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A warning from Biden

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
What happened to diversity, equity, inclusion, social justice, reparations, climate justice, and bringing back the favoritism of people based on skin color alone? Have you given up on the idea that all those things are somehow in our Constitution?
Most of that obviously falls under the umbrella of rights, liberty, equality, justice, etc. Affirmative action and reparations are flawed concepts, however.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
In my opinion, if MAGA Republicans had the slightest hint of personal intergrity, they wouldn't be his sychophantic supporters in the first place. Despite the shortcomings of the Democratic Party, I consider the Democrats to be less of a threat to freedom, liberty, and justice for all than MAGA-conservative [Christian] Republicans. However, I wish they would choose a better candidate other than Biden, but if it comes down to him and Trump again in the 2024 presidential election, my choice is clear. I'll vote for Biden again. I voted Republican for 26 years until the 2016 presidential election. I voted third party for the first time ever in that election, and I voted Democratic for the first time ever in the 2020 presidential election. I refuse to support the Republican Party with my votes and money again as long as Trump and his sycophantic cohorts are controlling it. I think he and his loyal cohorts are a serious threat to our democracy. So I'll continue to support the Democrats by voting for them and financially supporting the Democratic Party. I think it's the least I could do.
Trump famously said: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" which turned out to be true. They have no scruples. Religious posturing is their alternative to a genuine moral compass.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Trump famously said: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" which turned out to be true. They have no scruples. Religious posturing is their alternative to a genuine moral compass.
How would you know if it's true or not? Trump didn't stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot anyone, did he? Or is that something else that will be made up to indict him?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Like what? He also said he would put Hillary in jail… never happened. We have a system of checks and balances.

You haven't been paying attention to the news, or are you just mainly watching or reading Fox? What did he recently tell Hannity about his first day if elected? about the Constitution? about settling scores? about putting Joe Biden in prison? Ever listen to former RNC chairman Michael Steele on what Trump's been doing? Liz Cheney? Adam Kinzinger? etc.?

But seems that you're also saying it's all fine & dandy even under the Gospel to yell "Lock her up!". What about all his hate-filled rallies? We saw even before the 2016 election what Trump was and is like, and yet all so many supposed people-of-faith voted for him anyway, and millions still will according to recent polls. Jesus condemned such compromises, such as in his Parable of the Sheep & Goats [Matt. 25]. Some talk-the-talk but don't walk-the-walk as Jesus spoke out against.
Biden said he would fix our borders - he didn’t do that either.
He's not omnipotent but neither is Trump. Yes, much more needs to be done, but Congress simply is not willing to even try and work on an immigrant comprehensive plan. Also, the Trump administration separated parents from their children but didn't keep track of them, thus some still haven't been reunited.

There's a lot more, but I'm done.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Trump famously said: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" which turned out to be true. They have no scruples. Religious posturing is their alternative to a genuine moral compass.

He makes me feel sick to my stomach. I can't even stand to hear the sound of his voice, see him on television, or see his picture in the news.

Because they still stand by him despite being a corrupt, incompetent, treasonous rapist.

And so many of his supporters have accused Democrats of being immoral and godless.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
And so many of his supporters have accused Democrats of being immoral and godless.
Well, allowing young children to be subject to predatory doctors to use frankengender methods to alter their bodies is rather godless. No surprise such practices are advocated where democrats have a majority.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
How would you know if it's true or not? Trump didn't stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot anyone, did he?
But why would any person of moral faith even say such a thing?

Answer: (s)he wouldn't. Even if only got carried away and said something they shouldn't have, they should apologize, and some of us actually do that. Did you ever hear Trump apologize for anything???
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You haven't been paying attention to the news, or are you just mainly watching or reading Fox? What did he recently tell Hannity about his first day if elected? about the Constitution? about settling scores? about putting Joe Biden in prison? Ever listen to former RNC chairman Michael Steele on what Trump's been doing? Liz Cheney? Adam Kinzinger? etc.?

I actually haven’t paid too much attention other than the Constitution. I am so over all this hubbaloo about Trump even as i am over all the same huabbloo of Biden. Basically, just read the titles and move on about what does interest me… Israel


But seems that you're also saying it's all fine & dandy even under the Gospel to yell "Lock her up!".

Of course not. I don’t think Hunter Biden’s and family actions are right either. If it were me, I would fire half of Congress.
What about all his hate-filled rallies? We saw even before the 2016 election what Trump was and is like, and yet all so many supposed people-of-faith voted for him anyway, and millions still will according to recent polls. Jesus condemned such compromises, such as in his Parable of the Sheep & Goats [Matt. 25]. Some talk-the-talk but don't walk-the-walk as Jesus spoke out against.

That’s on both side
He's not omnipotent but neither is Trump. Yes, much more needs to be done, but Congress simply is not willing to even try and work on an immigrant comprehensive plan. Also, the Trump administration separated parents from their children but didn't keep track of them, thus some still haven't been reunited.

There's a lot more, but I'm done.
Seems like you are nicer with Biden than with Trump. But understand. Different perspectives IMV
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That’s on both side
Sorry, but that's called "false equivalency". Biden simply does not pull off the antics that Trump does persistently.

Still seems to me you're getting your propaganda from the likes of Fox and/or other right-wing sources. And yes, I do watch Fox once a while, but then I have to take a shower using Fels Naphtha and Brillo right after. Fox was created by Murdoch to basically be a propaganda channel.

As for myself, I'm all over the place to get my news.

Seems like you are nicer with Biden than with Trump. But understand. Different perspectives IMV

I wish we had a better choice, but between Trump and Biden, I could never vote for the former. You said you voted twice for Trump, and that says a lot-- unfortunately, because way too often he speaks and threatens innocent others, tried to overthrow an election, cheated many times on even his own family. How is that in any way compatible with the Gospel?

BTW, I would never tell a person whom they should vote for and, as an independent, I have voted for candidates from both parties, sometimes a 3rd party as a protest vote, and sometimes I leave it blank.
 
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