A rare occurence from God

[djhwoodwerks]

You might study with them for enough time. They are terribly persuasive.

John 14:30 John 12:31 2 Corinthians 4:4 Ephesians 6:12 Colossians 1:13 1 John 5:19

Are you talking to me? LOL. Thank you. When you assume you make an *** of U and me. < that is true. I know. You probably don't pay attention to much of people's posts and then draw conclusions based on them. God did not give Satan dominion over the Earth. OK?

Your post sure sounded like you were agreeing with him/her.

 

[savagewind]

Your post sure sounded like you were agreeing with him/her.

Yes, I know. Whenever I state what someone thinks is fact, they think it is me believing it.

 

[savagewind]

@djhwoodwerks if you studied with them, you would know that what is being taught to them is made to look like perfect sense. That was my point. I have even imagined that there has to be something else behind it all because I don't think those men are that smart.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

@djhwoodwerks if you studied with them, you would know that what is being taught to them is made to look like perfect sense. That was my point. I have even imagined that there has to be something else behind it all because I don't think those men are that smart.

I studied with an elderly gentleman for almost 2 years, he was like kjw47, when asked a question he didn't know, he would open the, "what does the Bible really teach" book and quote what it said and then looked up the scriptures. If they would read the Bible FIRST, without the nonsense of their "real teachers" they might just learn the truth.

 

[savagewind]

I studied with an elderly gentleman for almost 2 years, he was like kjw47, when asked a question he didn't know, he would open the, "what does the Bible really teach" book and quote what it said and then looked up the scriptures. If they would read the Bible FIRST, without the nonsense of their "real teachers" they might just learn the truth.

I was curious and I read the Bible first and it scared me. I also did not understand why God allowed God's son to be tortured and die. So, when two young JW ladies came to my door and mentioned Jesus, I was hooked. I began the Bible study trustingly and with the goal to understand. If you understood scripture before your study with that man it explains why you could not be hoodwinked. I was fooled for a time. After a while, I knew the governing body was not who they claimed to be (144,000 and approved by God to dispense the truths of God) I stayed because I was afraid not to stay. I was waiting to see if they could be/would be corrected. It's funny that our friend @kjw47 says that he knows they are true by the way they are willing to be corrected and I see that they are UNwilling to be corrected. Perception is a wonderful thing! Isn't it?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

kjw47 says that he knows they are true by the way they are willing to be corrected.

Yeah, I just can't rap my head around a god that will let his ONLY teachers, teach his ONLY true followers, false teaching just because it isn't the "proper time" for them to know the truth. The God I know and believe in ALWAYS wants me to know the truth! He won't let me be taught lies just because it isn't time to know the truth. That, "proper time" jazz is just the way his "real teachers" cover their backsides for when they get caught up in their lies.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

You better re read Matt 24:45--because if Jesus appointed them,

I truly believe Jesus did appoint them, and at the proper time, truths are revealed through them.

Tell me why you truly believe those 7/8 men are the only teachers your god has in the world, since they have a history of, "running ahead of Jehovah" and teaching things they weren't told to teach.

I know, I know, they make corrections. But think of it this way kjw47, if they have to make correction, they were wrong, since they were wrong, they weren't guided by the Holy Spirit, if they weren't guided by the Holy Spirit, they were eating off the table of demons, and if they were eating off the table of demons, so was every witness in the world! Since they were eating off the table of demons and got it wrong, (we know they did because they had to make correction) how in the world can you be sure what they are teaching now, and everything else they teach, is not off the same table? Haven't you told us that the Bible says you can't eat of the table of demons and the table of God?

 

[Oeste]

Yeah, I just can't rap my head around a god that will let his ONLY teachers, teach his ONLY true followers, false teaching just because it isn't the "proper time" for them to know the truth. The God I know and believe in ALWAYS wants me to know the truth! He won't let me be taught lies just because it isn't time to know the truth. That, "proper time" jazz is just the way his "real teachers" cover their backsides for when they get caught up in their lies.[/user]

I couldn't agree with you more.

Haven't Christians historically raised the alarm, correcting the Governing Board as they "channel" their different gospel of "new" truths?

This idea that God speaks to His "anointed" through lies which they are to serve as nourishing "food" until God deems it the "proper time" to reveal the real truth (which needs to be "corrected" from "time to time") is certainly the type of deception one expects when you have a "Governing Board" claiming "flashes of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14) as they communicate "divine" truths through a dubious spiritual channel.

 

[savagewind]

The very fact that they are wrong sometimes means that they lean on their own understanding which is something that they teach their followers not to do, but they do it.

That is called hypocrisy. Matthew 23:27-28

 

[savagewind]

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless
James 1:26

Because the GB teaches error during the time they wait for the proper food, your own Bible @kjw47 is calling their worship worthless.

Is it sometimes worthless and sometimes from Jehovah? How is that possible?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Is it sometimes worthless and sometimes from Jehovah? How is that possible?

That's true, kjw47 himself has said that no one can eat off the table of demons AND the table of God.

 

[kjw47]

Read it very slowly kjw47, slowly and carefully!!

Genesis 1:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea AND over the birds of the heavens AND over the livestock AND over all the earth AND over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”




kjw47, does the spirit world rule over you? If not, then the spirit world does not rule 100%!!

No matter what you think--God still has powerful angels in place with Jobs perse--satan was watcher over the Garden or earth. There is an event in the ot--one of Gods angels couldn't get by the demon angel in charge of Syria. Michael had to intervene. Mortals are far under spirit beings. They even actually think they are in control on earth. Jesus said--satan is the ruler of this world. He beat 99% living now centuries ago.

 

[kjw47]

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless
James 1:26

Because the GB teaches error during the time they wait for the proper food, your own Bible @kjw47 is calling their worship worthless.

Is it sometimes worthless and sometimes from Jehovah? How is that possible?

I explained to you--no religious teacher on earth knew those truths yet taught on them--It took correction. Those teachings were always in the bible-- No teacher ever taught truth on them until these last days--it took --CORRECTION>What don't you understand about this-Daniel 12:4

 

[kjw47]

I was curious and I read the Bible first and it scared me. I also did not understand why God allowed God's son to be tortured and die. So, when two young JW ladies came to my door and mentioned Jesus, I was hooked. I began the Bible study trustingly and with the goal to understand. If you understood scripture before your study with that man it explains why you could not be hoodwinked. I was fooled for a time. After a while, I knew the governing body was not who they claimed to be (144,000 and approved by God to dispense the truths of God) I stayed because I was afraid not to stay. I was waiting to see if they could be/would be corrected. It's funny that our friend @kjw47 says that he knows they are true by the way they are willing to be corrected and I see that they are UNwilling to be corrected. Perception is a wonderful thing! Isn't it?

wOW direct opposition to the teachers Jesus appointed and Jesus and God--direct opposition. We need not converse anymore. I hope you find your way.

 

[kjw47]

Tell me why you truly believe those 7/8 men are the only teachers your god has in the world, since they have a history of, "running ahead of Jehovah" and teaching things they weren't told to teach.

I know, I know, they make corrections. But think of it this way kjw47, if they have to make correction, they were wrong, since they were wrong, they weren't guided by the Holy Spirit, if they weren't guided by the Holy Spirit, they were eating off the table of demons, and if they were eating off the table of demons, so was every witness in the world! Since they were eating off the table of demons and got it wrong, (we know they did because they had to make correction) how in the world can you be sure what they are teaching now, and everything else they teach, is not off the same table? Haven't you told us that the Bible says you can't eat of the table of demons and the table of God?

God has seen the wickedness in mortal hearts--99% mislead into wicked lives all throughout the history of mortal man. He sees it now-2Timothy 3-- He never had more than a single religion.

 

[roger1440]

To get eternal life one must know-The Father-YHWH(Jehovah) and Jesus( John 17:3) most are taught to stop at Jesus--they cant win then.

But Jesus isn't here.

 

[kjw47]

But Jesus isn't here.

The truth about him is in the bible. The truth about His God and Father is in the bible as well.

 

[savagewind]

I explained to you--no religious teacher on earth knew those truths yet taught on them--It took correction. Those teachings were always in the bible-- No teacher ever taught truth on them until these last days--it took --CORRECTION>What don't you understand about this-Daniel 12:4

It doesn't say knowledge will increase by Jesus real teachers. It just says that it will increase.

In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Acts of the Apostles 2:17

Can you explain how the Bible says women will prophesy but there has never been a woman on the governing body and there never will be?

If nothing can be known before your Jesus teachers know it why does the Bible say that women will know?

 

[savagewind]

wOW direct opposition to the teachers Jesus appointed and Jesus and God--direct opposition. We need not converse anymore. I hope you find your way.

I think you mean that you hope I find YOUR way.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

wOW direct opposition to the teachers Jesus appointed

kjw47, what is your 100% fact or undeniable evidence that Jesus actually appointed those 7/8 men you call your "real teachers"?