About fossils -- would you say this is true?

[TagliatelliMonster]

How would I know they’re different people? It’s all anonymous. They all appear to sing from the same hymn sheet accusing me of the same things. Therefore it’s the same person either running the forum or hiding behind a vpn.

Or maybe, just maybe....................

All those names are actually different people and the problem is rather you?
Maybe, just maybe, you are making a few very obvious mistakes repeatedly and a bunch of different people are pointing it out to you?

Typical defense mechanism though. Instead of seeing multiple people drawing the same conclusion leading you to perhaps step back and investigate why that is the case, you just assuming that they are all the same person and "out to get you".

Maybe you should try a different approach and indeed step back for once and ask yourself a few critical questions.

 

[Audie]

You are a walking example of logical fallacies.
This time, it's the argument from incredulity

"my evidence against X, is that I don't believe it"

Nobody needs logic or facts when they have received Truth

 

[Aupmanyav]

I already saw photographs of layers, so thanks for that. It doesn't prove that the sediments didn't move from other places due to flooding or earthquake, etc.

Sediments do move from one place to another. I do not know if some member has informed you of that or not. That happens in case of Tectonic plate movement when a whole portion of the Earth is transported to another place due to the movement of underground magma with its flora, fauna and geological formations. In one such case the whole land mass of India separated from the Madagaskar and Africa to smash into the Eurasian continent. The movement is still in progress and the Indian plate in going below the Eurasian plate.

"More than 140 million years ago, India was part of an immense supercontinent called Gondwana, which covered much of the Southern Hemisphere. Around 120 million years ago, what is now India broke off and started slowly migrating north, at about 5 centimeters per year. Then, about 80 million years ago, the continent suddenly sped up, racing north at about 15 centimeters per year - about twice as fast as the fastest modern tectonic drift. The continent collided with Eurasia about 50 million years ago, giving rise to the Himalayas.''

India drift

New MIT research suggests a pair of subduction zones in an ancient Earth ocean may have fueled India’s mysterious rapid move toward Eurasia 80 million years ago.

news.mit.edu

You will be better informed if you do not restrict yourself to just one book.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

you will believe in the evolution theory and other countless theories regarding creation and how we have come to exist to today, even though these theories have never been proven or demonstrated beyond doubt.

Yes. Why? Because it's neither possible nor necessary to do so. How much of what you do every day is based in belief that is NOT "proven or demonstrated beyond doubt"? Did you take a step where a sinkhole might be? Did you drive a vehicle that might have led to your death? That standard simply is very rarely possible in life, and it seems it's only invoked by the religious in discussions like this one, but not for their beliefs, but rather, only for the beliefs of others. Faith is good enough for themselves.

The theory of evolution is correct beyond reasonable doubt. How did all of the evidence in support of the theory get there if not through naturalistic evolution over geologic time? The alternative is logically possible, but not reasonable to believe, that is, that some deceptive superhuman power arranged all of that evidence to look like evolution had occurred.

God could have made the unusual shape of Arrokoth to make atheists think it‘s possible for rocks to collide and stick together in space.

Here's a call to that deceptive intelligent designer now. It's the price you pay for choosing a worldview based in faith rather than empiricism. If you've guessed incorrectly, you're forced to buy into those unreasonable doubts to defend beliefs contradicted by evidence with an endless litany of what-ifs.

"When the philosopher's argument becomes tedious, complicated, and opaque, it is usually a sign that he is attempting to prove as true to the intellect what is plainly false to common sense. - Edward Abbey

 

[SkepticThinker]

Oh there’s another flurry from the same person. I gave up on this thread ages ago. Do you think the Antichrist will headhunt you for this ‘work’. I don’t.

We are three different people.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We are three different people.

No we are not!

 

[F1fan]

We are three different people.

The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Which one am I? Oh, we are all the same.

 

[YoursTrue]

Sediments do move from one place to another. I do not know if some member has informed you of that or not. That happens in case of Tectonic plate movement when a whole portion of the Earth is transported to another place due to the movement of underground magma with its flora, fauna and geological formations. In one such case the whole land mass of India separated from the Madagaskar and Africa to smash into the Eurasian continent. The movement is still in progress and the Indian plate in going below the Eurasian plate.

"More than 140 million years ago, India was part of an immense supercontinent called Gondwana, which covered much of the Southern Hemisphere. Around 120 million years ago, what is now India broke off and started slowly migrating north, at about 5 centimeters per year. Then, about 80 million years ago, the continent suddenly sped up, racing north at about 15 centimeters per year - about twice as fast as the fastest modern tectonic drift. The continent collided with Eurasia about 50 million years ago, giving rise to the Himalayas.''

India drift

New MIT research suggests a pair of subduction zones in an ancient Earth ocean may have fueled India’s mysterious rapid move toward Eurasia 80 million years ago.

news.mit.edu

You will be better informed if you do not restrict yourself to just one book.

It certainly makes sense that sediments move from one place to another. Which further supports the idea that time dating may not be accurately ascertained regarding the age of fossils.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It certainly makes sense that sediments move from one place to another. Which further supports the idea that time dating may not be accurately ascertained regarding the age of fossils.

Those sediments were not disrupted. I know that you will not allow yourself to understand this, but it is rather obvious when sediments have been disrupted. Your willful ignorance is not a refutation.

 

[Aupmanyav]

It certainly makes sense that sediments move from one place to another. Which further supports the idea that time dating may not be accurately ascertained regarding the age of fossils.

Geology has a fair idea of what happened and when with the surface layer of the earth. Religious books show the ignorance of earlier centuries when they make absurd claims.

 

[YoursTrue]

Geology has a fair idea of what happened and when with the surface layer of the earth. Religious books show the ignorance of earlier centuries when they make absurd claims.

From what I am learning, bones (or fossils) are dated according to the soil element within or around. therefore--your conclusion may not be the way I see it.

 

[YoursTrue]

@Aupmanyav the clashing of tectonic plates as well as floods and volcanic eruptions plus more shifting of sands (soil, lava, etc.) would obviously have a great impact on the layer surrounding or involved in a fossil.

 

[Aupmanyav]

From what I am learning, bones (or fossils) are dated according to the soil element within or around. therefore--your conclusion may not be the way I see it.

Your information is as usual incorrect. There are other methods of dating too, e.g., carbon dating.

 

[Subduction Zone]

From what I am learning, bones (or fossils) are dated according to the soil element within or around. therefore--your conclusion may not be the way I see it.

Nope, no soil involved. No one is planting any crops.

 

[Subduction Zone]

@Aupmanyav the clashing of tectonic plates as well as floods and volcanic eruptions plus more shifting of sands (soil, lava, etc.) would obviously have a great impact on the layer surrounding or involved in a fossil.

Yes, if they occurred they would have melted the plates themselves and vaporized Noah and family. Congratulations. You just killed off the last eight people on Earth.

 

[YoursTrue]

Your information is as usual incorrect. There are other methods of dating too, e.g., carbon dating.

Really? Insofar as I understand, and please correct me with information from a qualified source if you disagree or I am wrong, that fossils are dated from the soil invested in them or around them.

 

[Aupmanyav]

@Aupmanyav the clashing of tectonic plates as well as floods and volcanic eruptions plus more shifting of sands (soil, lava, etc.) would obviously have a great impact on the layer surrounding or involved in a fossil.

Soil does not shift by itself. Once embedded in soil or gum, the fossil will remain like that. Fossils can also be found in metamorphic or igneous rocks, though that is not common.

"Fossils can sometimes be found in metamorphic rocks formed from fossiliferous sedimentary rocks altered by heat and pressure. Fossils can even be found in igneous rock created from lahars or pyroclastic flows that entomb trees or other organisms."

Fossilization

petrifiedwoodmuseum.org

 

[Subduction Zone]

Really? Insofar as I understand, and please correct me with information from a qualified source if you disagree or I am wrong, that fossils are dated from the soil invested in them or around them.

No source says that they are dated by soil. I could give you articles about how they are dated, but never by soil.

 

[YoursTrue]

Soil does not shift by itself. Once embedded in soil or gum, the fossil will remain like that. Fossils can also be found in metamorphic or igneous rocks, though that is not common.

"Fossils can sometimes be found in metamorphic rocks formed from fossiliferous sedimentary rocks altered by heat and pressure. Fossils can even be found in igneous rock created from lahars or pyroclastic flows that entomb trees or other organisms."

Fossilization

petrifiedwoodmuseum.org

Who said soil shifts by itself? Maybe I'm wrong, if so can you please show me how because it seems clear that a fossil can remain in soil that shifted long before the bone was embedded in it or soil leached into the bone remains.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Really? Insofar as I understand, and please correct me with information from a qualified source if you disagree or I am wrong, that fossils are dated from the soil invested in them or around them.

The image below gives you an idea about various methods of dating: Dating Method - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
You can find a lot of information on internet which can make you better informed, otherwise you can continue to be misinformed or ill-informed, that is your choice.