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Abortion

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
It matters not. My point ultimately is that regardless of the age or developmental stage, all of us (foetus, newborn infant, child, teenager, young adult, etc.) are indeed human beings. Wouldn't you agree? Probably not, but I digress.
Well we are the same species yes, of course. Did you seriously imagine otherwise?
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Well we are the same species yes, of course. Did you seriously imagine otherwise?

I don't know, you tell me, did you not believe that a foetus isn't human? I believe that the fetus is human.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
I don't know, you tell me, did you not believe that a foetus isn't human? I believe that the fetus is human.
Well yes of course it is.
Let's think up an example ok? Say your 14 year old daughter is pregnant and it is an ectopic pregnancy (which means that if you do not abort the foetus and mother will certainly die), would abortion be ok then?
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Well yes of course it is.
Let's think up an example ok? Say your 14 year old daughter is pregnant and it is an ectopic pregnancy (which means that if you do not abort the foetus and mother will certainly die), would abortion be ok then?

I believe that in this specific case, abortion would be acceptable. That being because the fetus actually poses a severe threat to the woman's life. (And who says pro-life individuals don't concern themselves with the woman's health?)
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
I believe that in this specific case, abortion would be acceptable. That being because the fetus actually poses a severe threat to the woman's life. (And who says pro-life individuals don't concern themselves with the woman's health?)
Fantastic.
So let's start from that point ok? We both agree that abortion is acceptable in some circumstances.
So we just differ on where we draw the line right?
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Uh...Although, I think discussing it with the father is a good idea, I do believe that the choice ultimately belongs to the woman. If I'm involved with a woman, regardless of what I believe or what she decides, I would still love her. In any case, I'd have her back, and I won't force her to go through with either choice against her will. As for the state, I believe it should not involve themselves in the private affairs of its citizens.
 
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Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Uh...I do believe that the choice ultimately belongs to the woman. The state should not involve themselves in the private affairs of its citizens.
Fantastic. Wonderful to find such common ground. That is exactly how I feel. Cheers.

Great to get past the arguing thanks.
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Fantastic. Wonderful to find such common ground. That is exactly how I feel. Cheers.

Great to get past the arguing thanks.


Blessed Be and cheers, indeed! I think this was a very productive discussion, no?
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Sure. I think that the most significant point is that of ultimate responsibility, beyond that I don't see a point of difference between us. Cheers.
Yes, the woman must ultimately be the one making the decision.

Blessed Be! Peace to you, dear Bunyip. )0(
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Oh my, are you blushing?
LOL I just honestly believe that we have nailed the critical point. Whatever we believe to be right and wrong, however we define things - whatever our religious or political views, the right of the woman to make the ultimate decision is fundamental.
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
LOL I just honestly believe that we have nailed the critical point. Whatever we believe to be right and wrong, however we define things - whatever our religious or political views, the right of the woman to make the ultimate decision is fundamental.

I do agree. I mean, she should have that decision. Whatever she chooses to do, I believe that it is imperative to affirm her worth and dignity as a human being.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
I do agree. I mean, she should have that decision. Whatever she chooses to do, I believe that it is imperative to affirm her worth and dignity as a human being.
That my friend is the position referred to in US politics as 'Pro-choice'.

Have an awesome day, great to talk to you.
 
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