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Age of Earth

elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
Ouroboros said:
Correct. If I remember right, there's even some proof made to show this. Gödel's incompleteness theorem, if I'm not mistaken.

So, what's your point? There's not a single nut that is exactly identical to another... therefore... what?

Are you suggesting that religion is the better option because religion believes everything and can't prove even 1%? The better option is the one that doesn't even try to understand the world? Or is it something else you're after by suggesting skepticism to science?
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I'm simply saying that we don't know how old the earth is
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
Ouroboros said:
Sorry to butt in, but humanism is a completely different field. It has very little, or nothing to do with science. Humanism is the philosophy that humans are fundamentally good, and that we can do something to improve our world.
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Christian humanism is the only correct form
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
Ouroboros said:
No. We don't know the exact age, but we have a fair estimate.
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That's all I wanted to hear.It's one thing if people say the earth is around however some odd years based on research,experiments etc. it's another to say that the earth IS a certain age.It's all just a theory.
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Ouroboros said:
Ok. Well, it doesn't surprise me that I was wrong about that. I have to check with my son again. He was the one talking about the incompleteness theorem last year, and apparently I must remember it wrong.
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... or (re)read Hofstadter's Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid - a superb book.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
it's another to say that the earth IS a certain age.It's all just a theory.
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You would be in error.

The age of the earth has been deemed fact, and there is no dispute about it.


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution


We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Marisa said:
Many of these surveys are criticized for the way the question is worded. When it's worded in such a way that the participant is forced to choose between science and god, science often loses. When the participant is not forced to choose between science and god, science often wins the day.
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Rather than pontificating about uncited criticisms of 'many' uncited surveys, feel free to critique this poll.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
Science CANNOT 100% prove anything.
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Science admits it is not out to prove anything. That is not science job.


It observes and reports facts. We can choose between facts and myth.


All credible academia accepts the current date, why your fighting education and knowledge is however up for debate.
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
outhouse said:
You would be in error.

The age of the earth has been deemed fact, and there is no dispute about it.


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution


We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
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I'm sorry I lost you at the word "Evolution" which is false,therefore I can't even begin to take into consideration the rest of this.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
elijoe_15 said:
I'm sorry I lost you at the word "Evolution" which is false,therefore I can't even begin to take into consideration the rest of this.
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You would be in error again. Evolution is fact.

The age of the earth has been deemed fact, and there is no dispute about it.


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution


We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
outhouse said:
Science admits it is not out to prove anything. That is not science job.


It observes and reports facts. We can choose between facts and myth.


All credible academia accepts the current date, why your fighting education and knowledge is however up for debate.
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A fact is something that is indisputably the case therefore it would have to be proven which Science can't do.
 
elijoe_15

elijoe_15

Member
outhouse said:
You would be in error again. Evolution is fact.

The age of the earth has been deemed fact, and there is no dispute about it.


IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution


We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

  1. In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
  2. Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
  3. Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
  4. Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
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Whatever man have fun believing falsehood.
 
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