All 45 Christian institutions in Mosul occupied or destroyed by ISIS

[Estro Felino]

They were there even before Muhammad existed. Why dont you understand?????? Its not like Christians invaded Muslim lands. Muslims invaded Christian lands. Is it so difficult understand??

Yes. It is very very difficult to understand why civilized people remain in countries where there are people like those.

 

[Shiranui117]

Yeah I saw some of those pictures. Truly horrific. Wont be surprised if some of the surviving Christians decide to blow Mosques and Muslims up.

I pray that it won't come to that, but honestly, I couldn't blame them if they started fighting back like lions. If I had both my ears and didn't have asthma, heck, I think I might sign up for the military.

 

[Phil25]

Yes. It is very very difficult to understand why civilized people remain in countries where there are people like those.

The thing is, "Uncivilized" people have no right to force "Civilized" out. "Civilized" will fight the "Uncivilized".

 

[Phil25]

I pray that it won't come to that, but honestly, I couldn't blame them if they started fighting back like lions. If I had both my ears and didn't have asthma, heck, I think I might sign up for the military.

IMO, Peace &Non Violence cannot solve the problem of Muslim Extremism but Iron &Blood will.
Its because we get scared and run away from Muslim Terrorists that they continue to persecute us. If we fight like lions, they might think twice before attacking us.

 

[Matemkar]

Is your immediate concern for Christian brethren there out of the love of Christians? Or out of the hate of Muslims? It seems the latter to me, Phil. You don't care about the Christians in the ME.

Because otherwise you wouldn't support Israel. They have also been killing Arab Christians in Lebanon and Palestine. But, do you care? Nope! Instead you say you support Israel. So, tell me why the double standards? When Zionists kill Christians, you are telling them to turn the other cheek. It is not your cheek in the end, doesn't matter to you anyway, huh? You are leaving Palestinian and Lebanese Christians at the "mercy" of the Zionists. But, when some western backed "Muslim" terrorists do the same in Iraq, you are not calling them to turn the other cheek, right? Suddenly you start to call Arab Christians in Iraq as "us". It is a joke. "Christian" Zionism. Just like the "Muslim" Zionism is a joke. They work hand in hand to destroy every Muslim, Christian, Yazdi, etc. nation, from Nile to Euphrates, so that the Zionist Masters can settle the no longer uninhabited place.

 

[Estro Felino]

The thing is, "Uncivilized" people have no right to force "Civilized" out. "Civilized" will fight the "Uncivilized".

I understand. Males like to fight. I don't.I would flee

 

[metis]

Is your immediate concern for Christian brethren there out of the love of Christians? Or out of the hate of Muslims? It seems the latter to me, Phil. You don't care about the Christians in the ME.

Because otherwise you wouldn't support Israel. They have also been killing Arab Christians in Lebanon and Palestine. But, do you care? Nope! Instead you say you support Israel. So, tell me why the double standards? When Zionists kill Christians, you are telling them to turn the other cheek. It is not your cheek in the end, doesn't matter to you anyway, huh? You are leaving Palestinian and Lebanese Christians at the "mercy" of the Zionists. But, when some western backed "Muslim" terrorists do the same in Iraq, you are not calling them to turn the other cheek, right? Suddenly you start to call Arab Christians in Iraq as "us". It is a joke. "Christian" Zionism. Just like the "Muslim" Zionism is a joke. They work hand in hand to destroy every Muslim, Christian, Yazdi, etc. nation, from Nile to Euphrates, so that the Zionist Masters can settle the no longer uninhabited place.

All the above from one who hero-worships the most violent terrorist in the world. The CIA estimates that Iran spends over $300 million per year on supporting terrorist groups worldwide that are so willing to even massacre masses of fellow Muslems that they religiously disagree with.

 

[Matemkar]

Well then it is thousands of times less than what the US has given the terrorists in Syria, Afghanistan, etc. I hope Iran is able to help more.

Though your supposition of "the groups that are so willing to even massacre masses of fellow Muslems that they religiously disagree with" is just baseless.

As for the term, terrorist, it changes really. The American govt. "you hero worship", believes MKO, FSA, etc. are not terrorists. And it supports them.

Same goes for Islamic Iran. Iran does not consider Hizbollah and Hamas to be terrorists. Neither other peaceful Muslims and Christians in the region think that they are terrorists.

On the contrary, they believe Iran, Hamas, Hizbollah, etc. are the saviours of Muslims and Christians from the oppression of both Zionist regime and the terrorist groups they support such as Nusra, FSA, ISIS, etc.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u9uMsWBmLo

 

[Godobeyer]

Why are Muslims not commenting in this thread?

I am here

this Forum is very vast , i just notice in "who"s Online "

this would be make you angry

"I hope ISIS would get you (Phil25) , before they would get us "

today i comment on this link , maybe my comment make you feel better

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/quranic-debates/164701-why-isis-wrong-9.html

 

[metis]

Though your supposition of "the groups that are so willing to even massacre masses of fellow Muslems that they religiously disagree with" is just baseless.

You've got to be kidding?!

 

[Matemkar]

No, I am not.

 

[metis]

No, I am not.

Oh really?! Apparently you must be the only person in the world who doesn't either see this, or maybe you just can't admit to it. Which groups are doing the fighting in Iraq? Syria? the Kurds v the Turks? Hamas v el-Fatah? Iran v Iraq in the 1980's?

NEWS FLASH! There have been far more Muslem killed by other Muslems than any other group killed by Muslems.

 

[Estro Felino]

On the contrary, they believe Iran, Hamas, Hizbollah, etc. are the saviors of Muslims and Christians from the oppression of both Zionist regime and the terrorist groups they support such as Nusra, FSA, ISIS, etc.

Well..I don't think that melting Politics and Religion is a good idea. European Muslims are the most pacific people you'll ever meet. They never talk about religion, have a cosmopolitan mind, and live in perfect harmony with Christians. Wonderful mosques were built in Europe and these Islamic communities love confrontation with the other religions. But European countries are all secular states. When also Israel and other Islamic countries will become as secular as European countries, they will have peace as we do in Europe.

 

[Avi1001]

I understand. Males like to fight. I don't.I would flee

Now there's a fine how do you do...what if your family's safety was at stake ? What about your community ? Wait till you get old...like 30.

 

[Estro Felino]

Now there's a fine how do you do...what if your family's safety was at stake ? What about your community ? Wait till you get old...like 30.

actually I'm 30. well...28

 

[Phil25]

Is your immediate concern for Christian brethren there out of the love of Christians? Or out of the hate of Muslims? It seems the latter to me, Phil. You don't care about the Christians in the ME.

Because otherwise you wouldn't support Israel. They have also been killing Arab Christians in Lebanon and Palestine. But, do you care? Nope! Instead you say you support Israel. So, tell me why the double standards? When Zionists kill Christians, you are telling them to turn the other cheek. It is not your cheek in the end, doesn't matter to you anyway, huh? You are leaving Palestinian and Lebanese Christians at the "mercy" of the Zionists. But, when some western backed "Muslim" terrorists do the same in Iraq, you are not calling them to turn the other cheek, right? Suddenly you start to call Arab Christians in Iraq as "us". It is a joke. "Christian" Zionism. Just like the "Muslim" Zionism is a joke. They work hand in hand to destroy every Muslim, Christian, Yazdi, etc. nation, from Nile to Euphrates, so that the Zionist Masters can settle the no longer uninhabited place.

You are free to have your opinion, if you think that the latter applies to me so be it.
But let me say my point, I am deeply concerned for Christians of ME.
The thing is Christians are fleeing, Egypt, Palestine, Iraq etc while Christians are increasing in Israel. Why do you think its happening? Because Israel deeply persecutes Christians?

Israelis killed Lebanese Christians? The civil war was Christians vs. Muslims and not Christians and Muslims together as brothers/sisters vs. cruel Zionist invaders.

Israelis want to create a state from Nile to Euphrates by killing all Christians and Yezidis?
On second thoughts I guess, ISIS is actually Jewish Zionists

 

[metis]

actually I'm 30. well...28

28! My kids are a lot older than that!

 

[Matemkar]

Oh really?! Apparently you must be the only person in the world who doesn't either see this, or maybe you just can't admit to it. Which groups are doing the fighting in Iraq? Syria? the Kurds v the Turks? Hamas v el-Fatah? Iran v Iraq in the 1980's?

Believe me, I truly see what is going on.

And, you diverted the topic. You mentioned "Islamic Iran supporting terrorist groups which even want to kill every Muslim that disagrees". And I say it is fallacy.

In 1980's it was the west that supported Saddam invade Iran. Just because Iranian nation got rid of the US installed Shah/King and ended the British plundering of oil.

And it was the western governments that supplied Saddam chemical weapons to use against Iranians and Iraqi Kurds.

And it was the western governments that invaded Iraq when Iraqis were about to have an Iran like revolution.

Thus, the early birth in Iraq and long time lasting invasion caused seperatists to emerge, Saddam loyalists to hide. Thus later emerged todays cannibal challenge of course with the support of subserviant gulf states.

Likewise in Syria, it is the western governments and their allies (gulf kingdoms/sheikhdoms) which supports FSA and other terrorists.

In Turkey, though the government is betrayer, there are also "Kurdish" terrorist groups, like PKK. And you see when Iran captures PKK and PJAK members, if they are Turkish citizens, Iran delivers them to the Turkish Jandarma. So that they go on trials. Iran never supports PKK. Rather it fights PKK and PJAK.

In none of these countries, Iran supported rebels, terrorists.

Again you divert it. You neglect that your claim was on Iran not for all Muslims. And, what I said was not that all Muslims are innocent. It was that Iranian government has been innocent and they never armed-trained the rebels whether the rebels are rightful or wrong.

See, Bahrain for instrance. The majority is Shia Muslims. And they are persecuted by a wahabi royal family. There is a conflict there. But you won't see Iran training and arming shia Muslims there. So there are no clashes.

So, you see, Iran is working for peace while western governments, and their allies in the region do not. They have always supported, trained, funded and armed these rebels. And your beloved "Israel" also funds and arms FSA, ISIL and other cannibals against Syria. It even treats the wounded of the FSA and ISIL and send them back so that they continue to fight Muslims.

As you can see, the understanding of terrorism changes. To you, any government and nation that supports the stability and unity of the states from Nile to Euphrates are terrorists! And those who fight there are freedom wishers! To us, it is the opposite.

And once again, I say, never Iran supported terrorist groups in Iraq or Syria. But western governments and "Israel" does.

 

[metis]

Believe me, I truly see what is going on.

And, you diverted the topic. You mentioned "Islamic Iran supporting terrorist groups which even want to kill every Muslim that disagrees". And I say it is fallacy.

In 1980's it was the west that supported Saddam invade Iran. Just because Iranian nation got rid of the US installed Shah/King and ended the British plundering of oil.

And it was the western governments that gave Saddam chemical weapons to use against Kurds.

And it was the western governments that invaded Iraq when Iraqis were about to have an Iran like revolution.

Thus, the early birth and long time lasting invasion caused seperatists to emerge, Saddam loyalists to hide. Thus later emerged todays cannibal challenge of course with the support of subserviant "Muslim" states.

Likewise in Syria, it is the western governments and their allies (gulf kingdoms/sheikhdoms) which supports FSA and other terrorists.

In Turkey, though the government is betrayer, there are also "Kurdish" terrorist groups, like PKK. And you see when Iran captures PKK and PJAK members, if they are Turkish citizens, Iran delivers them to the Turkish Jandarma. So that they go on trials. Iran never supports PKK. Rather it fights PKK and PJAK.

In none of these countries, Iran supported rebels, terrorists.

Again you divert it. You neglect that your claim was on Iran not for all Muslims. And, what I said was not that all Muslims are innocent. It was that Iranian government has been innocent and they never armed-trained the rebels whether the rebels are rightful or wrong.

See, Bahrain for instrance. The majority is Shia Muslims. And they are persecuted by a wahabi royal family. There is a conflict there. But you won't see Iran training and arming shia Muslims there. So there are no clashes.

So, you see, Iran is working for peace while western governments, and their allies in the region do not. They have always supported, trained, funded and armed these rebels. And your beloved "Israel" also funds and arms FSA, ISIL and other cannibals against Syria. It even treats the wounded of the FSA and ISIL and send them back so that they continue to fight Muslims.

As you can see, the understanding of terrorism changes. To you, any government and nation that supports the stability and unity of the states from Nile to Euphrates are terrorists! And those who fight there are freedom wishers! To us, it is the opposite.

And once again, I say, never Iran supported terrorist groups in Iraq or Syria. But western governments and "Israel" does.

Again, you're missing the point as outhouse also mentioned, namely what we were commenting on is the reality of Muslem on Muslem violence and war that you denied.

 

[Phil25]

Believe me, I truly see what is going on.

And, you diverted the topic. You mentioned "Islamic Iran supporting terrorist groups which even want to kill every Muslim that disagrees". And I say it is fallacy.

In 1980's it was the west that supported Saddam invade Iran. Just because Iranian nation got rid of the US installed Shah/King and ended the British plundering of oil.

And it was the western governments that supplied Saddam chemical weapons to use against Iranians and Iraqi Kurds.

And it was the western governments that invaded Iraq when Iraqis were about to have an Iran like revolution.

Thus, the early birth in Iraq and long time lasting invasion caused seperatists to emerge, Saddam loyalists to hide. Thus later emerged todays cannibal challenge of course with the support of subserviant gulf states.

Likewise in Syria, it is the western governments and their allies (gulf kingdoms/sheikhdoms) which supports FSA and other terrorists.

In Turkey, though the government is betrayer, there are also "Kurdish" terrorist groups, like PKK. And you see when Iran captures PKK and PJAK members, if they are Turkish citizens, Iran delivers them to the Turkish Jandarma. So that they go on trials. Iran never supports PKK. Rather it fights PKK and PJAK.

In none of these countries, Iran supported rebels, terrorists.

Again you divert it. You neglect that your claim was on Iran not for all Muslims. And, what I said was not that all Muslims are innocent. It was that Iranian government has been innocent and they never armed-trained the rebels whether the rebels are rightful or wrong.

See, Bahrain for instrance. The majority is Shia Muslims. And they are persecuted by a wahabi royal family. There is a conflict there. But you won't see Iran training and arming shia Muslims there. So there are no clashes.

So, you see, Iran is working for peace while western governments, and their allies in the region do not. They have always supported, trained, funded and armed these rebels. And your beloved "Israel" also funds and arms FSA, ISIL and other cannibals against Syria. It even treats the wounded of the FSA and ISIL and send them back so that they continue to fight Muslims.

As you can see, the understanding of terrorism changes. To you, any government and nation that supports the stability and unity of the states from Nile to Euphrates are terrorists! And those who fight there are freedom wishers! To us, it is the opposite.

And once again, I say, never Iran supported terrorist groups in Iraq or Syria. But western governments and "Israel" does.

Wow, when Israel treats Syrians it is accused of treating terrorists and if it does nothing, it is accused of being heartless.