A question

[Spiritone]

When science takes the existence of forces unseen into consideration they will be finally on the right track. Then progress can really be made.

 

[footprints]

I would like to ask everyone if they agree with this statement:

Do you think that: All true religion and all true science must agree.

monomonk

Do I think all true religions and true science must agree?

Knowledge is a learning curb. When we have all knowledge, then we will see if science and religions align with each other.

Until that time, what I will say is; Reality must ultimately align with reality, irrespective of what people may perceive reality to be.

 

[Spiritone]

There is a very interesting theory, that consciousness, of which we all have a part of, creates everything as we go along. That means that whether we 'see' things, the world, all material things, spiritual things from a religious or scientific perspective, we, collectively create them. We, all of us are co-creators or maybe just part of the creator. As long as you see/believe things to be the way others told you they are you are creating what they told you to create.
Questioning everything is the best thing anyone can do and analyzing and creating your ideal world with as many of like-minded people as possible.
Hope I described that ok.

 

[goodjewishboy]

I think the problem some people have reconciling science and religion lies in the thought that both attempt to answer the same questions. Clearly science is well equipped to ask and find answers to how questions. Religion is only ever able to answer why.

 

[sonofskeptish]

When science takes the existence of forces unseen into consideration they will be finally on the right track. Then progress can really be made.

When the religious don't take the existence of forces unseen and blindly and without reason attribute them to the work of their God, they will be finally on the right track. Then progress can really be made.

 

[Spiritone]

When the religious don't take the existence of forces unseen and blindly and without reason attribute them to the work of their God, they will be finally on the right track. Then progress can really be made.

Don't wait for the Religious to join with with Scientists or the traditional scientists to acknowledge the unseen forces. Spiritually minded people, different to the Religious and the free thinking scientists are on their way to getting together. Then we'll get somewhere. imo..

 

[uss_bigd]

Could you (or monomonk) provide us with some evidence that shows us where God created science?

I was under the impression that people like Sir Isaac Newton, Enrico Fermi, and Jonas Salk invented (or created) the items for which they received credit in the history books.

Oddly, I also thought that the scientific method was developed over a couple of milennia, beginning with the Greeks, and later being refined by the likes of Sir Francis Bacon.

What can you show me, in terms of God creating the discipline of science?

could you provide me with evidence that you have a "mind"?

 

[uss_bigd]

All true things must agree, otherwise they are not true. That being said, religion has had to a lot of shuffling to adjust to the truths found by science, and not the other way around.

the biblical religion will always be in sync with science

 

[uss_bigd]

There is no such thing as a true religion. They are all too contradictory to be true.

The Biblical religion is the true religion, how can you find out? read my signature

 

[uss_bigd]

Then what if something that science says is disagreed by a religion?

Who is the incorrect one?

It could mean the religion is false, provided the scientific pronouncement you are referring to is an undeniable fact

 

[obi one]

What can you show me, in terms of God creating the discipline of science?

could you provide me with evidence that you have a "mind"?

Science is simply an imperfect means to try and understand Nature. Under normal circumstances, F=ma, but at high speeds, it no longer works accurately. Scientist aren't even sure about the limiting speed of light. Science is filled with empiral formulas or theories which work under certain conditions.

Isaac Newton, one of the foremost scientist of all times, studied and wrote on Scripture & science.
Isaac Newton’s writings on God uploaded

You can read Newton's writing yourself, but personally, I think he looked to Scripture for insight into the buiding blocks of the Universe. Newton didn't invent gravity, he simply describes it in a manner which works in most cases. Scientist of today still look for the key to unlocking the universe, but they fail, because they don't look to the author of its' creation.

As for what Scripture says, "there is nothing new under the sun". (Solomon)

 

[9Westy9]

I would like to ask everyone if they agree with this statement:

Do you think that: All true religion and all true science must agree.

monomonk

Agreed. Unfortunately I'm not sure that true science and true religion will ever be known

 

[zenzero]

Friend Monomonk,

All true religion and all true science must agree.

Personal understanding is that yes and no.
Science is a part of Religion and so YES;
whereas religion is not a part of science and so NO!

All that science can do or has done is to decipher somethings that already exists and nothing beyond existence which religion speaks off and prrof of exietnce are those very so called discoveries & inventions of science.

Love & rgds

 

[PolyHedral]

What can you show me, in terms of God creating the discipline of science?



Science is simply an imperfect means to try and understand Nature. Under normal circumstances, F=ma, but at high speeds, it no longer works accurately. Scientist aren't even sure about the limiting speed of light. Science is filled with empiral formulas or theories which work under certain conditions.

Isaac Newton, one of the foremost scientist of all times, studied and wrote on Scripture & science.
Isaac Newton’s writings on God uploaded

You can read Newton's writing yourself, but personally, I think he looked to Scripture for insight into the buiding blocks of the Universe. Newton didn't invent gravity, he simply describes it in a manner which works in most cases. Scientist of today still look for the key to unlocking the universe, but they fail, because they don't look to the author of its' creation.

As for what Scripture says, "there is nothing new under the sun". (Solomon)

The authors of the Bible have no conception of the fundamental building blocks of the universe. They weren't invented until 1600 years after the Bible was written, usually later.

 

[Caladan]

I would like to ask everyone if they agree with this statement:

Do you think that: All true religion and all true science must agree.

monomonk

Religion deals with the community, science deals with the physical world. if you insist that religion is limited to supernaturalism, miracles, or the spiritual dimension then you are going to have friction with science. but no one is to say that you cannot enjoy your faith and still accept the fruits of science at the same time.