Abortion

[We Never Know]

Simply because a 10 year old is not a women.
Pregnant or not.
So referring to to a pregnant 10 year old as a pregnant woman is just flat out wrong.

Again. I never mentioned a women or pregnant women in my post.
So why you felt compelled to reply about a pregnant women... I guess your were just seeking attention.

You left off person/ people.
Though I have no idea why your aversion to calling them people/person...
But not a person?

WTF does that have to do with the fact that some people/persons not only can, but do?

Female is distinguishing

Female
adjective

1. of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

The main key in pregnancy is being pregnant.
Does not matter if the female in question is a person, canine, feline, bovine, the pregnant part is the key in pregnancy.

Deflection

I do not refer to ten year olds as women.
Pregnant or not.

I thought I had made that clear, but apparently not.

When I see a anyone pregnant, I see a female.
Why?

Female
adjective

1. of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

You all throw fits if someone refers to transmen as they/them or that person and say its disrespectful but you want to refer to women/females as a pregnant person.

If Bill sees a transgender man and says that person, you will correct him and say you mean that man.
If Bill sees a someone pregnant and says pregnant woman/girl, you will correct him and say you mean pregnant person.

So it seems 'person' isn't good enough for transgendermen but its great for 'pregnant females'.

 

[We Never Know]

I actually prefer the term pregnant person over pregnant woman, pregnant girl, or pregnant transman, simply because it emphasizes the word person, a being with personal rights. I won't throw a hissy fit over people using the word pregnant woman or girl or transman, but I WILL stand up against anyone who says that pregnant person sounds ridiculous, which is what I've been doing here in this thread.

Yeah god forbid we emphasize pregnant females even though females are who can and do get pregnant.

Should we change 'women's rights' to just 'people's rights'?

I mean a transman isn't a woman right?
So do they have women's reproductive rights or do they have people's reproductive rights?

 

[crossfire]

Yeah god forbid we emphasize pregnant females even though females are who can and do get pregnant.

Should we change 'women's rights' to just 'people's rights'?

Sure, why not?

I mean a transman isn't a woman right?
So do they have women's reproductive rights or do they have people's reproductive rights?

A pregnant transman should have the same rights as any other pregnant person, aka personal rights.

 

[We Never Know]

Sure, why not?

There you have it. Dilute women's rights to people's rights.

After all it were males that kept women from voting and climbing the corporate ladder so now lets change their exclusive women's rights to people's rights because of males.

A pregnant transman should have the same rights as any other pregnant person, aka personal rights.

Yep. Women's reproductive rights.

 

[McBell]

Deflection

Really?
What is it that you claim I am deflecting from?

Pregnant refers to a specific.
Even more so than your list of:

1. People with uteruses
2. People with eggs(ovum)
3. People with fallopian tubes
4. People with vaginas
5. People with a placenta
6. Female

 

[crossfire]

There you have it. Dilute women's rights to people's rights.

How is calling equal rights people's rights diluting women's rights?

After all it were males that kept women from voting and climbing the corporate ladder so now lets change their exclusive women's rights to people's rights because of males.

Which rights are exclusive to women?

Yep. Women's reproductive rights.

 

[We Never Know]

How is calling equal rights people's rights diluting women's rights?

Because they are women's rights lol

Which rights are exclusive to women?

Women's reproductive rights.

 

[crossfire]

Because they are women's rights lol

please give specific examples of women's rights that would be diluted by calling them people's rights

Women's reproductive rights.

Are these based on the same rights recognized in all people, or are they based on a different set of rights?

 

[We Never Know]

please give specific examples of women's rights that would be diluted by calling them people's rights

Well lets see... Going from this forum...
Pregnancy and abortion.
-Her body, her choice.
-Show me a biological man than can get pregnant or have an abortion.

Are these based on the same rights recognized in all people, or are they based on a different set of rights?

See above.

 

[crossfire]

Well lets see... Going from this forum...
Pregnancy and abortion.
-Her body, her choice.
-Show me a biological man than can get pregnant or have an abortion.

Show me an instance where the state intervenes in what medical procedures a man chooses to have. Show me where the state takes this right away from men.

See above.

Let me repeat: Are these based on the same rights recognized in all people, or are they based on a different set of rights?

 

[We Never Know]

Show me an instance where the state intervenes in what medical procedures a man chooses to have. Show me where the state takes this right away from men.

**** that. Answer my question.

Well lets see... Going from this forum...
Pregnancy and abortion.
-Her body, her choice.
-Show me a biological man than can get pregnant or have an abortion?

Let me repeat: Are these based on the same rights recognized in all people, or are they based on a different set of rights?

So a biological man has a right to get pregnant and a right to have an abortion? On what planet?

 

[We Never Know]

Show me an instance where the state intervenes in what medical procedures a man chooses to have. Show me where the state takes this right away from men.

Let me repeat: Are these based on the same rights recognized in all people, or are they based on a different set of rights?

You all even have my wife chiming in now.

Men controlled women voting.
Men controlled women from climbing the corporate ladder and that was bad.

Now men are trying to control what to call some one who is pregnant and what a woman is and that's ok lol.

 

[McBell]

**** that.

ROTFLMAO
Of course **** that.
You can not do it and it seriously screws your argument.
ROTFLMAO

So a biological man has a right to get pregnant and a right to have an abortion? On what planet?

Wait, are you claiming that the right to get pregnant only belongs to females?
That males do not have the same rights to get pregnant?

And then you claim on what planet?

 

[We Never Know]

ROTFLMAO
Of course **** that.
You can not do it and it seriously screws your argument.
ROTFLMAO

Yeah **** that. They can't keep demanding me answering questions when they never answer questions.

Wait, are you claiming that the right to get pregnant only belongs to females?
That males do not have the same rights to get pregnant?

And then you claim on what planet?

Wait! Are you claiming biological men have the right to get pregnant?
That biological men can even get pregnant?

 

[McBell]

Yeah **** that. They can't keep demanding me answering questions when they never answer questions.

ROTFLMAO
Of course **** that.
You can not do it and it seriously screws your argument.
ROTFLMAO

Wait! Are you claiming biological men have the right to get pregnant?
That biological men can even get pregnant?

Are you saying you do not know the difference?

I predict more dancing.
prove me wrong.
I dare you.

 

[We Never Know]

ROTFLMAO
Of course **** that.
You can not do it and it seriously screws your argument.
ROTFLMAO

Repeat with no meaning.

Are you saying you do not know the difference?

I predict more dancing.
prove me wrong.
I dare you.

You evidently don't

Wait, are you claiming that the right to get pregnant only belongs to females?
That males do not have the same rights to get pregnant?

And then you claim on what planet?

So I ask again. Are you claiming biological men have the right to get pregnant?
That biological men can even get pregnant?

 

[McBell]

So I ask again. Are you claiming biological men have the right to get pregnant?
That biological men can even get pregnant?

Yes
No

Now it is YOUR turn to answer:

Are you saying you do not know the difference?​

 

[Subduction Zone]

So I ask again. Are you claiming biological men have the right to get pregnant?
That biological men can even get pregnant?

Is a women that gets fertilized by IVF pregnant?

 

[We Never Know]

Yes

No

Now it is YOUR turn to answer:

Are you saying you do not know the difference?​

Yeah I know the difference. Evidently you don't.

 

[We Never Know]

Is a women that gets fertilized by IVF pregnant?

Gee isn't that the point?

Is a biological man that gets fertilized by IVF pregnant? lol