About fossils -- would you say this is true?

[Subduction Zone]

Hold on, I thought God made man out of mud?

And used a golem spell to bring him to life. Ain't magic grand?

 

[YoursTrue]

Look at Fossils of Alberta

Then Google Earth type in Grand Canyon Nationa lPark Badlands National Park, Horseshoe Bend. They all show very good depictions of how layers of sediments and strata have built up over time. @YoursTrue you.

I did look. But sands or soil shifts anyway in a flood situation. And lava is rather old I would also say.

 

[YoursTrue]

No, and now you are bearing false witness against your neighbor. Unjustified assumptions and guesswork are not allowed in the sciences. Concepts can be tested. Once one does that they are no longer assumptions. It is no longer guesswork.

So let's see...the concept of the universe exploding from a really really small particle has been tested?

 

[YoursTrue]

The Bible hasn’t been disproved by anyone anywhere. Have you or any evolutionists made sentient life from mud? Life from mud that has consciousness. Can you explain why humans haven’t evolved into a new species yet going by evolutionary timescales?

I personally cannot explain the details of the creation account, such as God making Adam from the dust but I don't contest it. Although...according to science, life seemed to have started from the ground and/or something out of water. (Moss and fish first.)
I was thinking, however, about breathing. We do really don't come alive after birth until our nostrils take in oxygen. If we stop breathing, we're dead. Amazing when you think about it. Two little nostrils taking in the breath of life.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I personally cannot explain the details of the creation account, such as God making Adam from the dust but I don't contest it. Although...according to science, life seemed to have started from the ground and/or something out of water. (Moss and fish first.)
I was thinking, however, about breathing. We do really don't come alive after birth until our nostrils take in oxygen. If we stop breathing, we're dead. Amazing when you think about it. Two little nostrils taking in the breath of life.

Moss and fish are both eukaryotes and eukaryotes are not the first living things.

 

[YoursTrue]

Moss and fish are both eukaryotes and eukaryotes are not the first living things.

What I was saying is that life supposedly started from something that fell from outer space (yes...I guess I'm talking about abiogenesis) which somehow burgeoned to cellular structures that continued growing to more considered as living matter. Moss and fish was simply a generalization but...yes...what did it start from? Water? Soil? Rocks?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What I was saying is that life supposedly started from something that fell from outer space (yes...I guess I'm talking about abiogenesis) which somehow burgeoned to cellular structures that continued growing to more considered as living matter. Moss and fish was simply a generalization but...yes...what did it start from? Water? Soil? Rocks?

That would be panspermia. It is one hypothesis of the origin of life on Earth.

 

[Audie]

LOL...so you make claims about evolutionists "believing in uniformity" and when I ask you if you believe in uniformity regarding things like gravity and the earth, you declare that to be "pointless" and refuse to answer.

Obviously your talking point about "uniformity" has been effectively negated and you have no idea how to answer the questions, so now you're just waving them away.

This is why creationists always lose in court. In places like this one, you can get away with that sort of transparently dishonest behavior, but if you do that in court there will be consequences.

Thanks for once again demonstrating the fundamentally dishonest nature of creationism.

WF

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What I was saying is that life supposedly started from something that fell from outer space (yes...I guess I'm talking about abiogenesis) which somehow burgeoned to cellular structures that continued growing to more considered as living matter. Moss and fish was simply a generalization but...yes...what did it start from? Water? Soil? Rocks?

Even if living things originated in the soil or rocks, it would include water in the mix. Personally, I favor a marine or terrestrial aquatic origin. A lake, a pond, ocean vent. Something like that. The starting stock of organic molecules could have an extraterrestrial origin I suppose, but I think life started here. Of course, that may reflect my bias from my beliefs.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You're never going to answer the questions I asked you, are you?

Winner Frube (WF)!

 

[F1fan]

So let's see...the concept of the universe exploding from a really really small particle has been tested?

Yet evolution has been sucessfully tested millions of times over the last 150 years and you reject it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

That’s a case of using fossils to date geological ages and then vice versa. Like dating stars by rocks and then rocks by stars. Fuzzy logic.

Fuzzy logic is a technique for representing and manipulating uncertain information.

You will know all this but will still want to go on misleading people, if there’s any.

Yeah, science can also date the stars. There are old stars and new stars. Their indicators are different. Our sun is a middle-aged star.
Of course, the dates arrived are approximate in each type of test and the probability of variations is known and mentioned.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The Bible hasn’t been disproved by anyone anywhere. Have you or any evolutionists made sentient life from mud? Life from mud that has consciousness. Can you explain why humans haven’t evolved into a new species yet going by evolutionary timescales?

I thought you was a science guy. You don't appear to know anything about the theory of evolution. It isn't a theory of the origin of life.

 

[Aupmanyav]

By the way, we can tell by how the beds were laid down that the Earth is hundreds of millions of years old. For example some strata have millions of annual layers. So relative dates within that strata can be measured very precisely.

It is the same in case of ice-sheets of poles and Greenland, and also in case of glaciers. They can be dated and the climatic conditions at the time of each layer can be determined. It is so in case of trees also. The rings of trees tell us the climatic conditions present during the formation of each ring.
@Apostle John should read something other than Bible too.

samples from ice-sheets - Google Search

www.google.com

About Ice Cores | NSF Ice Core Facility

The National Science Foundation Ice Core Facility (NSF-ICF) — formerly the U.S. National Ice Core Laboratory (NICL) — is a facility for storing, curating, and studying meteoric ice cores recovered from the glaciated regions of the world.

icecores.org

You can see the variations even without use any aid.

 

[YoursTrue]

Even if living things originated in the soil or rocks, it would include water in the mix. Personally, I favor a marine or terrestrial aquatic origin. A lake, a pond, ocean vent. Something like that. The starting stock of organic molecules could have an extraterrestrial origin I suppose, but I think life started here. Of course, that may reflect my bias from my beliefs.

You mean life on the earth, don't you? Because from MY beliefs (basically coming from the Bible), life began before life on this earth began. (Look at "In the beginning -- " So that's MY belief in a big way...) And, I might add to the mix, although a bit not according to the topic, but yes, it is in a way pertaining to the topic--the following: "How our Universe was born from nothing or if there was something that existed before it remains a mystery, but that is not stopping some physicists from trying to figure it out." What existed before the Big Bang?
I read the article and I'm thinking it borders on the insane. But I guess the physicists have fun... Article from bbc.com

 

[YoursTrue]

It is the same in case of ice-sheets of poles and Greenland, and also in case of glaciers. They can be dated and the climatic conditions at the time of each layer can be determined. It is so in case of trees also. The rings of trees tell us the climatic conditions present during the formation of each ring.
@Apostle John should read something other than Bible too.

samples from ice-sheets - Google Search

www.google.com

About Ice Cores | NSF Ice Core Facility

The National Science Foundation Ice Core Facility (NSF-ICF) — formerly the U.S. National Ice Core Laboratory (NICL) — is a facility for storing, curating, and studying meteoric ice cores recovered from the glaciated regions of the world.

icecores.org

You can see the variations even without use any aid.

I can only guess that you and the scientists figure the rocks or sediment within the ice gives the age of? -- as if there were no shifting of soil before the ice was formed?

 

[YoursTrue]

Yeah, science can also date the stars. There are old stars and new stars. Their indicators are different. Our sun is a middle-aged star.
Of course, the dates arrived are approximate in each type of test and the probability of variations is known and mentioned.

They put a date on it like we have calendars, is that right? lololol...thank you.

 

[YoursTrue]

Not at all. Charcoal has to be manufactured by cutting wood and partially burning it. So the date the wood was cut will probably be at least within one generation of the date it was used for drawing.

I am not a scientist. I'll look into charcoal/wood dating techniques. And their surmisal.

 

[YoursTrue]

Genesis provides the only information. That probably won’t be good enough for you, even though you like hypothetical science. I didn’t say something about sedimentary rocks being evidence for the flood.


Annual layers? I don’t think so. Your guessing again.

If you get a chance, try looking at the article from bbc about these scientists trying to figure out how it all began ... What existed before the Big Bang?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You mean life on the earth, don't you? Because from MY beliefs (basically coming from the Bible), life began before life on this earth began. (Look at "In the beginning -- " So that's MY belief in a big way...) And, I might add to the mix, although a bit not according to the topic, but yes, it is in a way pertaining to the topic--the following: "How our Universe was born from nothing or if there was something that existed before it remains a mystery, but that is not stopping some physicists from trying to figure it out." What existed before the Big Bang?
I read the article and I'm thinking it borders on the insane. But I guess the physicists have fun... Article from bbc.com

No, according to your beliefs life began much later. Tell my how would you kill your God? You cannot because he is not alive.

And yes, there are unanswered questions in science. The problem is that you do not have any answers at all.

"God done did it Rufus" is a claim, it is not an explanation.