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A New Argument from Evil

love

tri-polar optimist
I have been working on a new logical argument from evil. However, in this post, I am substituting "injustice" for evil since it can be argued that evil is subjective and hard to define. However, this argument that I am proposing is just meant to be a logically valid argument; whether it's sound or can be made sound is open to debate. So I am inviting feedback and criticism on this argument. My new proposal for a logical argument from evil can be stated as follows:

1.) If any divine being is omnipotent ("omnipotence" meaning that there are no nonlogical limits to this being's power), then such a divine being has the requisite power to prevent acts of injustice from occurring.

2.) If any divine being is omniscient ("omniscience" meaning that there are no nonlogical limits to this being's knowledge), then such a divine being has the requisite knowldge to prevent acts of injustice from occurring.

3.) If any divine being is transcendent ("transcendence" meaning that there are no limits imposed on any entity by space, time, matter, or energy; such a being would exist outside of the phyiscal cosmos), then such a divine being is not constrained from anything in the physical cosmos that would prevent such a divine being from preventing acts of injustice from occurring; any transcendent divine being is totally free to act.

4.) If any divine being is necessary just, then such a divine being can only act justly; it is impossible for any divine being to act injustly if such a divine being is necessarily just.

5.) Acts of injustices have occurred and continue to occur: sexual assualt, human trafficking, theft, premeditated murder, genocide, acts of torture and terrorism-just to name some.

6.) According to the Generalized Principle of Command Responsibility, any conscious and moral agent who has the requisite power and requisite knowledge to prevent acts of injustice from occurring has a duty to prevent acts of injustice from occurring. A failure to act on this duty is to be guilty of willful criminal negligence.

7.) If any divine being is omnipotent, omniscient, transcendent, and necessarily just, then such a divine being has the requisite power, requisite knowledge, total freedom, and duty to prevent acts of injustice.

8.) If any divine being exists that is omnipotent, omniscient, transcendent, and necessarily just, then no acts of injustice have ever occurred and will not occur.

9.) There does not exist any divine being that is omnipotent, omniscient, transcendent, and necessarily just.

The biggest problem with this argument, granted, is that "justice" is not defined or explained. I am still studying jurisprudence and theories of justice. However, if any other problems or even flaws in this argument can be detected, I would appreciate it if readers would mind pointing them out to me so I can either amend my argument, or if need be, abandon it.

There is much evil in this world perputated by mankind. No other creature on earth has the capacity to use it's brain to willing commit acts that it understands to be totally evil.
On the flip side no other creature has the capacity to do so much good and have an infinite love for it's suroundings.
The life time of a man to an omniescent existance is infinitely shorter in time than the blink of an eye.
You have no argument from me that evil is not alive and well.
Some chose to build monuments to themselves because they know death awaits them. They cannot see past death.
Some men are just insanely evil.
Some men live their lives caring for others before themselves.
Is this the seperating of the wheat from the chaffe?
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
I'm not sure what the purpose of this thread is.

What does evil have to do with the universe and existence?
 

Blackdog22

Well-Known Member
You fall asleep when you want to do evil (so evil can’t ever happen). Or everybody is invulnerable (forever? to everything?, we wouldn’t have to do anything for survival?).

Sounds like simple beings in a garden of eden again. I’ll choose God’s current universe, I believe He’s a lot smarter than us.




Immortal and invulnerable? Isaac Asimov (a noted atheist by the way) correctly said (in his criticism of the traditional view of heaven) to the effect that he could think of no greater hell than living forever (we don’t grasp infinity very well). In eastern religions there is the concept of no permanent soul (but one that lasts for many, many lifetimes and merges in the One).





Bad idea.

Do you believe in an actual Heaven? If so it sure sounds like you would hate to live their. :sarcastic
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Do you believe in an actual Heaven? If so it sure sounds like you would hate to live their. :sarcastic

Heaven-like states are only temporary. Eventually you will outgrow even that and realize oneness with God/Brahman. This latter state is something we can't conceptualize well; heaven is something we can somewhat conceptualize so that is what was taught in traditional Christianity/Islam.
 
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