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Adam's and Eve's ?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Who told you that?
Evidence told me that. Why do science deniers always try to make things personal?

Meanwhile you have extremely odd beliefs that you cannot support at all. You have to say "Because I say so" . Scientists always will state "Because the evidence says so".
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The theory of everything doesn't require made up stuff .
Correct. Which is why I gave you facts, not stuff I made up..
Dinosaurs weren't very sentient and kept eating the ''humans'' and the chickens .
Humans and chickens didn't exist in the time of the dinosaurs. Chickens evolved FROM Dinosaurs, but came later in history.
It wasn't very productive in our research so we had to eliminate the Dinosaurs so your sentience could evolve .
Please define what you mean by sentience. Usually when people say sentience, they mean the ability to experience feelings and sensations, and to have some cognitive abilities. Thus, a great many creatures are sentient, including mammals. But that is not the only understanding of "sentient," which is why I need to know exactly what you specifically mean.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Evidence told me that. Why do science deniers always try to make things personal?

Meanwhile you have extremely odd beliefs that you cannot support at all. You have to say "Because I say so" . Scientists always will state "Because the evidence says so".
What evidence ? Are you referring to that no human trace was found in the periodic layers of the Earth ?

Well of course not because the Dinosaurs ate the humans .

My version is equal bs to yours .

Lets be honest we are talking subjective stuff with this conversation .
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What evidence ? Are you referring to that no human trace was found in the periodic layers of the Earth ?

Well of course not because the Dinosaurs ate the humans .

My version is equal bs to yours .

Lets be honest we are talking subjective stuff with this conversation .
No, you do not have a version.

It has been fun, but it is very late for me.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
No, you do not have a version.

It has been fun, but it is very late for me.
When you are awake again and online here is some science for you ,do I get my noble prize now for discovering gravity-B ?

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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I believe I do not deny science; I just see it in perspective.
Fine if you have sufficient knowledge and the capabilities to understand much of science (do you have this?) - given that few of us are experts in any one field let alone in so many. But we should be more prepared to accept consensus views of scientists (reflecting science), especially as to contradicting anything proposed as being truthful in religious textual material when such just doesn't make much sense.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Show me one example where chemistry or physics can create complex biological structures with pre-ordered form design ?
Evolution makes no claim at all to produce "pre-ordered form design". Where on earth did you get that notion?
I know you can't therefore a creator is a must because I don't believe in magic either.
If you don't believe in magic, that's excellent. You'll therefore be able to tell us the technique by which God made the universe and created Adam and Eve from dust as the folktale says. And I've always wondered what exactly happened when God said "Let there be light!" that caused the electromagnetic spectrum to come into existence.

I look forward to your illuminating descriptions. Bring it on!
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Do you really think your word salad is going to bring me up again when i Iet you in my mind to study you ?

Is swift the one who claims to be "tailor made" by "tailors too swift to see" that the tailers aren't just you and me but the earth, the moons, and the galaxies. World salad is typically flavorful, but there are times when they consist of gaseous elements that tend to nauseate. If you're not working "with" Acme you're not working "for", and most of us do, even when the checks are never signed by the academy itself. Observation is never so clearly defined that we should claim a status of knowing more than others who have claimed a known, so ...

without argument I left this talk last with a return to it with what I perceive to be hostile tact. On that note I will bid you adieu. I have better things to argue than pointless points made by you.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
No, that is ignorant humor at best.

You forgot the challenge. You were supposed to put away your fear so that you can learn.BUt

But I have learnt already, that you are a narcissistic and not a great teacher. Your arrogance is quite hilarious for somebody with outdated science .
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Evolution makes no claim at all to produce "pre-ordered form design". Where on earth did you get that notion?

It isn't an idea, it is a necessity for the ''automatic cloning process'' . Without this design , babies would not look like babies , they'd be more of a ''splodge''
If you don't believe in magic, that's excellent. You'll therefore be able to tell us the technique by which God made the universe
The creator didn't make the Universe , the creator was actually created ''themselves'' . The creator just creates life wherever the creator finds a suitable planet .
and created Adam and Eve from dust as the folktale says.
A folk tale indeed , the creator creates Adam's and Eve's , multiples , to ensure a successful planet transition .
And I've always wondered what exactly happened when God said "Let there be light!" that caused the electromagnetic spectrum to come into existence.

I look forward to your illuminating descriptions. Bring it on!
The creator didn't actually say that , that is the voice of the writer of the bible .
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Well of course not because the Dinosaurs ate the humans .
Millions of years passed after the Dinos before there were humans.

And before you bring up the Paluxy footprints, read on to how creationists have even resorted to fraud:

According to many creationists, human footprints and dinosaur footprints are found side by side in the Cretaceous limestone of the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas. This is the "find" most frequently stressed in creationist literature, so it will be useful to cover it in some detail.

To correctly analyze these tracks, it is first necessary to understand a few facts about the Paluxy River site. Most of the dinosaur prints that have been found there are genuine. Many show clear, large ridges of mud squished up all around the footprint. Scientists confirm that during Cretaceous times the withdrawing sea left a swampy area in which dinosaurs left tracks in the sediment. Under the sun, these tracks were baked solid in the mud. Flooding rivers later buried the tracks under more sediments.

The Paluxy River today is a fast-flowing river which sometimes dries up totally and at other times floods strongly enough to carry downstream four-ton slabs of limestone. When the river dries up, prehistoric dinosaur tracks can become exposed to view, such as those Roland T. Bird excavated and removed to the American Museum of Natural History in the 1930s. In times of flooding, the river dumps limestone slabs and debris on top of previously exposed prints. According to Beierle (1977), this is why John Green and Dr. Jack Walper had to reexcavate some "human footprints" in 1976, which had been excavated only a few
years earlier for the creationist film, Footprints in Stone.

Among the prints that have been removed from this site are half a dozen detailed humanlike footprints and two large "saber-tooth cat tracks." These are frequently mentioned in creationist works. However, upon later examination, they have all turned out to be probable or actual hoaxes. Flood geologist Clifford Burdick has described these prints, and Beierle (1974, 1977) and Whitcomb and Morris show pictures of them in order to prove that humans and dinosaurs lived together at the same time. Burdick owns one "man track" and one "cat track"; the rest have been sent to the museum of Columbia Union College in Takoma Park, Maryland. Burdick's prints could easily have been carved, and those at Columbia Union College definitely were.

Burdick's prints have been cross-sectioned, and the results are ambiguous. John D. Morris claims that these cross sections prove that the prints are genuine. He reasons that, if the tracks were carvings, they would be scooped out and would slice across horizontal strata. He claims that the cross sections show that the laminations of the rock follow the contours of the print. However, Seventh-day Adventist geologist Berney Neufeld offers a different version:


Clifford Burdick, a consulting geologist from Tucson, Arizona, has a manlike track and a catlike track. Both have been sectioned and the evidence is equivocal. Some cross sections have a slight indication of carving; others of conformation. The difficulty with these tracks is that they are in blocks of limestone whose pattern is more mottled than layered.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It isn't an idea, it is a necessity for the ''automatic cloning process'' . Without this design , babies would not look like babies , they'd be more of a ''splodge''
Wow! You really and truly have no idea what evolution is about. Not just evolution, but the basics of biology.
The creator didn't make the Universe , the creator was actually created ''themselves'' . The creator just creates life wherever the creator finds a suitable planet .
And you know this how, exactly?
The creator didn't actually say that , that is the voice of the writer of the bible.
But according to you, the creator created the electromagnetic spectrum.

How exactly did the creator do that? What was the process?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It isn't an idea, it is a necessity for the ''automatic cloning process'' . Without this design , babies would not look like babies , they'd be more of a ''splodge''
What the heck are you talking about? What "automatic cloning process" do you think is making babies? And what would it have to do with evolution?
The creator didn't make the Universe , the creator was actually created ''themselves'' . The creator just creates life wherever the creator finds a suitable planet .
What????
A folk tale indeed , the creator creates Adam's and Eve's , multiples ,
Adam and Eve are not historical people
to ensure a successful planet transition .
What?????
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
But I have learnt already, that you are a narcissistic and not a great teacher. Your arrogance is quite hilarious for somebody with outdated science .
Oh please, you have no idea what is and what is not science. Give me a break. You are projecting massively here. You came in spewing nonsense and demonstrating that you do not understand logical fallacies. You mimic other people and think that you are doing the same thing that they are but better, unfortunately since you have no understanding of basic concepts you can only get angry when you are corrected.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What the heck are you talking about? What "automatic cloning process" do you think is making babies? And what would it have to do with evolution?

What????

Adam and Eve are not historical people

What?????
It appears that he is even worse than a biblical literalist. He has invented his own version of the Adam and Eve myth and even he cannot make heads nor tails of it.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It appears that he is even worse than a biblical literalist. He has invented his own version of the Adam and Eve myth and even he cannot make heads nor tails of it.
I can't make heads or tails of anything he is saying. He doesn't know the basics of evolution. The religious stuff he is saying appears totally off the wall. I really am clueless how to even begin replying to him.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I can't make heads or tails of anything he is saying. He doesn't know the basics of evolution. The religious stuff he is saying appears totally off the wall. I really am clueless how to even begin replying to him.
He sounds very confused at times. He was making an odd reference earlier as if everyone should know about it. It turns out he was talking about a conversation on another forum. I never even asked the name. I know that I had never seen it because currently this is the only forum that I post on, or read for that matter.
 
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