Acceptable Deaths

[oldbadger]

Yes, and for the most part she is stable, although her O2 sats are lower then they were earlier today which could indicate a worsening, and she is not improving any. Oh, and they may need to insert a feeding tube, as she has to lie on her stomach.

So many questions........
How long has your wife been in hospital?
Is she just on O2 or is she being kept alive on a machine...with tube in to her lungs?
Yes I've heard that many patients lay on their stomachs in our local Covid wards.

Feeding tube? That suggests that she has been in this condition for a long time and thus lost weight.

What are her chances?
You must be close, so how did you survive all this yourself?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

and yes eating unclean game meat, it's why most major disease outbreaks start in either China or Africa.

We don't really have much stones to throw about that as two of the largest zoonotic pandemics in modern history came from US pig farms.

 

[stvdv]

China cheats with the number of testing it seems to me, or they do not update. 160.000.000, I wonder how long this number is on the site, and how long it will stay


Now

2 days ago

 

[ChristineM]

So, if the cause is eating unclean game meat, then why Americans have so many more cases. The Chinese for sure don't change their habit of eating. Or did the American adopt the Chinese eating habits? Why there are so many cases in America, and not in China?

Easy, ..China didnt have Trump in chatge

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So, if the cause is eating unclean game meat, then why Americans have so many more cases. The Chinese for sure don't change their habit of eating. Or did the American adopt the Chinese eating habits? Why there are so many cases in America, and not in China?

Because that's NOT the cause. The cause is a virus that's spread through the air. The virus reproduces itself in the cells of a host, sometimes an animal, in most cases a human, and is spread when they cough, or even breathe out.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Sweden did nothing of all of this, and almost got no death cases. That is strange, isn't it?
Probably they have a naturally better immune system, as it is cold there, your immune system gets stronger.

Look again...https://www.google.com/search?sourc...AjExmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdperABAA&sclient=psy-ab

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So, if the cause is eating unclean game meat, then why Americans have so many more cases. The Chinese for sure don't change their habit of eating. Or did the American adopt the Chinese eating habits? Why there are so many cases in America, and not in China?

Who knows how many cases China has. Their government lies all the time and controls the media there. Not hard for them to fudge their numbers.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Easy, ..China didnt have Trump in chatge

No, they have an actual real deal dictator who oppresses his countrymen. Please don't be one of those people who excuses much worse just to bash Trump.

 

[Revoltingest]

Who knows how many cases China has. Their government lies all the time and controls the media there. Not hard for them to fudge their numbers.

@Wu Wei has addressed this disparity between published
numbers & experiences of those living there.

 

[stvdv]

Easy, ..China didnt have Trump in chatge

Yes, this contradicting info on Corona has caused many death, I am sure of that, esp. if I see all the Trumpees marching for Trump. IF your God tells you "no mask" then the sheep Trumpees follow without a doubt. We even have Trumpees here in Holland, they don't believe in Corona danger much

I see your line below messages "I started life with nothing and i still have most of it left." Another interesting one to remember would be "I started life with a pure heart, and i still have most of it left (hopefully)."

 

[Left Coast]

Well maybe stop complaining about deniers and start doing instead. Getting far yet?

Maybe stop advocating disturbingly unethical public health policies and just wear a damn mask and social distance when you go out.

Getting far yet?

 

[stvdv]

Because that's NOT the cause. The cause is a virus that's spread through the air. The virus reproduces itself in the cells of a host, sometimes an animal, in most cases a human, and is spread when they cough, or even breathe out.

Does not explain my point "why so many more death (235 times more) in America and hardly any in China?"
America: 251.268 / 331,727,464 (1 in every 1.320)
China: 4634 / 1,439,323,776 (1 in every 310.600)

 

[stvdv]

Who knows how many cases China has. Their government lies all the time and controls the media there. Not hard for them to fudge their numbers.

YES. That is what I also thought. Worldometer gives even proof of that (number 160.000.000 is too nice to be true; and not even changing)

 

[tytlyf]

Still, Sweden has much less than USA with their easy going, hugging, unmasked approach for 1 year. IF it were a really deadly virus, all Swedes would have been dead by now. BUT maybe the Swedes have a much better immune system, this I can believe, because USA has much more diabetes (10.5% against Sweden 4.8%) and overweight (72% against Sweden 50%) people. Maybe the icy cold weather also improved their immune system; my guess ... US scores high because they score high in overweight and diabetes; as those two are markers for being at risk with corona

America: 251.268 / 331,727,464 (1 in every 1.320)
Sweden: 6164 / 10,122,771 (1 in every 1.642)

The Sweden model is a failure.
The Swedish COVID-19 Response Is a Disaster. It Shouldn’t Be A Model for the Rest of the World

 

[ChristineM]

No, they have an actual real deal dictator who oppresses his countrymen. Please don't be one of those people who excuses much worse just to bash Trump.

I do not excuse worse than trump, however in this situation China seems to have got a handle on things while trump mocked and ridiculed. Even after he became infected.

And did i mention dictator??? No even though Trump would very much like to be.

Next time i suggest you read what you are replying to rather than firing off half cocked

 

[Vinayaka]

Sweden did nothing of all of this, and almost got no death cases. That is strange, isn't it?
Probably they have a naturally better immune system, as it is cold there, your immune system gets stronger.

Sweden is at 609 per million, US is at 758.

As I see it, differences in numbers are as a direct result of entitlement of the individual in the society.

 

[stvdv]

Sweden is at 609 per million, US is at 758.

As I see it, differences in numbers are as a direct result of entitlement of the individual in the society.

I see American average health as the cause, as Americans have double the amount of diabetes and 50% more overweight, both corona markers

 

[Martin]

I see American average health as the cause, as Americans have double the amount of diabetes and 50% more overweight, both corona markers

Those things certainly don't help. Much the same in the UK I think.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Maybe stop advocating disturbingly unethical public health policies and just wear a damn mask and social distance when you go out.

Getting far yet?

I call that a stalemate. Got a solution?

 

[Left Coast]

I call that a stalemate. Got a solution?

I literally just said the solution. Do what public health professionals are telling you to do.