Shadow Wolf
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Then why is god, specifically the Christian God, mentioned frequently throughout Mein Kampf and on a regular basis in his speeches?
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Adios europe, hello Islam!?
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On the off chance that a handful of terrorist might kill or injure a few hundred people over the course of decades you would willingly consign tens of thousands to misery, starvation, and death. It's sick.
Jeremy Taylor
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You mean in a still generally Christian Germany Hitler mentioned God in his speeches? Hardy evidence of devotion. All the evidence of his personal views, at least from the late 1930s onwards, shows little time for Christianity, or religion in general. Goebbels's diaries, Speer's memoirs, and what is known as Hitler's Table-Talk, edited by Bormann, all show contempt for Christianity and even support for the notion science would replace religion. Goebbels even wrote that Hitler hated Christianity. Hitler even had contempt for Himmler and his occult and neo-pagan beliefs.
At first the Nazis thought they would create a Nazi Christianity, although this was deeply heretical and combined Christianity with nationalist and racialistic Aryan beliefs. But when this floundered, by around 1936, they seem to have given up on Christianity completely.
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vaguelyhumanoid
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and what do we label those who shout "kill all jews" racist? or does it not apply to them. I'm yet to hear about a Muslim be arrested for shouting white trash or blow up britain but if we were to shout the same in the streets about an islamic country guess what would happen.. go on, guess
"Kill all Jews" is not a fundamental doctrine of Islam, try again.
Like I said, people fleeing from violent fundamentalists are unlikely to be violent fundamentalists themselves.
have you watched the news recently? in Britain some ISIS terrorists arrested plotting to plant bombs to try kill the queen on saturday? that's just 2 terrorists, there's believed to be many more.. it's going to be far more than a few hundred over decades. It's you or them. Perhaps it takes a bomb exploding in a local school to wake some people up.How much does it take before you quit defending them? we cant solve their problems.. it's that simple.. we cant do it.
Oh and it's just as sick for you to think it's ok for suicide bombers to kill a few hunred people in your own country.
I had to come back to answer this
illykitty
RF's pet cat
Thinking of a few terrorists potentially sneaking in and potentially blowing up a shopping mall over the lives of thousands of innocents paint a portrait that those thousands of humans are not worth the risk of death/injury to a few westerners. Oh and that shopping mall, of course.
Hilter not Christian !!!
Evidences say He was Christain , the claims said the otherwise .
I can say " he was Christain , but his bad deeds not belong to Christianity ."
EDITED : I mean historic evidences
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What the guarantee that WW3 would not happaned ?
I mean the Westerne start war against each other ?
last time WWII casualty was moren than 60 millions .
What guarantee that extremists in West would not take the same way of extremist in Muslim countries ?
I mean the Westerne start war against each other ?
last time WWII casualty was moren than 60 millions .
What guarantee that extremists in West would not take the same way of extremist in Muslim countries ?
Jeremy Taylor
Active Member
What do you mean? He was baptised a Catholic and brought up as one. But his adult life he showed real interest in Christianity, or religion in general, except for a brief attempt to co-opt German Christianity. His confidents, Speer, Goebbels, and Bormann relate his dismissal and contempt for Christianity. Goebbels even wrote that Hitler hated Christianity.
claim is much but ,
there are many evidences videos and from his book too :
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/Catholic/Hitlersfaith-1.html
Jeremy Taylor
Active Member
Hitler spoke of God is his work and his speeches, but this was simply perfunctory talk, the platitudes of the day. It shows no devotion or real importance to the belief.
The evidence, at least of the last 5-10 years of his life, is strong. Are you saying his closest confidants - Speer, Bormann, Goebbels - were mistaken or lying?
The evidence, at least of the last 5-10 years of his life, is strong. Are you saying his closest confidants - Speer, Bormann, Goebbels - were mistaken or lying?
Westernaphopia, in the west. British woman beat up by a gang of Asians *caugh* Muslims *caugh* for drinking.
Don't try all that "we are the victims" bs, it doesn't fly. Let me know if you want to post more pictures.
they problly lying , to avoid their faith from accusation (since he spoke by name of Christianity )
the importand think ,everyone speak for him-self by facts . so when others make up claims that's don't change origin facts .
Shadow Wolf
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The fact remains, they were still motivated by Christian ideology. ISIS is guilty of many sins that are strictly forbidden in Islam, but they are still Muslims, and few people are making excuses for them or pointing out that if their god exists, they are not going to make to the Paradise they seek.
Jeremy Taylor
Active Member
How does the fact remain? Who are you talking about and what motivation? I agree ISIS is not representative of Islam, but its relationship to Islam is completely different to the Nazi relationship to Christianity. The latter was far less direct. Nazism wasn't even a perversion of Christianity. Christianity would have indirectly fed into Nazism, as it was an important part of German culture and history. But Nazism didn't have direct roots in Christianity. Indeed, it didn't have many more roots in Christianity than Marxism did.
I don't believe that any of them were Christians. Also, even if they were, you are making completely unsupported conjecture.
maybe i get fooled by Media .Westernaphopia, in the west. British woman beat up by a gang of Asians *caugh* Muslims *caugh* for drinking.
Don't try all that "we are the victims" bs, it doesn't fly. Let me know if you want to post more pictures.
anyway that's does not deny that their is islamophopia in West , and harassement against Muslims .
believe what you want , that's does not change the facts .
Jeremy Taylor
Active Member
What facts? It is you dismissing the facts out of hand, in favour of any sort of conjecture you can find.
illykitty
RF's pet cat
There is indeed harassment against Muslims but there were many incidents of Muslims imposing their rules on British people in the UK. Some went as far as declaring a "Sharia zone" when it's not allowed. Why don't these people move to Muslim countries if they're not happy with the laws here? Instead they hurt non-Muslim people because of things that are considered haram in Islam, like drinking or how women are dressed. They don't respect the laws in this country.
But with honesty, I posted this to show you that the picture isn't black and white. Yes there is Islamophobia but there's also some bad Muslims too. The blame game isn't going to get us anywhere and we need a balanced view. Why not just say there are bad humans in every society and try to find solutions instead of pointing the finger at each other? That would be a lot more useful. Can't we live in peace even if we have different beliefs?