How do you know that Luke 10:16 isn't about me?
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A rare occurence from God
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kjw47
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The one single religion Jesus began, are a worldwide brotherhood, unified in love, peace, and unity of thought, takes organization. One under, YHWH(Jehovah) and his king-Jesus. Our king.
The same bible reading weekly-worldwide, discussed in the congregation weekly. The watchtower with spiritual food, backed by scriptures in the verses. worldwide weekly the same spiritual feeding. And local needs.
You better re read Matt 24:45--because if Jesus appointed them, you are walking a dangerous path. I truly believe Jesus did appoint them, and at the proper time, truths are revealed through them.
Good, my dear friend! You are getting somewhere. Notice, you did not say "know". May Jehovah bless you and keep you safe.
djhwoodwerks
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Well look who started it!
Come on kjw47! Please READ it for yourself
Job 1:6-7 (ESV Strong's) 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.”
God asked satan where he came from, satan said he was on the earth, going to and fro and walking up and down on it, you see that kjw47? Open your eyes, leave the darkness and READ IT FOR YOURSELF!!
kjw47
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kjw47
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Satan was given dominion over the earth before he rebelled, so of course he goes to the earth, other angels are on earth daily-- Satan went to heaven in Job--at the war in heaven was booted out forever--so it did NOT occur in Genesis. It occurred at Rev 6--here in these last days= 1914
But, you do not know them. You are not allowed to know anything about them except for what you are told. They might know them. You don't.
djhwoodwerks
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Please provide scripture for that!!!!!
kjw47
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God promised all of us -holy spirit to comfort and to remind. The bible is filled with Gods will.
kjw47
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I am not exactly sure. But its why he was there, It was him speaking through the serpent. Possibly could turn into one. He controlled the weather and killed Jobs children. He was a very high up angel. The bible says he got jealous and wants to be worshipped. In the wilderness, offered Jesus-Every kingdom( govt, armies,supporters, lands) on earth for Jesus to do an act of worship to him( because he controls them is the only way he could offer them, then and now( Rev 16), he wanted Jesus to sin and fail. Thus-sin= worship to satan.
djhwoodwerks
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Then how in the world can you say that satan was given dominion over the earth?
My Bible says,
Genesis 1:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
God gave man dominion over the earth, so, who in your opinion, has dominion over the earth, man or satan? Umless of course you can provide scripture where God gave satan dominion over the earth above man.
You might study with them for enough time. They are terribly persuasive.
John 14:30 John 12:31 2 Corinthians 4:4 Ephesians 6:12 Colossians 1:13 1 John 5:19
But, on the other hand,
Ephesians 1:22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
That page proves to me that they are 100% wrong about Jesus receiving a crown because he has always had it.
Revelation 19:11-16
Psalm 8:6
You make him to rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
1 Corinthians 15:27
For "God has put everything* under His feet." Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.
*I suppose now the Jehovah's Witnesses must prove that Satan isn't a part of everything else. That he is separate.
Ephesians 1:22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
That page proves to me that they are 100% wrong about Jesus receiving a crown because he has always had it.
Revelation 19:11-16
Psalm 8:6
You make him to rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
1 Corinthians 15:27
For "God has put everything* under His feet." Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.
*I suppose now the Jehovah's Witnesses must prove that Satan isn't a part of everything else. That he is separate.
Oh, what does it mean? LOL
It means that the Jehovah's Witnesses have set Satan apart, but what God means is separateness. I know it is semantics, but that doesn't mean it isn't real.
They are saying that Satan isn't under the influence of God or Jesus, but that is not what the Bible says.
It means that the Jehovah's Witnesses have set Satan apart, but what God means is separateness. I know it is semantics, but that doesn't mean it isn't real.
They are saying that Satan isn't under the influence of God or Jesus, but that is not what the Bible says.
Romans 13:1
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.
That is why they can say that Satan was given the authority to rule.
Also; Daniel 4:25
that you be driven away from mankind and your dwelling place be with the beasts of the field, and you be given grass to eat like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven; and seven periods of time will pass over you, until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes.
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.
That is why they can say that Satan was given the authority to rule.
Also; Daniel 4:25
that you be driven away from mankind and your dwelling place be with the beasts of the field, and you be given grass to eat like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven; and seven periods of time will pass over you, until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes.
djhwoodwerks
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You might want to read those verses again, and again if necessary, none of those verses say, "satan was GIVEN dominion over the earth"! The only person that could have GIVEN satan dominion over Gods earth, is God. So where does the Bible say God GAVE satan dominion over the earth?
kjw47
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Yes God gave man dominion over the animals and such, he gave satan dominion over them all. That is why satan was there in the garden. But no matter what all the entailed for man--The spirit world rules 100%.
Its in the ot somewhere, I will check.
djhwoodwerks
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Read it very slowly kjw47, slowly and carefully!!
Genesis 1:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea AND over the birds of the heavens AND over the livestock AND over all the earth AND over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
kjw47, does the spirit world rule over you? If not, then the spirit world does not rule 100%!!
Are you talking to me? LOL. Thank you. When you assume you make an *** of U and me. < that is true. I know. You probably don't pay attention to much of people's posts and then draw conclusions based on them. God did not give Satan dominion over the Earth. OK?