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Question Everything
In short, yes.
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Question Everything
This is one of those complicated questions. What does one understand by "true" science and religion? Science is by definition always imperfect and changing. And really, so is religion.
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Question Everything
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
It is difficult to answer such an absurd question.
Truth does indeed change, in many and important ways. "Most people are illiterate" used to be true, for instance.
Jack_Ripper
Member
Nope, I totally disagree. Science has weird explanations for all the things, or in fact have none at all.
Surya Deva
Well-Known Member
I agree complete. A religion is not true if it does not agree with science. I proudly belong to a religion which is scientific and leagues ahead of our current scientific knowledge.
Surya Deva
Well-Known Member
There are temporal truths and absolute truths. You mentioned a temporal truth, an absolute truth for that statement would be "All people have the spark of knowledge"
So Idea's statement is correct: The truth is always the same, only our perspective on it changes.
interfaithdilaog
Member
I strongly agree. All science are in congruence with the religion, but I mean Islam.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
All true things must agree, otherwise they are not true. That being said, religion has had to a lot of shuffling to adjust to the truths found by science, and not the other way around.
I am preferring currently to use the phrase "true-significance" as more descriptive than "truth".
That said, the true-significance of religion and the true-significance of science are essentially and vitally different. Needless to say, I don't agree.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
science does not deal with the truth
it deals with models of the truth
religion also deals with models of the truth
not the truth itself
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People tend to get confused and lost
and assume both actually deal with the truth
In reality science is ever bit as "truthful" as religion
It is just that science's truth can be easier to discern because they deal with the 5 senses in what has become knon as the scientific method
science and religion are thus, already the same, people fail to see that because theya re stuck thinking one emthodology is superior or incompatible wih another...
Until the incompatibility can be rectified, the two will never re-unite again....
it deals with models of the truth
religion also deals with models of the truth
not the truth itself
...
People tend to get confused and lost
and assume both actually deal with the truth
In reality science is ever bit as "truthful" as religion
It is just that science's truth can be easier to discern because they deal with the 5 senses in what has become knon as the scientific method
science and religion are thus, already the same, people fail to see that because theya re stuck thinking one emthodology is superior or incompatible wih another...
Until the incompatibility can be rectified, the two will never re-unite again....
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Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
as both use different yard sticks to measure
and both use different models of reality
wrong and right are essentially meaningless
a model is a model
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
logicalthought123
Faithless-- Rush
There is no such thing as a true religion. They are all too contradictory to be true.
All? Have you studied thoroughly all of them?
And is it contradictory, or paradoxical?