All 45 Christian institutions in Mosul occupied or destroyed by ISIS

[Estro Felino]

i know, hay. you wouldnt. i am just a bit nervous today. please, accept my apologies if i offended you.

dear friend, you didn't offend me.
I understand your feelings

 

[Phil25]

Well...we Christians are taught to love everyone...and I can assure you that no Christian (and I underline no Christian) would ever hurt a Muslim.
We love Muslims and we let them build their mosques in our countries. We let them preach Islam. And we would never hurt them

Have you ever heard of a Christian hurting a Muslim ? I haven't

Wait until, you are forced to convert to Islam. If ISIS can exist in Iraq, they can exist anywhere with sufficient Muslim population, and that includes Europe. There's already an increase in radicalization of Muslim European Youth.
Maybe Hay, you are a Christian who wants to be forcibly converted to Islam in future, but remember there will always be some Christians who will speak out against Islamic Persecution of Christians. Thats not hate. Thats speaking Truth.
May God bless us.

 

[YmirGF]

These are the oldest Christian communities that they are destroying. What is astounding is that the Christian West is largely silent.

My guess is that any protest from the "west" would simply upset members of the "Religion of Peace ®" and hasten the obliteration.

Besides which, the poster wasn't talking about that.

The prejudice these terrorists have against Christians astounds me.

I was puzzled why anyone would be astounded by Muslim prejudice against Christians (or any religious group, for that matter).

 

[Glaurung]

Well...that's why I am absolutely against that any Christian denomination build Churches and constitute dioceses in Islamic territories.
But if they want to become martyrs, let them become martyrs

Do you know anything? Christianity has existed in the Middle East centuries before Islam. And now you have the audacity to claim that these communities do not deserve the right to exist because a militia of Muslim radicals have decided that it's 'their territory' .

ISIS and their ilk are murderers. The fact you'd even indirectly defend it is astonishing.

 

[Sees]

It's very sad. Even the most gentlest, evolved flavor of Islam won't hide the fact that it is insulting and antagonistic to Judaism, Christianity...and more, at it's very core. It's ingrained into it. This type of thing will be around for as long as Islam exists because some will always champion the insulting and antagonistic parts to the extreme.

 

[Estro Felino]

Wait until, you are forced to convert to Islam. If ISIS can exist in Iraq, they can exist anywhere with sufficient Muslim population, and that includes Europe. There's already an increase in radicalization of Muslim European Youth.
Maybe Hay, you are a Christian who wants to be forcibly converted to Islam in future, but remember there will always be some Christians who will speak out against Islamic Persecution of Christians. Thats not hate. Thats speaking Truth.
May God bless us.

I would never convert to Islam. Fortunately I live in a country where there is a severe constitution about the protection of fundamental human rights, like the freedom of thought and religion.
If there is a group that preaches hatred toward Christianity and mass conversion to Islam, this group will be immediately declared illegal.
Besides, I know some Muslims in my country. They never talk about religion and they would never try to convert you. They are very respectful

 

[Estro Felino]

Do you know anything? Christianity has existed in the Middle East centuries before Islam. And now you have the audacity to claim that these communities do not deserve the right to exist because a militia of Muslim radicals have decided that it's 'their territory' .

ISIS and their ilk are murderers. The fact you'd even indirectly defend it is astonishing.

I'm not defending anyone and anything. You've certainly misread my post.

 

[ametist]

Wait until, you are forced to convert to Islam. If ISIS can exist in Iraq, they can exist anywhere with sufficient Muslim population, and that includes Europe. There's already an increase in radicalization of Muslim European Youth.
Maybe Hay, you are a Christian who wants to be forcibly converted to Islam in future, but remember there will always be some Christians who will speak out against Islamic Persecution of Christians. Thats not hate. Thats speaking Truth.
May God bless us.

what you dont understand is we are human before anything else. Just like we dont want unjustice unleashed upon us, just like we dont want our freedoms to be taken for no reason, we dont like to stand by when same unjustice is unleashed upon others or when anyone is stripped off their rights.
but of course there are always some monsters who are in such troubled mental situations, they want others to be in similar mental confusion and do everything to make that happen, so that they can justify their acts that arises out of their madness.
if anyone tries to convert hay or anyone by force where i am present,you can come and see with your own eyes what limits i will force to stop that from happenning but i doubt some monsters will do the same because it is good propaganda to have some christians converted forcefully to have an ongoing hatred towards muslims.
Btw, if you are interested you can read from many sources ( i have seen some in these threads too) how ISIS cant have anything to do with islam. it is an organization that admits to the intention of blowing up even kaaba. they blew up the tombs of prophets mentioned in quran and digged up the bones. it is a fabricated organization for ME plans.

 

[Matemkar]

Well...we Christians are taught to love everyone...and I can assure you that no Christian (and I underline no Christian) would ever hurt a Muslim.

We love Muslims and we let them build their mosques in our countries. We let them preach Islam. And we would never hurt them

Have you ever heard of a Christian hurting a Muslim ? I haven't

Let's be fair brother, there are lunatics in both and all sides that do not act by or represent the teachings of these religions. In the C.A.R. for instance, you can see extremist "Christians" massacre Muslims. In Palestine, extremist "Jews" do the same. In Burma "Buddhists" do the same. But, again, as I said, such monsters do not respresent these faiths.

Why are Muslims not commenting in this thread?

I don't know about other Muslim brothers and sisters, but, personally, due to being busy, I can't view all the threads when I log in. Instead, I just check Islam DIR and sometimes Politics DIRS. Or else, I would have commented on this earlier.

And if you wonder about the views of Muslims, and the Muslims here do not respond to you because of certain limitations, you can ask the views of:

sunni muslims here:

Sunni Port - Masabih Forum

shia muslims here:

ShiaChat.com

sufi muslims here:

Spirit Of Islam

Anyway, as for the ISIS and other terrorists. We made mention of them in the Islam-Sunni DIR on this forum, I guess, and in some other threads also. You can refer to them to get a glimpse of our views.

e.g.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/sunni-dir/166140-what-do-you-think-isis-islamic.html

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...n-singer-zionist-regime-extremists-syria.html

These takfiri cannibals (FSA/IF, Nusra and ISIS, etc.) in Syria and Iraq, who sadly became powerful by the funding, arming, training, etc. of the US, Zionist Regime, Western Governments and their allies, have been targeting the vigilant Muslim and Christian nations in the region. And it is not just the Christians and Churches get attacked. Sunni and Shia Muslims and their Jamis and Masjids (mosques), Hosseiniyahs, Shrines, etc. are also attacked.

http://en.alalam.ir/category/12

BBC News - In pictures: Isis destroys Iraq shrines

And I believe any rational person would agree that, a terrorist group which even blows up the shrines of the Prophets and saints of a certain religion and kills subscribers of that faith can represent that faith.

So, please, do not speak of "Islamic persecution" against Christians when you mention these sad events. For ISIL and other agents do not represent Islam. And they attack Muslims more than they attack other faiths.

Shame on these terrorists and shame on who have formed, supported, armed, trained and used them. And inshaAllah, I believe, the Syrian and Iraqi armies will wipe them out.

ma salam

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

hi Shiranui117 --
i think we from same city--
thank you

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Well...that's why I am absolutely against that any Christian denomination build Churches and constitute dioceses in Islamic territories.
But if they want to become martyrs, let them become martyrs

That is a very stupid statement.
Christians were there first, Muslims are the new comers.
All of the oldest christian churches are to be found in the middle East.

In the list shown very few are anything like "new" denominations.

 

[Estro Felino]

That is a very stupid statement.
Christians were there first, Muslims are the new comers.
All of the oldest christian churches are to be found in the middle East.

In the list shown very few are anything like "new" denominations.

If they keep fighting this jihad, there will never be the chance of establishing peace reciprocal respect.

what did Christians do to ISIS? nothing...and still they don't want us there

 

[Shiranui117]

I was puzzled why anyone would be astounded by Muslim prejudice against Christians (or any religious group, for that matter).

What shocks me more is that this is a wholesale, thorough, complete extermination of Christians. I haven't heard of anything this methodical and purposeful against us since the Greek and Armenian Genocides committed by Turkey after WWI. This is the same level of methodicalness and thoroughness as the Holocaust.

 

[Phil25]

What shocks me more is that this is a wholesale, thorough, complete extermination of Christians. I haven't heard of anything this methodical and purposeful against us since the Greek and Armenian Genocides committed by Turkey after WWI. This is the same level of methodicalness and thoroughness as the Holocaust.

Remember the Assyrian Genocide too
Its been almost 100 yrs since the Armenian Genocide, and Christians are again facing a Genocide.
I hate to say it, but I dont think Christians have any other option other than leave Middle Eastern. Otherwise we will something more brutal than Holocaust.
No Muslim, No Liberal Christian, No Human Rights Activists No UN is for them. They are on their own.

 

[Matemkar]

Iraqi Sunni Muslims and Christians take refuge into Shia Muslim majority cities and shia islamic shrines when they were persecuted by the ISIL and refused by Kurds as well.

In videos:

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News in English:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/24/husain-fleeing-iraqi-christians-find-safe-haven-sh/

 

[Shiranui117]

Good on them! May God bless these Shia!

 

[Shiranui117]

I read an article last night on how children are being chased out of their homes by ISIS into the desert, where they are forced to hide until they die of starvation, thirst or exposure to the elements. In addition, other children are being beheaded, with their heads being erected on poles in parks and public squares. Women are being abducted, raped and forcefully married to ISIS militants while their Christian husbands are executed.

I'd link to the article detailing all of this, but the pictures posted in the article are so graphic that I'm physically sick and probably on the verge of vomiting, and I don't want to break forum rules by posting that sort of content.

 

[Estro Felino]

I read an article last night on how children are being chased out of their homes by ISIS into the desert, where they are forced to hide until they die of starvation, thirst or exposure to the elements. In addition, other children are being beheaded, with their heads being erected on poles in parks and public squares. Women are being abducted, raped and forcefully married to ISIS militants while their Christian husbands are executed.

Do you still believe that Christian churches should settle down into the Middle East?

 

[Phil25]

Do you still believe that Christian churches should settle down into the Middle East?

They were there even before Muhammad existed. Why dont you understand?????? Its not like Christians invaded Muslim lands. Muslims invaded Christian lands. Is it so difficult understand??

 

[Phil25]

I read an article last night on how children are being chased out of their homes by ISIS into the desert, where they are forced to hide until they die of starvation, thirst or exposure to the elements. In addition, other children are being beheaded, with their heads being erected on poles in parks and public squares. Women are being abducted, raped and forcefully married to ISIS militants while their Christian husbands are executed.

I'd link to the article detailing all of this, but the pictures posted in the article are so graphic that I'm physically sick and probably on the verge of vomiting, and I don't want to break forum rules by posting that sort of content.

Yeah I saw some of those pictures. Truly horrific. Wont be surprised if some of the surviving Christians decide to blow Mosques and Muslims up.