Aliens (again)

[frg001]

... a statement laced with ignorance and fallacy.

What a ludicrous reply. A thinly veiled insult with absolutely nothing to back it.

 

[cardero]

Perhaps alien species have figured out a way to use, "black holes" much the way we use short cuts on surface streets.

When I read reports about people witnessing strange unidentified craft blink out from one location only to appear in a different one, I would suspect that there would be a manipulation of time and space being involved.

 

[Darkness]

All in all, I don't know how any atheist or any deistic evolutionist can deny the existence of aliens.

Simply because it is possible life formed on other planets, does not mean it did.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Simply because it is possible life formed on other planets, does not mean it did.

... or even that it's likely.

 

[frg001]

... or even that it's likely.

I would say it was very likely given the figures involved, but then looking at your short and sour replies you probably don't even want to go into any detail. Why even bother posting?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I would say it was very likely given the figures involved, but then looking at your short and sour replies you probably don't even want to go into any detail.

I'll be glad to. Why would it be very likely?

 

[frg001]

I'll be glad to. Why would it be very likely?

Simply the numbers involved.
Life has spawned here. I believe it is hugely unlikely that life has not spawned on many other worlds in the galaxy, never mind the universe.

Why do you think it is unlikely?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Simply the numbers involved.
Life has spawned here. I believe it is hugely unlikely that life has not spawned on many other worlds in the galaxy, never mind the universe.

Why do you think it is unlikely?

Actually, I presume it's quite possible. But, as I said earlier, the issue is the likelihood of advanced extraterrestrial intelligence.

 

[frg001]

Actually, I presume it's quite possible. But, as I said earlier, the issue is the likelihood of advanced extraterrestrial intelligence.

Evolution. The likelihood is there are potentially billions of life-supporting planets. Why would you think that we would be the most advanced? I would logically assume we were about halfway. So some planets that have life have only simple life, and some have been around for many thousands, millions, billions of years more.

If you believe intelligent life gains intelligence as it evolves, then it's logical to assume that there is far more intelligence than that of humans, out there.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Evolution.

Wrong answer. Evolution is not a ladder but a sieve. You are not the acme of evolutionary progress, but the unintended consequence of happenstance.

 

[frg001]

Wrong answer. Evolution is not a ladder but a sieve. You are not the acme of evolutionary progress, but the unintended consequence of happenstance.

If I ever want someone to write me a page of gobblesegook, and nonsensical wibble, I'll be sure to look you up, until then, I'll leave your circular, irrelevant nonsense and look forward to replies with something to say.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If I ever want someone to write me a page of gobblesegook, and nonsensical wibble, I'll be sure to look you up, until then, I'll leave your circular, irrelevant nonsense and look forward to replies with something to say.

Perhaps it's your understanding that's defective ... :yes:

 

[Melissa G]

Zero rational basis? Actually he presented quite a rational argument, only he did not give credit to the originator of the theory known as the Drake Equation.

And, you don't know as much about the universe as you think you do. Light speed is only the speed limit in space/time.

I'd like to expand on your theory a bit frg001. Perhaps one group of "aliens" goes around the universe planting life experiments based on the suitability of the host planet. Essentially, this one group might be the original beings, the first ones to evolve into the highest dimension and find God. They might be working for God now. They would be what the ancients called "angels".

Now, there might be many other "aliens" who have evolved on planets from previous life experiments. These others would do whatever they want and often interfere with new life experiments. Since the universe has free will the original group will not prevent their other creations from interfering but they are not necessarily happy about it.

might, could be, maybe, not really much of a basis for anything is it ? The Universe has free will, so you think the universe has a mind ?

The laws of relativity cannot be broken, I believe Einstein has already demonstrated this, anything else is just wishful thinking.

Melissa G

 

[cardero]

Melissa G writes: anything else is just wishful thinking.

If there are other highly intelligent BEings, I would imagine that this is exactly how they become so highly intelligent.

 

[Melissa G]

Imagine, yes, it's wonderful where imagination can take you. Sometimes I get to imagine, there is a race of intelligent tea pots, in orbit around Polaris. Every now and again, they migrate across the galaxy and then back again, just to fill in the time. Imagination can take you anywhere and make you believe in anything

 

[frg001]

Perhaps it's your understanding that's defective ... :yes:

Yeah right on.
Are you typing with your false teeth? I wonder?
It's just that your responses have been incredibly irrelevent grunts. Much like a 'can't be bothered teenager'

Please don't reply.

 

[frg001]

might, could be, maybe, not really much of a basis for anything is it ? The Universe has free will, so you think the universe has a mind ?

The laws of relativity cannot be broken, I believe Einstein has already demonstrated this, anything else is just wishful thinking.

Melissa G

Even if... which I doubt, that Einstein (a human) has the laws of physics nailed on, then we can still get around it by manipulating space/time

Do you really think that us mere humans (the same ones who come up with fanciful fairy stories of supernatural creators) have the answers to the laws of the universe? I certainly don't.

I'm sure rabbits have ideas and rules of how the 'universe' works, but we know better.
I'm sure we are less intelligent than rabbits in comparison to other life out there...

 

[frg001]

Imagine, yes, it's wonderful where imagination can take you. Sometimes I get to imagine, there is a race of intelligent tea pots, in orbit around Polaris. Every now and again, they migrate across the galaxy and then back again, just to fill in the time. Imagination can take you anywhere and make you believe in anything

You see there is no need for this comment in such a debate...

I only wish I could give negative frubals...

 

[cardero]

Imagine, yes, it's wonderful where imagination can take you. Sometimes I get to imagine, there is a race of intelligent tea pots, in orbit around Polaris. Every now and again, they migrate across the galaxy and then back again, just to fill in the time. Imagination can take you anywhere and make you believe in anything

But nothing can be more wonderful as when perception meets reality.

 

[yossarian22]

The laws of relativity cannot be broken,

They can be messed with at the very least

I believe Einstein has already demonstrated this, anything else is just wishful thinking.

Who says faster than light travel is needed for interstellar travel anyhow?