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Age of the earth

Fraleyight

Fraleyight

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Vadergirl123 said:
The bible doesn't contradict itself. Please give me some examples of what you believe is "contradiction."
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Some examples have already been given, and a link was provided showing a large list of contradictions. You chose to ignore all of them and not respond. What would be the point of me posting contradictions if you will ignore mine like everyone else?
 
Heathen Hammer

Heathen Hammer

Nope, you're still wrong
Originally Posted by Vadergirl123
And I don't have a problem with "scientific advancement"(as long as it doesn't contradict the bible)
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You'll be dead wrong every time you choose in that manner
 
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Vadergirl123

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Fraleyight said:
Some examples have already been given, and a link was provided showing a large list of contradictions. You chose to ignore all of them and not respond. What would be the point of me posting contradictions if you will ignore mine like everyone else?
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I'm working on responding, but there's like 140 contradictions. It's going to take me awhile haha(I do have to do other things during my day) but I'm working on them don't worry :)
 
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Vadergirl123

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shawn001 said:
Originally Posted by Vadergirl123
And I don't have a problem with "scientific advancement"(as long as it doesn't contradict the bible)


Like?

"The Inquisition condemned Galileo in 1633 because his teachings clashed with the Bible, which read: "God fixed the earth upon its foundation, not to be moved forever." Galileo was rehabilitated after 359 years. "


Galileo was right and this is wrong ""God fixed the earth upon its foundation, not to be moved forever."


So Vadergirl123, does the earth rotate around the sun or the sun around the earth? How do we know?
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Could you give me the passage of where you got that verse(I'd like to read it b/c I'm pretty sure you're taking it out of context) I don't believe Gallileo's beliefs contradicted the bible. And the inquisition wasn't even biblical. They were part of a church that twisted the words of the bible around for their own gain :(
 
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Vadergirl123

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tumbleweed41 said:
No, they did not.
The written Torah (Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Leviticus, Deuteronomy)
The Oral Torah (Oral Laws)
The Nevi'im (Prophets)
The Ketuvim (Writings)


Only according to Christian tradition

Not surprising for a Jewish Rabbi

Most theologians of the world today do not see it as literal


Much like AiG and other literalist Creationists

You put your faith in the Bible. Not God and his creation.

Like Pi?

I am sure you are.
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What books of the old testament are missing form the torah?

According to, "christian tradition." Jesus himself said he came to fulfil the law

No it's not surprising but I pointed it out anyway....

So just b/c a majority of people believe something , that makes it right?

God and his creation are in the bible...so yeah I put my faith in it. :)

How does pi contradict the bible?
 
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Vadergirl123

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FlyingTeaPot said:
That is because you only heard "evidence" that it is only 6000 years old from some very vocal preachers I think.
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Actually that's not true, alot of the stuff I read has come from evolutionist and creationist books and sites, and the bible of course, but not my church/ pastor
 
Viker

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Vadergirl123 said:
Actually that's not true, alot of the stuff I read has come from evolutionist and creationist books and sites, and the bible of course, but not my church/ pastor
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Links to these books and sites would be nice of you.
 
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Vadergirl123

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The_Evelyonian said:
No, you're the one that's doing that.

I've already said "I don't necessarily think it 'comes from' anywhere" twice now.

Maybe if I rephrase you'll understand where I'm coming from:

"I have no reason to believe it 'originated' anywhere."



Okay, prove it.



The idea that "all men will die" is based on experience. 10 out of 10 die.

As for "absolutes", that's not a concept I put much stock in. No one that I know of -outside of religion- deals in absolutes (except maybe the Sith :D). There are ideas that we can be fairly certain of, but claiming that something is "absolute" is never wise.



I explained this in an earlier post.
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Well I have no reason to believe it didn't originate form anywhere :) And if you have no reason to not believe it came from anywhere. Then you're implying it's always been around. If something didn't originate then it has to have always been around.

Hmm well I guess there's no way I can without a doubt prove it,(and there's also no way to prbe he doesn't exist) but when I make the assumption that he does exist I can use that assumption to show how the world came into being and where our sense of logic comes from.

It's also an absolute

haha nice star wars reference :) and if you don't "put much stock" in absolutes then you can't even be sure of reality. I mean how can you be sure X=X or what's true or false. Without absolutes you have no sense of it.
 
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Vadergirl123

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Viker said:
Links to these books and sites would be nice of you.
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Mostly AIG and the talk origins archive are two that come to mind...the evolinian posted some links to the talk origins archive earlier. I also look at gotquestions.org(that site is based on the belief that the bible is true though, so I doubt you'd like it too much haha)
 
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Vadergirl123

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Me Myself said:
The bible contradicts the Mahabharat.

the Mahabharat is inspired by Gods.

that way, you know that the bible can only be wrong. It´s the word of the Gods. The bible cannot compete with the word of the Gods.
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That's your opinon and my opinion is that the bible is superior to the Mahabharat, also the bible doesn't contradict itself(I'll post soemthing about that later today)
 
tumbleweed41

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Pi =/= 3

In fact, if we were to 'round off' Pi to 3 in engineering, any curved surface would be off by more than 10%
So no, 3 isn't close enough, or correct in any sense of the word.

But let me ask you this, if Pi is off by more than 10% in the Bible, does that challenge your salvation at all?
 
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Vadergirl123

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The_Evelyonian said:
What, specifically, do we do that shows a god must exist? You haven't answered that question yet.
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Yes I have, I said our sense of absolutes(although you don't put much stock in them, but you still live your life as if you believe in them). We know X=X we know B doesn't =X. God is a God of absolutes and since I believe he created us then that's where I believe our sense of absolutes come from. :)
 
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Vadergirl123

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tumbleweed41 said:
Pi =/= 3

In fact, if we were to 'round off' Pi to 3 in engineering, any curved surface would be off by more than 10%
So no, 3 isn't close enough, or correct in any sense of the word.

But let me ask you this, if Pi is off by more than 10% in the Bible, does that challenge your salvation at all?
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I don't see what the rounding of pi has to do with my salvation?
 
Viker

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Vadergirl123 said:
Mostly AIG and the talk origins archive are two that come to mind...the evolinian posted some links to the talk origins archive earlier. I also look at gotquestions.org(that site is based on the belief that the bible is true though, so I doubt you'd like it too much haha)
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Why wouldn't I like it too much? I enjoy diversity of opinion and knowing what makes my adversaries(potential dinner) tick.
 
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