in my post, Rover!
tytlyf
Not Religious
The press isn't liberal. Most news is moderate and factual journalism. CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc are moderate. These days moderates look liberal to conservatives because the republican party is so far to the right these days. The republican establishment doesn't like the direction the party is going, but they have no choice given the conservatives are the ones who keep the party going.
Here's a chart on media bias. You'll notice the RW entertainers are mostly in dangerous categories.
Drizzt Do'Urden
Deistic Drow Elf
It used to be we had a two party system, but those days are long gone methinks. The truth of the matter is that there are professional politicians, and then there is the rest of us.
I have a friend who works in Washington who has basically said the same thing... He hobnobs with people from both parties, and behind closed doors all of these people are buddy buddy and on the same page, but in public they play the part of partisans. Sure, there are a few who are ideological purists and it isn't true to say that all of these politicians are in cahoots, but it's true enough to say (my position about professional politicians).
I strongly disagree about the MSM though. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, the number of people in the media who personally were liberals/Democrat supporters was something like 60%. In the 90's and 2000's that number went up to around 75%. Today it's probably like 80-85% who identify with and vote exclusively Democrat. It's ridiculous to say they don't lean left and in most cases sit on stories about people they identify with ideologically.
Drizzt Do'Urden
Deistic Drow Elf
rolling my eyes...
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I got this from another source but did not have the time to check it out, other than some items I already knew about, such as the 0's with Obama's presidency.
I would think you could google it president by president, but I don't have the time to do that. However, I don't think anyone who has followed politics for decades now is likely to disagree at least with the brunt of what it shows.