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Abortion for profit advertising - Yes/No?
- Thread starter nnmartin
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McBell
Unbound
nmartin is worried about "tactless" advertising of abortions.
Just how more "tactless" can it get than parading around with pictures of dead fetuses?
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend nnmartin,
The truth is that it is happening and so personal approach would be not to involve in irresponsible sex i.e. to take full responsibility of the outcome of sexual activity involved in, instead of blaming the government which we have democratically elected and allowed them to pass such laws and it is we who should vote responsibly so that those whom we elect represents what we think.
Love & rgds
The truth is that it is happening and so personal approach would be not to involve in irresponsible sex i.e. to take full responsibility of the outcome of sexual activity involved in, instead of blaming the government which we have democratically elected and allowed them to pass such laws and it is we who should vote responsibly so that those whom we elect represents what we think.
Love & rgds
nnmartin
Well-Known Member
Who is Mr Weasel Words now then?:sarcastic
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Oh, I totally agree.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Best post on this entire thread! Frubals to you!
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Kathryn,
Thank you, for reading and understanding.
The basic thing that one should understand in whatever they think or act; is that we are all ONE, as beings and as humans and we ourselves are responsible in our own way for all the good/bad that happens on planet earth.
Solutions to everything is available HERE itself just that one needs to look within to find IT and without which leads from one point to another but never satisfactorily.
Love & rgds
Thank you, for reading and understanding.
The basic thing that one should understand in whatever they think or act; is that we are all ONE, as beings and as humans and we ourselves are responsible in our own way for all the good/bad that happens on planet earth.
Solutions to everything is available HERE itself just that one needs to look within to find IT and without which leads from one point to another but never satisfactorily.
Love & rgds
McBell
Unbound
wow.
You know, it would probably be a good idea for you to learn what the terms you try to use actually mean before you make a fool of yourself.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
You're right, how terrible for companies to make money from a medical procedure. They should stop giving vaccines too!
Or is it all for-profit healthcare you oppose?
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
It doesn't matter whether or not people think the school is in the wrong or that the abortion clinic is in the wrong. If both are private, businesses - they have the ability to create their own product, missions, services, etc. and advertise as appropriate.
If the general public doesn't agree with the services, products and/or mission in which they offer/stand-for, they can choose not to partake.
As I've stated, I choose not to waste energy objecting to that which I can easily ignore as I'm not going to give my businesses to that which I don't condone.
nnmartin
Well-Known Member
That is a good question and is actually getting quite close to the key issue.
I guess that I do oppose for-profit healthcare to a large extent.
nnmartin
Well-Known Member
you were trying to obfuscate by subterfuge.
Using an example of the dead fetus banner to discuss tact - switching the sides of the focus no less.
That could easily be said to be a case of 'weasel words'.
McBell
Unbound
Really?
And what exactly was "I" making unclear?
it is not my fault that some people think parading around with pictures of dead fetuses is tactful.
Again, you should learn the definitions of the terms you are trying to use.
Alex_G
Enlightner of the Senses
Whether you agree with abortion or not, the question of whether it is something profit can be morally made on is slightly different question. Additionally its a separate question as to whether you think tv adverts should exist for such clinics.
In my mind abortion is an important issue, and in the ideal world it would be part of free healthcare, and have no strings attached. However, i dont necessarily see a powerful reason why if a private clinic existed and was successful, and was up to standard, cant make some profit from what they do. So long as its not extortionate its no more 'wrong' than any other aspect of the capitalist world.
The only reservation i have is that it might serve to lower the dignity of mothers and their pregnancies, turning them into simple commodities.
Possibly having to pay for abortions might make people take it more seriously, and lower the rates, which might please anti abortionists. But also its a problem if people cannot afford the treatment when they need it, such that i think profiteering is only ok when there is a non profit option too. So that the choice of private is an extra that people can choose, if they have money and prefer the extra service included.
Tv adverts might be inappropriate, as they have a vested interest in promoting the service the bias might lead to the public being exposed to information that numbs down the gravity of the decision to be made, and coerce/convince mothers to choose to have an abortion for the wrong reason. Adverts would have to be subject to a few rules i think.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
a) You aren't going to convince anybody that's a baby anymore then you convince me that it's not. As far as they're concerned, it's no different then taking off a mole or something along those lines.
b) I'd defund abortions if I could and lose no sleep over it. It's a horrible thing being done IMO.
c) Without a doubt I believe abortions are pushed and profits are made. Women don't go to these clinics being 100% sure they want to do it and yet a very high percent of them end up having one.
At any rate, this is my one-hit wonder for this thread as I don't do well debating it. I always end up getting upset.
b) I'd defund abortions if I could and lose no sleep over it. It's a horrible thing being done IMO.
c) Without a doubt I believe abortions are pushed and profits are made. Women don't go to these clinics being 100% sure they want to do it and yet a very high percent of them end up having one.
At any rate, this is my one-hit wonder for this thread as I don't do well debating it. I always end up getting upset.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
Most women who get abortions think quite seriously about it, far more so than 'a mole.' That said, medical science doesn't consider it a baby until viability, and not all religions consider it a baby from conception either. Why is your view inherently correct?
And when they're banned (as no federal funding currently covers them in the US, I assume you mean banning) women will still seek them out as they have throughout all of time. Particularly when birth control is inaccessible, but even in modern culture where it's theoretically available (although in practice it isn't.)
When abortion is illegal, it is the woman who dies.
Why does no one who mourns for the 'babies ever mourn for the women? Because she deserved it? There's no good answer.
Support this by something other than your opinion. Women who go to clinics with a very high level of social stigma attached are already highly motivated. As you note, not all go through with it and yet many do. So where's the disparity?
Hitting an running is hardly better