Adam and Eve Origins

[viole]

Adam and Eve are from Genesis.

And Santa is from Sweden

Ciao

- viole

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Adam and Eve are from Genesis.

And Santa is from Sweden

Ciao

- viole

:tsk:

Scandinavian folklore

In the 1840s, a being in Nordic folklore called "Tomte" or "Nisse" started to deliver the Christmas presents in Denmark. The Tomte was portrayed as a short, bearded man dressed in gray clothes and a red hat. This new version of the age-old folkloric creature was inspired by the Santa Claus traditions that were now spreading to Scandinavia. By the end of the 19th century this tradition had also spread to Norway and Sweden, replacing the Yule Goat. The same thing happened in Finland, but there the more human figure retained the Yule Goat name. But even though the tradition of the Yule Goat as a bringer of presents is now all but extinct, a straw goat is still a common Christmas decoration in all of Scandinavia. Iceland has 13 Yule Lads that originate from folklore rather than Christianity and start arriving from the mountains into towns 13 days before 24 December. [wiki]​

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Hej då'

 

[viole]

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Hej då'

Tja

I was tallking about Santa, the person. He lives near Kiruna. Once we ate one of his reindeers. He swftly applied judgement: we did not get any presents that year.

Bummer.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I was tallking about Santa, the person. He lives near Kiruna. Once we ate one of his reindeers. ...

:face palm:

And the poor thing tried desperately to get away!

So sad … so thoughtless!



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[BSM1]

Adam and Eve are from the mesopotamia. Its called the 'cradle of civilisation' and takes in countries such as Iraq, Turkey & Syria

I dont believe they would have had the appearance of black africans. They would have been middle eastern in appearance....from a middle eastern appearance, skin colour can go darker or lighter... so its more likely that Adam and Eve were closer to the middle spectrum of the colour range.

Well, they definitely weren't Irish or they would have suffered from a full-body sunburn. Trust me.

 

[roger1440]

Apparently if you get a DNA test, to trace your national heritage, african appears somewhere for everyone. This is linked with the idea that all lines originate from Africa when all the continents were all joined and one.

This kind of relates to the question of why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? They could have been African, they were not white at the very least. Same with Jesus, he was not born in a white country yet every image I see he is depicted as a white man with golden brown hair.

If Adam and Eve really did exist, where would they have resided?

 

[roger1440]

Adam and Eve are from Genesis.

Yes, they are from the beginning. I would like to add, the beginning can be "with us" if we want it.

 

[outhouse]

Adam and Eve are from Genesis.

Exactly.

A literary creation influenced from Mesopotamian mythology that existed long before Israelites did.


Why do certain theist fail to understand no religion I know has ever been created from nothing, They all were influenced by previous civilizations.

And Israelites are not immune.


We know they started with Canaanite religions and that religion evolved into what we have today, after it evolved into Christianity

 

[outhouse]

Yes, they are from the beginning.

The beginning of mythology?

 

[idav]

Apparently if you get a DNA test, to trace your national heritage, african appears somewhere for everyone. This is linked with the idea that all lines originate from Africa when all the continents were all joined and one.

This kind of relates to the question of why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? They could have been African, they were not white at the very least. Same with Jesus, he was not born in a white country yet every image I see he is depicted as a white man with golden brown hair.

If Adam and Eve really did exist, where would they have resided?

Does seem they got the country right. Thats our origins. Don't know why the artists would never consider origins.

 

[Ingledsva]

Apparently if you get a DNA test, to trace your national heritage, african appears somewhere for everyone. This is linked with the idea that all lines originate from Africa when all the continents were all joined and one.

This kind of relates to the question of why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? They could have been African, they were not white at the very least. Same with Jesus, he was not born in a white country yet every image I see he is depicted as a white man with golden brown hair.

If Adam and Eve really did exist, where would they have resided?

Actually there is no reason to believe the first people were black.


They could have been, - but, - These areas had not yet become hot, - when human types first appeared, - and began migrating, - and skin color, eye color, etc., was determined over time by the climate in the areas people "stayed" or "moved" to.


They actually started to migrate when the climate changed, and it started to get hotter.


In basic - Hot countries have darker sin and eyes to protect from the sun. Northern people have lighter skin and eyes to absorb more sunlight.



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[outhouse]

Actually there is no reason to believe the first people were black.

While your statement makes perfect sense.

What date you pick, and say that is when a species was called human, would first have to be defined.



I would have to think due to previous primates skin color, the first Homo Sapiens were black skinned.

I dont think we had caucasion Homo Erectus, and after that it becomes a bit of a mystery with Neaderthal being caucasion.

 

[Ingledsva]

Actually there is no reason to believe the first people were black.

While your statement makes perfect sense.

What date you pick, and say that is when a species was called human, would first have to be defined.



I would have to think due to previous primates skin color, the first Homo Sapiens were black skinned.

I dont think we had caucasion Homo Erectus, and after that it becomes a bit of a mystery with Neaderthal being caucasion.

"Chimpanzees have pale skin and are born with pale faces that tan as they grow older. So the prototype hominid too probably had fair skin under dark hair, said Dr. Nina Jablonski, an expert on the evolution of skin color at the California Academy of Sciences. ''It was only later that we lost our hair and at the same time evolved an evenly dark pigmentation,'' she said.


(Sources by Dr. Mark Pagel and Dr. Walter Bodmer, The Royal Society)


Personally I think the first humans were in-between colored, - and got darker, or lighter, depending on choice of location.



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[Thief]

The beginning of mythology?

No...the beginning of Man as altered in Genesis Chapter Two.

Someone had to be first.

 

[outhouse]

"Chimpanzees have pale skin and are born with pale faces that tan as they grow older. So the prototype hominid too probably had fair skin under dark hair, said Dr. Nina Jablonski, an expert on the evolution of skin color at the California Academy of Sciences. ''It was only later that we lost our hair and at the same time evolved an evenly dark pigmentation,'' she said.


(Sources by Dr. Mark Pagel and Dr. Walter Bodmer, The Royal Society)


Personally I think the first humans were in-between colored, - and got darker, or lighter, depending on choice of location.



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Thanks for the correction.

How well is this accepted in the scientific communities? Is it controversial at all?

 

[outhouse]

Personally I think the first humans were in-between colored, - and got darker, or lighter, depending on choice of location.



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Here is one of her articles.

According to her, early man was indeed dark skinned when we lost out hair previous to "Homo"

So as I stated, "WHEN" we define human as first existing, can this question be answered correctly.

I like how she negates color competely other then skin protection, and I like what she did with the class in China. The kids were freaked out in class, but once the skin was off hey carried on normal. This opened her eyes.

http://faculty.washington.edu/charles/562_f2011/Additional Readings/Jablonski 2000.pdf

The evolution
of a naked, darkly pigmented integument occurred early in the
evolution of the genus​

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Homo. A dark epidermis protected sweat
glands from UV-induced injury, thus insuring the integrity of somatic​

thermoregulation.

 

[Ingledsva]

Here is one of her articles.

According to her, early man was indeed dark skinned when we lost out hair previous to "Homo"

So as I stated, "WHEN" we define human as first existing, can this question be answered correctly.

I like how she negates color competely other then skin protection, and I like what she did with the class in China. The kids were freaked out in class, but once the skin was off hey carried on normal. This opened her eyes.

http://faculty.washington.edu/charles/562_f2011/Additional Readings/Jablonski 2000.pdf

The evolution
of a naked, darkly pigmented integument occurred early in the
evolution of the genus​

​

​

​

Homo. A dark epidermis protected sweat
glands from UV-induced injury, thus insuring the integrity of somatic​

thermoregulation.

"The earliest members of the hominid lineage probably had a mostly
unpigmented or lightly pigmented integument covered with dark
black hair, similar to that of the modern chimpanzee. The evolution
of a naked, darkly pigmented integument occurred early in the
evolution of the genus Homo." From the article.


We were probably in between as I said - and as the article confirms - changed darker or lighter by location and climate.


A good read by the way. I saved it.


How we became what we are is very interesting.


My ancestors lost a LOT of pigment. LOL! I'm pretty much see-through.



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[s2a]

*rolls eyes*

Just one follow-up.

Since when...ever...does "faith" have ANYTHING to do with scientific understandings of anything?

If you envision a white Jesus, white Adam and Eve with obvious belly-buttons, or whatever...does it even matter or effect your "faith" even one whit?

If so...how so?

If not possible why then accept the mythology perpetuated in Westernized paintings?

Just curious...only a little...

 

[Ingledsva]

*rolls eyes*

Just one follow-up.

Since when...ever...does "faith" have ANYTHING to do with scientific understandings of anything?

If you envision a white Jesus, white Adam and Eve with obvious belly-buttons, or whatever...does it even matter or effect your "faith" even one whit?

If so...how so?

If not possible why then accept the mythology perpetuated in Westernized paintings?

Just curious...only a little...

It is kind of funny isn't it. LOL!


An old white man with a huge beard sitting in the clouds.


Where did that one come from?


If you travel around the world you will see depictions of Jesus in most hues, including black.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dep...4Bg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1067&bih=527#imgdii=_

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[Smart_Guy]

Dunno, but I don't think they were Saudis!