By you saying "we," I'm assuming that you did not meant every human being, because apparently, the magic didn't vanish for some.
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Adam and Eve
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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True. Some remain uneducated, delusional or uninterested in facts, and happy to embrace whatever beliefs or values integrate them into their chosen status communities.
What level of expertise do you have that is superior to experts in biology? If you have no expertise than why should i value your opinion over the consensus of experts?
This is not a fact, nor based on facts, much is even contrary to fact, so why have you decided to believe it?
If that would really be magic, and not just God’s power, that would also happen, if I would say "Let there be light, and there was light".
Actually, it means only that I am not saying “the universe coming from God is a natural occurrence”. I was not saying that. Why do you need to make weird interpretations?
Please tell, what is the good reason to believe it?
Please tell what are the spells and why don’t they work, if we use them?
Subduction Zone
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It doesn't matter who or what said it that is still a magical incantation.
Subduction Zone
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Because of the repeated sorting that can be observed occurring today. The layers have fine grained winter layers and coarser summer layers.
In other words it was a testable observation that was confirmed.
Subduction Zone
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I already explained one. And they don't work because they never did. Magic is make believe.
Huh?
God's power? You're presupposing God.
A folk tale or fantasy world might seem internally consistent, but it's fundamentally baseless. The premises it's founded on are wrong.
Lot's of science fiction novels, for example, make perfect sense -- if you accept the underlying premises. Theists: question your premises, not the story based on them.
Why assume it has always happened the same way? Who has observed it happen just like that always? Sorry, I don’t believe we really have knowledge that it has happened that way even 10 years.
Subduction Zone
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It is not an assumption. It is a conclusion. It happened the same last year, the year before that, in fact varves have been understood for quite some time. If you want to claim that physics was different in the past the burden of proof is upon you. Do you seriously believe that the Earth has not always spun on its axis? That it has not always rotated around the Sun? When you want to say "things were different" you need to show when they were different and why.
You expect the laws of physics to change capriciously. You expect rocks to float into the air, water to explode and burn, the seasons to disappear or Earth to float off into extrastellar space?
The laws and constants of physics show no indication of having ever altered since the beginning of the universe. What evidence do you have that they have?
It is interesting how differently some people think. I was not meaning that laws of physics need to change. All the layers are a result of water carrying them. And if every year would look the same, it would mean that every year there is the same amount of erosion and same amount of water and similar layer. But, there is no reason to believe winters and summers, rain and sun are always the same. It is possible that there have been years with more rains and years with less rains. The layers only tell about how many times there has been coming certain sediments to form the layers. There is no way to know are they really years.
Subduction Zone
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We know how water works. And as a result we do know that they are years. You are trying to claim that physics changed.
One thing to remember, just because you do not understand something does not mean that others do not understand.