What the hell? They were kids. You have no idea how they would have turned out. It's because of that that I can't truly celebrate his death. It's messed up.
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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead
- Thread starter Cooky
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exchemist
Veteran Member
I thought Trump's salivating over the alleged manner of this man's death - which I am fairly sure he made up - was fairly objectionable. But I can't say it surprised me or saddened me exactly.
I was however saddened that children were blown up by Baghdadi, along with the man himself.
exchemist
Veteran Member
...said Trump............who's word is, famously, his bond.
Cooky
Veteran Member
But we can all call him a ******* together for what he did to his children - endangering them all and killing some.
Sure. He was a monster.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Cooky
Veteran Member
ISIS is still worse... Those innocent families died because ISIS hid behind them, using them as human shields. This represents how manipulative and evil Al Baghdadi and ISIS are.
...And now we see Baghdadi blowing up his own children intentionally.
Do you see the trend?
Wish you hadn't said that -- they were innocent until they actually had the opportunity to do something that says they are not.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Is't OK to kill children by the sarin gas as long as the ISIS men are using them as human shields?
Cooky
Veteran Member
No, it shows how dirty and manipulative ISIS is, allowing something like that to happen on purpose. Because ISIS doesn't even care.
They don't even care if they kill their own children, as demonstrated last night.
...It's an ideology that has no respect at all for human life. The worst of the worst.
Cooky
Veteran Member
How ridiculous... ISIS must have truly believed that God would protect them, while they remained in occupied territories allowing themselves and those around them to become targets by multiple nations.
What fools!
Anyone else with any intelligence would have fled, or would have never tried something so stupid to begin with.
What fools!
Anyone else with any intelligence would have fled, or would have never tried something so stupid to begin with.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is tragic, and I don't celebrate it. However, the world is better off with Baghdadi dead and that he killed his children with him, we don't have a crystal ball but there is a very real chance it saved the world from suffering future extremists raised on the esteem their father brought. Baghdadi's life left a wake of death and destruction, fear and horrors, and now he's dead and the world doesn't have to worry about his vengeful children seeking revenge. Remnants of ISIS will no doubt linger, but the world can breathe easier because his part in extremist ideology--which was certainly a significantly larger threat than his contemporaries--is over. That chapter is closed as new ones will begin.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
You blame ISIS for what Bashar Alasad did by killimg many innocent children, I don't say that ISIS is good, we agree they're bad guys but I do not believe that killing Al baghdadi have any effect for the situation in the middle east.
I think they have declared that the ISIS has been collapsed and not existing.
U.S.-backed forces have pushed the Islamic State out of its final foothold in Syria, the White House said Friday, making a long-awaited victory announcement but defying eyewitness accounts of continued fighting.
Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said the group’s “territorial caliphate has been eliminated in Syria.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...39dd02-4cbd-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html
Well, with the trouble Trump's in just now, he'll try to use this to bolster his own image among his supporters, as if he alone gets the credit -- hate to say it, but kind of like Obama and Bin Laden.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why would they run when they truly believe that if/when they die in combat defending the Caliphate they are going directly to Paradise? They aren't stupid, they're zealots.
I don't know that that is necessarily a dichotomy. I think it quite likely that they're both.
Cooky
Veteran Member
I just see Asad as having made mistakes that he should pay for, yes. But ISIS will have always been the bigger danger, because it was a kind of long-term brutality, meant to last.
It was that radical Sunni Wahabism -the deadly cancer that doesn't stop on it's own, but requires physical intervention ten times out of ten. Wherever it goes, war is quick to follow.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
True. I wouldn't have advocated their deaths otherwise, but now we don't have to find out how they would have turned out. It was a real risk it could have been bad.
That's a really disgusting thing to say. Wtf.
Assad needs to face justice before the world, and suffer the consequences of his actions.
But of course, that's the bind he's in right now. He is stuck precisely where he is because the instant he gives up his position of power in Syria, the world will begin the process of bringing him to justice for crimes against humanity. I don't know how it will happen, but Assad will not have a long, peaceful life.