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After death scenarios

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
My own image for when death happens is I will "wake up" in a dimly lit cave or grotto and there next to me with be my beloved MaXx who died about 20 years ago.

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He licks my face a bit in greeting, then I rouse myself and we walk up to an opening in a wall nearby and look out over a lush green field full of wild flowers which we walk through to get to a small hill a short distance away. There we sit and watch the sun come up in a way that neither of us will ever forget.

My wish is to be fully conscious when the event occurs and the part described above will be like that of a scene change in a play. It's when the sun comes up that the fun will really begin.
@George-ananda
That's very beautiful and touching. I really want something like that. It would be better than anything I've had in this life. :(
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
You can't, that dog loves you now.



You don't care how Game of Thrones ends? Come on man.
I know you're trying to be kind and to talk me out of it, but it's pretty much past that point. I don't really have any other options. I'm going to be homeless by the 2nd and I'll lose my pets and my belongings, anyway. I can't take it anymore.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Thank you for the “likes” to my country and people.
But, what makes you think that the Greeks (and almost all ancient civilizations, for that matter) got it wrong about what happens to the soul after death?
Because the Bible says so?
What if the Bible is wrong and the Jews understood that at some point and therefore started embracing the older belief about the soul?
I don’t see the connection of this passage with near death experiences. Not even close, actually. Care to elaborate?
Adam’s body was made of earth and to earth it would return. True.
…But what about the “breath of God” that was blown in him in Gen. 2:7…? Where did that come from? Was it not from God? Isn’t it, therefore, to return to God?
That should trigger some thought for you: sleep is a very much “alive” state from where I see it. There is dreaming in sleep. And dreams can be very very vivid.
…But anyway, we are soooooo much off topic! My original question was what you fear could happen after death, no matter what religion teaches.
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But, how can one separate belief about death from what religion teaches?
There could be No fear happening after death because the dead know nothing according to Ecclesiastes 9:5.
The dead do Not praise God according to Psalms 115:17
Thoughts perish at death according to Psalms 146:4
Jesus likened the dead to being asleep at John 11:12-14. Since the dead know nothing, and have No thoughts, and do Not praise God then Jesus was connecting death to 'deep' sleep.
Deep dreamless sleep when we are Not aware of the passing of time until we awaken in the morning. Daniel looked forward to that future awakening - Daniel 12:2; Daniel 12:13
So, 'yes' because the Bible says so. I am merely posting what the Bible really teaches about the unconscious condition of the dead until the dead are resurrected back to life again.
The 'older belief' about the soul goes back and can be traced back to ancient Babylon.
As those ancient people migrated out of ancient Babylon they took with them their religious ideas and practices, and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. That is why we see so many similar overlapping religious teachings spread throughout the world.
Yes, one could say the ' breath of life ' from God returns to God. Returns until Resurrection Day, or Jesus coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth.
That is when ' enemy death ' will be No more according to 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8. The resurrected will breathe again.
Just as a foreclosed house does Not go, or move anywhere, but ' returns ' to the owner, our life's breath, our life's spirit , ' returns to God til Resurrection Day - Revelation 1:18
That is why the ' future tense ' is used at Acts of the Apostles 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection......
So, nothing to fear about death's temporary deep-sleeping state because the dead are freed or acquitted from their sins according to Romans 6:7
A person that is freed or acquitted from sin is like a governor who pardons a person so the crime charges do Not stick.
Jesus can pardon a person so the sin charges do Not stick. Being acquitted or pardoned means one can Not be tried a second time and punished again.
Since 'death' is the ' punishment ' price tag that sin pays according to Romans 6:23, then to be punished after death would be ' double jeopardy '.
There was No double jeopardy for Adam, and there is No further punishment for anyone else after death, but there can be the 'reward' of being resurrected back to life again.
Resurrected back to life again as beloved Timothy who had a Greek father - Acts of the Apostles 16:1-3 - looked forward.
And including the many honorable Greek women of Acts of the Apostles 17:11-12.
Even Jesus, who has the resurrection power, is given a Greek name at Revelation 9:11 B.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Is it possible for you to stop your damn preaching for one second? This isn't a religious discussion and proselytizing against the forum rules. Stop it. It's highly annoying and offensive.

Please St. Frankenstein, don't read my posts any more since you find them offensive.
I am merely posting what the Bible really teaches, and I can't do that without making references to what I am posting.
If I say something without a reference to what I am saying, then how would anyone know where that thought comes from.
 

Spideymon77

A Smiling Empty Soul
I don't fear death. I see it as a time of passing, time for me to go. I assume that after death, I will live in eternal darkness. I like to think of it as a dreamless sleep. You know those nights you have where there is no dreams just darkness. No sound, no thought, no feeling, just nothing. That's what I believe will happen to me after I die.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't fear death. I see it as a time of passing, time for me to go. I assume that after death, I will live in eternal darkness. I like to think of it as a dreamless sleep. You know those nights you have where there is no dreams just darkness. No sound, no thought, no feeling, just nothing. That's what I believe will happen to me after I die.

According to Scripture you are right, except according to Scripture, the dreamless darkness is Not eternal because Jesus has the keys to unlock death for us - Revelation 1:18
Unlock death's deep sleep starting with Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth when enemy death will be No more ever again. - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
 

michael soh

New Member
Death doesn't frighten me, at all. As my age advances I'm far more concerned about a long and painful experience prior to death.

A suggestion: Why not work on getting younger and be active in God's work. You will be so active in enjoying His work that you wont want to leave this world. (John 17:15,20 This is what Jesus prayed for us all).

His field is plenty but His workers are few. He wont be a task master and a miser. He will reward us handsomely. He will restore our strength and youth. He paid a hefty
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ransom to give us this in this world.
 

michael soh

New Member
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According to Scripture you are right, except according to Scripture, the dreamless darkness is Not eternal because Jesus has the keys to unlock death for us - Revelation 1:18
Unlock death's deep sleep starting with Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth when enemy death will be No more ever again. - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
Jesus did fear death. He sweat blood.

Jesus’ anguish is so great in Mar 14:34. He is in total distress, grief, sorrow, anxiety, torment to suffering. We know this for sure as He sweat great drops of blood (Luke 22:44). Yes, Jesus indeed went thru' the fear of death. He went through this horrible moments just before He is captured by the temple guards. But before this horrible experience, He knew He will come out victorious. He confidently tells His disciples in Mat 14;28 “ … after I am brought back to life, I will go to Galilee ahead of you.” And in John 2:19 He throws a hold challenge “Tear down this temple [His Body], and I’ll rebuild it in three days.”

No matter how brave we are in facing death, we will have our moments of doubts. Hey! Jesus was in deep distress before His death. Would we be any different facing our own death?

Good news, Jesus took on flesh and blood to be like us. He did this so that by dying he would destroy the one who had power over death (Heb 2:14). In doing so He already freed us all who were once slaved with our lives because we were afraid of dying (Heb 2:14).

Jesus died for us. We no longer have to die for our sins anymore. It is adequately paid by Jesus. He went thru’ the fear part that we do not have to go thru’ it anymore. We no longer have to fear, because truly there is no more death in our path.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I don't fear death. I see it as a time of passing, time for me to go. I assume that after death, I will live in eternal darkness. I like to think of it as a dreamless sleep. You know those nights you have where there is no dreams just darkness. No sound, no thought, no feeling, just nothing. That's what I believe will happen to me after I die.

Sounds like you mean oblivion. However, even in oblivion there has to be opposites such as Oblivion-Not Oblivion. A better true death scenario, IMHO, would be the cessation of opposites.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Jesus did fear death. He sweat blood.
Jesus’ anguish is so great in Mar 14:34. He is in total distress, grief, sorrow, anxiety, torment to suffering. We know this for sure as He sweat great drops of blood (Luke 22:44). Yes, Jesus indeed went thru' the fear of death. He went through this horrible moments just before He is captured by the temple guards. But before this horrible experience, He knew He will come out victorious. He confidently tells His disciples in Mat 14;28 “ … after I am brought back to life, I will go to Galilee ahead of you.” And in John 2:19 He throws a hold challenge “Tear down this temple [His Body], and I’ll rebuild it in three days.
No matter how brave we are in facing death, we will have our moments of doubts. Hey! Jesus was in deep distress before His death. Would we be any different facing our own death?
Good news, Jesus took on flesh and blood to be like us. He did this so that by dying he would destroy the one who had power over death (Heb 2:14). In doing so He already freed us all who were once slaved with our lives because we were afraid of dying (Heb 2:14)
Jesus died for us. We no longer have to die for our sins anymore. It is adequately paid by Jesus. He went thru’ the fear part that we do not have to go thru’ it anymore. We no longer have to fear, because truly there is no more death in our path.

To me, Jesus sweat blood, Not because he feared death, but because Jesus knew his own life personally would depend on his own course of action for us. Jesus prayed Not to have death taken away but prayer three times to have the cup removed. That 'cup' that he would Not die labeled as a blasphemer of his God.
The emotional weight on Jesus' shoulders as he stood alone was a tremendous burden exhausting him to sheer grief, intense nervous strain, Not fear of death

Jesus taught sleep in death - John 11:12-14 as do the old Hebrew Scriptures - Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5

Who resurrected Jesus according to Acts of the Apostles 3:15; Acts of the Apostles 5:30; Colossians 2:12 but his God.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
My fear of death has waned throughout my lifetime and I'm currently at a point where I have no fear of it and would actually welcome it if it came. I'm not sure if this is a condition of the aging body and mind or a spiritual acceptance of death being imminent.

I doubt any mental capacity will move beyond death, but I do see my life energy returning/remaining in whatever form.

This is a bit of a different scenario than I had 9 years ago when I was a practicing Wiccan and experiencing the death of my daughter. At that time I believed one's spirit experienced a period of rest in the Summerland, and still have a remnant of a belief that one's life energy may go to a place like this to rest. This is due to something my daughter said as she was experiencing what I'm told is terminal restlessness just before she died. She was talking to me about something mundane when she looked just past me and stared saying, "It's so beautiful!" She lost consciousness moments after saying this and her body died a few hours later.
 
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