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Age of the earth

The_Evelyonian

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
Vadergirl123 said:
So you beleive the laws of logic just randomly appeared in our universe, and didn't originate anywhere?
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Did I say that?

Vadergirl123 said:
I'm more of claiming my God exists
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And failing to back that claim up.

Vadergirl123 said:
and saying the way humans live reflect that he exists(because we were created in his image.
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How do our lives reflect that he exists? How do you know we were created in your god's image?

Vadergirl123 said:
Besides other God's don't claim that they created us in their image
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Irrelevant.

Vadergirl123 said:
so there's no reason for you to use the example of Allah
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;) Nice try.
 
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Looncall

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Vadergirl123 said:
They're liars??? Why do you say that? I thought the website gave some assumptions that scientists make about the earth's age...
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Their claims are false.

You can rely on creationist websites to be jam-packed with lies. Their authors are counting on the ignorance of their religious readers.

Avoid those web sites, you are being had. If you hear that guff in church, I recommend you have some hard words with your pastor.
 
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Vadergirl123

Active Member
The_Evelyonian said:
Did I say that?



And failing to back that claim up.



How do our lives reflect that we were created in your god's image?



Irrelevant.



;) Nice try.
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(I'm still struggling with the multi-quote sorry) No you didn't say that, but do you agree with the statement?

I'm not failing. I'm simply having difficulty getting my point across :) haha

Again where do you think a human being's sense of logic comes from?

And it's not an irrelevant point, why are you making a claim about Allah and other gods that they themselves never claimed?
 
The_Evelyonian

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
Vadergirl123 said:
(I'm still struggling with the multi-quote sorry) No you didn't say that, but do you agree with the statement?
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No.

Vadergirl123 said:
I'm not failing. I'm simply having difficulty getting my point across :) haha
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Okay.

Vadergirl123 said:
Again where do you think a human being's sense of logic comes from?
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Define "sense of logic"

Vadergirl123 said:
And it's not an irrelevant point, why are you making a claim about Allah and other gods that they themselves never claimed?
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What claim did I make?
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
Vadergirl123 said:
Okay then it's not circular reasoning. The bible is true because it's God's word and his word says it's true.
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The Mahabharat is true because it is inspired by the Gods, so a lot in the bible is wrong because a lot of the bible contradicts the mahabharat.

I know the Mahabharat is inspired by Gods because the Mahabharat says so.

And this guy wrote it:

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You see how he broke his tusk? that´s because he sacrificed his tusk to use it as a pen and write the Mahabharat. And you dare not believe int it! :cover:
 
The_Evelyonian

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
Vadergirl123 said:
why are you making a claim about Allah and other gods that they themselves never claimed?
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If you're referring to this:

The_Evelyonian said:
"Logic comes from Allah" (assertion 1)

"Therefore, whenever you use logic, you're proving Allah exists" (assertion 2)

"Logic comes from Odin" (assertion 1)

"Therefore, whenever you use logic, you're proving Odin exists" (assertion 2)

"Logic comes from Steve the Invisible Pink Bunny Rabbit" (assertion 1)

"Therefore, whenever you use logic, you're proving Steve the Invisible Pink Bunny Rabbit exists" (assertion 2)

"And why is that "nonsense" if Allah's always been in existence the concept of logic would come from him."

"And why is that "nonsense" if Odin's always been in existence the concept of logic would come from him."

"And why is that "nonsense" if Steve the Invisible Pink Bunny Rabbit's always been in existence the concept of logic would come from him."
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I did it to point out the absurdity of using a presuppositionalist argument, and to point out that you were using a double standard. I explained all of that in the post itself.

Also, the fact that Allah, Odin, or STIPBR never claimed any of these things is irrelevant because I honestly don't believe your god made these claims either. A book written by men who claimed divine inspiration contains claims that they claim were made your god.

This takes me back to one of the first questions I asked you: How do you know the book is accurate?

How do you know that when the authors of the Bible said "Thus saith the LORD..." they were telling the truth?
 
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kiwimac

kiwimac

Brother Napalm of God's Love
Vadergirl123 said:
There's no gap. The earth wasn't formed(created) yet and then God created it...6,000yrs ago
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I'm sorry, there are civilizations older than that on this planet. What were they dong when this burst of creation happened around them?
 
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Vadergirl123

Active Member
Looncall said:
Their claims are false.

You can rely on creationist websites to be jam-packed with lies. Their authors are counting on the ignorance of their religious readers.

Avoid those web sites, you are being had. If you hear that guff in church, I recommend you have some hard words with your pastor.
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When I posted the site I said I was ONLY doing so because it showed some assumptions that old earth scientists make. I don't rely on only websites that share my viewpoint :( and my church didn't tell me anything about this.
 
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Vadergirl123

Active Member
The_Evelyonian said:
No.



Okay.



Define "sense of logic"



What claim did I make?
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If you don't then you're implying you believe logic originated from somewhere. So again where? (I say God created it)

As to sense of logic, I mean knowing that certain things are absolutes(I probably should've worded it differently). For instance,"All men will die"

You said Allah's always been in existence and the concept of knowledge comes from him." he doesn't claim he's always been in existence.
 
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