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Adam's and Eve's ?

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
The chicken ''fetus'' and the egg shell came at the same time. The creator created chickens in the form of clone sacks , the shell being the sack .
Same time seems logical. It's like circular, ongoing, and ever evolving. It boggles my mind. Eggs are released on a plant in the water, they hatch, develop into what they become, then that organism leaves the water to become something quite different than before hatching for the second time. They live twice like frogs. I guess humans do also. I wonder how many cycles there are?

What we don't see.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Same time seems logical. It's like circular, ongoing, and ever evolving. It boggles my mind. Eggs are released on a plant in the water, they hatch, develop into what they become, then that organism leaves the water to become something quite different than before hatching for the second time. They live twice like frogs. I guess humans do also. I wonder how many cycles there are?

What we don't see.
Every animal including insects have specific coding that creates form and the animals or insects have purposes throughout the universe . If you think life began on Earth , you are seriously mistaken . If you think the creator bothered or can create planets , you are seriously mistaken . The creator only creates life forms .
Throughout the Universe you can see stars etc but you don't see the planets or the planets surface too well if at all . On these planets is other human species but they don't look like you or me . However they are human in nature , they communicate and are civil to each other . They create houses etc just like us .
The universe is infinite and the creators design is limitless because any topology can fit within a 3 dimensional space .
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Every animal including insects have specific coding that creates form and the animals or insects have purposes throughout the universe . If you think life began on Earth , you are seriously mistaken . If you think the creator bothered or can create planets , you are seriously mistaken . The creator only creates life forms .
Throughout the Universe you can see stars etc but you don't see the planets or the planets surface too well if at all . On these planets is other human species but they don't look like you or me . However they are human in nature , they communicate and are civil to each other . They create houses etc just like us .
The universe is infinite and the creators design is limitless because any topology can fit within a 3 dimensional space .

I think we came from Saturn on an asteroid, which began our more evolved coding. It's my hypothetical, so I won't close the door in your face in disbelief.

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure you're at least partly right.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Nope. You have not even defined "number 16".
Number 16 is the Somalis that work for the church .

I will help you with the Exovac - An external volume of space that has a less Eigenstate than an internal volume of space .

Note a man made vacuum although internal space is relatively an Exovac .
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
I think we came from Saturn on an asteroid, which began our more evolved coding. It's my hypothetical, so I won't close the door in your face in disbelief.

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure you're at least partly right.
An interesting hypothesis but logically flawed because even if the DNA had reached earth , the survival rate of an infant without assistant would be zero . Additionally humans don't just spontaneously appear from DNA or we'd observe that ,
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
An interesting hypothesis but logically flawed because even if the DNA had reached earth , the survival rate of an infant without assistant would be zero . Additionally humans don't just spontaneously appear from DNA or we'd observe that ,

I'm an evolutionist. We live in a womb at the moment within our atmosphere. We were birthed from a different type of womb, and before this we were hatched from an egg inside it, but not until impact occurred and cohesion took place. This began a very quick series of events that calmed as we gradually became a fetus. In that form, after birth, we were extremely vulnerable, and you are correct, we required parental assistance even then. I will presume this will always be the case in some way or another, no matter how adept we may think we are in the womb we now reside in.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
I'm an evolutionist. We live in a womb at the moment within our atmosphere. We were birthed from a different type of womb, and before this we were hatched from an egg inside it, but not until impact occurred and cohesion took place. This began a very quick series of events that calmed as we gradually became a fetus. In that form, after birth, we were extremely vulnerable, and you are correct, we required parental assistance even then. I will presume this will always be the case in some way or another, no matter how adept we may think we are in the womb we now reside in.
Do you really think your word salad is going to bring me up again when i Iet you in my mind to study you ?
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
I think we came from Saturn on an asteroid, which began our more evolved coding. It's my hypothetical, so I won't close the door in your face in disbelief.

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure you're at least partly right.

By asteroid do you mean a primitive moon that was pulled away from Saturn as it was forming into a gas giant?

Interestingly, Jupiter was the first planet formed in our solar system, followed closely by Saturn. The four “rocky” planets between the Sun and the gas giants were essentially pulled, pushed, squeezed, and formed into the shape and position they are in now by their gravitational forces.

So parts of Saturn could have indeed collided with Earth at some point, but it would have been driven there by the Sun and Jupiter, perhaps “cooking” water, methane, ammonia, phosphorus (as discovered on Enceladus) and hydrogen sulfide present on the asteroid into DNA along the way.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Interestingly, Jupiter was the first planet formed in our solar system, followed closely by Saturn.
Did you get that from a Christmas cracker ? You are talking out of your backside , none of us know what planet formed first because simply none of us were around .
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Every animal including insects have specific coding that creates form and the animals or insects have purposes throughout the universe . If you think life began on Earth , you are seriously mistaken . If you think the creator bothered or can create planets , you are seriously mistaken . The creator only creates life forms .
Throughout the Universe you can see stars etc but you don't see the planets or the planets surface too well if at all . On these planets is other human species but they don't look like you or me . However they are human in nature , they communicate and are civil to each other . They create houses etc just like us .
The universe is infinite and the creators design is limitless because any topology can fit within a 3 dimensional space .
Oh my. No, you are conflating function and purpose. Nor does there appear to be any evidence for a "creator". But if you have some we would love to hear it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I've supported my claims many times because we have this thing called axioms .

No, you have not. And I doubt if you even know what an axiom is and you definitely can not find a valid one.
Tell you what , you think you are so smart , tell me about the Exovac I mentioned on the other forum ?

What "other forum"? I do not debate on other forums and I really do not care about them.
You describe my science to me , lets see if your learnt anything !
I do not have to describe "your" science to you. That is your personal delusion. I can help you with the scientific method and the concept of scientific evidence.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Do you have the answer to which came first?

The chicken or the egg. Your puzzle made me think the egg may have come first due to the water and land differences between wombs, I mean environments. Nymphs and tadpole's man...

Define the terms that you want to use and we may be able to. Odds are that the egg came before the chicken because eggs have existed for many millions of years. Chickens not so much.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Did you get that from a Christmas cracker ? You are talking out of your backside , none of us know what planet formed first because simply none of us were around .
Ah, then who saw a God create the universe? I guess your interpretation of Genesis can be rejected, too.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
I'm an evolutionist. We live in a womb at the moment within our atmosphere. We were birthed from a different type of womb, and before this we were hatched from an egg inside it, but not until impact occurred and cohesion took place. This began a very quick series of events that calmed as we gradually became a fetus.

I believe our first womb was water, perhaps cooling and “fixing” our RNA and other cell building blocks upon asteroid beds in the ocean.

The second womb was sand, specifically radioactive silica undergoing beta decay, changing RNA into DNA within a calcium carbonate coating, creating eggs.

Once life started to live on land within an atmospheric womb, the changes became more “lateral” and diverse.


In that form, after birth, we were extremely vulnerable, and you are correct, we required parental assistance even then. I will presume this will always be the case in some way or another, no matter how adept we may think we are in the womb we now reside in.

Yes. Survival is the evolution of existence.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The logical explanation of humans is a creator , even if this enters cloning theory . For humans to exist , when they were first created , there is a need and a must for isolation and assistance .
The technical term for 'creator' in this context is 'mother'.
 
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