All My Journal Packets (Files)

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Are you the type of person who doesn't care about much?

My Reply: Yes. I also don't care what I watch on t.v. I said earlier I don't watch the news. But, if the t.v. was on the news channel, I'd watch it anyway, or just change the channel. It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Other Person's Response: I thought you said you loved to watch anime.

My Reply: I do. Sometimes though, I just don't care what I watch.

Other Person's Response: When you say you don't care about much, is it because you have thoughts of caring about many things, and these thoughts just can't make you feel any emotions? Or, is it because your way of thinking is that you just don't care about much?

My Reply: It's the latter. I just don't have the mindset of caring about a lot of things. So, the reason why I don't care about too many things isn't because I'm unable to feel emotions. Rather, it's because this is just the type of person I am. There are certain things I care about, such as composing, video games, etc. I also feel beauty and joy in regards to many stimuli, including going out in nature. That means I do care about those things. But, then there are things I just don't care about.

Other Person's Response: If you struggled with a complete absence of emotions, due to a mental illness, you wouldn't even care about video games, composing, or anything else.

My Reply: Correct. I wouldn't even care if my mother was brutally tortured. I need to feel bad about her suffering in order to care about her suffering. I'd also need to feel good about helping someone, or about my mother winning the lottery, in order to care about that.

Other Person's Response: It seems you're lacking in about almost everything. You have no intelligence, no life experience, and your abilities as a human being are very poor. Your reading comprehension is very poor, since you have a difficult time understanding many things, you can't understand what's going on in movies, and you need people to explain it to you in the most simple, coherent fashion that even a child can understand, the values you live by are very poor, shallow, and weak, your level of empathy is poor, you suck at many tasks, etc.

My Reply: A mental disability might be a major, contributing factor because I am a special needs person. As for my values, if positive emotions really are the only things that make life beautiful and good, then how could you describe my values as poor and weak? Describing them as such would imply there are greater values out there. But, if there's no greater values, then it would make no sense to describe my values as poor and weak.

Other Person's Response: Surprisingly, I thought your writing was very good, despite your mental handicap. Your spelling, punctuation, and grammar is very good. You are also very articulate and coherent.

My Reply: At first, I was making incoherent arguments that other people couldn't understand. It took a long time before I could successfully articulate my personal experience in a way people could understand.

Other Person's Response: I would've expected you to have gained a greater set of values through your whole struggle. If I suffered so much, and so horribly like you have, I would've learned that there's more to life than my own happiness.

My Reply: Well, each person is different, and not everyone who suffers learns the lesson you presented. Different people will learn different lessons. I've learned a lot through my own personal experience, and I'm sharing my insight as to why I think positive emotions truly are the only things that make life beautiful.

Other Person's Response: Then I'm afraid you've learned nothing through your struggles.

My Reply: If a Christian had an experience, and learned something, there'd be others who'd say that Christian learned nothing but nonsense. If a Buddhist had an experience, and learned something, others would also say the same thing. If any person in general had an experience, and learned something (such as that magnetic therapy, and crystals, have healing effects), others would also say the same thing.

Proponents (supporters) of magnetic therapy, and crystals, would agree with that person, while skeptics would say it's nonsense. As you can see, each person is unique. We all have different experiences, and we draw different conclusions. We also have our own unique religions. The religion I talk about in this packet is my own personal religion, as I mentioned earlier. My own personal experience has led me to this religion.

Other Person's Response: A person can go through much suffering in his life, but not gain any greater values. Your case would be an example. If you put a person through much suffering, would that all of a sudden make him a skilled basketball player, or dentist? No. He needs to actually train and educate himself in basketball, or dentistry, if he wants to be good at it. Likewise, putting you through much suffering, apparently, isn't helping you improve your value system. So, I think something more needs to be done. Maybe you just need some training and education in certain forms of therapy.

My Reply: I'm actually not sure what to do here. These have always been the values I've lived by.

Other Person's Response: I agree it's the fault of the creator, since he could've made this life a utopia for us all. Not only would you be happy your whole life, and not have to be miserable, but your mother could've also been rich, too.

My Reply: It seems life is even playing a cruel joke on her because she seems to be on the verge of winning money with the pick 3 numbers. But, she doesn't get the money. She actually won a few hundred dollars at one point. But, most of that money had to be taken out, due to an unfortunate turn of events. I bet even she'd be driven to the point of wanting to harm the creator.

Other Person's Response: Even if your mother did get the pick 3 numbers exactly right, that wouldn't win her millions of dollars. But, she'd definitely win some money.

My Reply: Yes. She already knows that. But, she thinks she can win the Power Ball someday, which would win her millions of dollars. I talk more about this later on.

Other Person's Response: I'm a spiritual believer, and I think your mother can definitely win some money if she has some good karma on her side. But, if she wishes to win millions, then that requires all the good karma in the world. Very few people win millions of dollars, after all.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: It seems your mother is having some bad karma in her life, since she's on the verge of winning some money with the Pick 3, but she doesn't win.

My Reply: Maybe it is bad karma. I realize life is a cruel joke for many people. So, maybe, life itself is just trying to **** her off by playing a cruel joke on her. If it's not life itself, then it would be any person, or spiritual entity, giving her bad karma.

Other Person's Response: Are you still hateful towards god, and wanting revenge, even when you're fully recovered from your emotional crisis?

My Reply: Actually, I'm not. I'm only violent and filled with hate in the midst of an emotional crisis. When I'm happy and enjoying my life, I let it pass, and don't care about it anymore. However, I can still think about how life is a cruel joke, and discuss it, even when I'm happy.

Other Person's Response: I don't agree the creator is a cruel prankster. Your suffering did serve a good purpose, even though you may not realize it.

My Reply: Then why didn't he bestow upon me this understanding, rather than having me go through bouts of rage and revenge?

Other Person's Response: Someone like you, who's so fixated and obsessed over his own happiness, will never understand the point of suffering. You'll never grow as a person, and see any greater value to life than your own happiness.

My Reply: I don't know if it's my own obsession blinding me or not.

Other Person's Response: Going back to your philosophy, nothing matters to me, and I don't value anything in my life. I just live life as it is. But, at least I've contributed to the world, and made the lives of others valuable.

My Reply: You're having a positive attitude about the lives of others having value. By having that attitude, you're already implying that the lives of others having value is something you value. So, your attitude would be contradicting your claim that you're not valuing anything. Therefore, you could be valuing things, such as contribution and giving to others, while being in denial of this. Or, you're not valuing anything at all, and you're just having an attitude that contradicts your claim.

Other Person's Response: I think the idea is to give up and transcend values. This is what the Buddhists would say.

My Reply: If these Buddhists say this with an attitude that implies there's something greater than value out there, then that's already implying there's greater value to life than value. So, I find that to be a contradiction. I realize the Buddhists have such an attitude in regards to their ways of life. So, by them having that attitude already implies they've never transcended values. In other words, they live by values.

Other Person's Response: You talk about magnetic healing rings in this packet. Instead of buying products that might not work, why not do the research to find out if they work or not?

My Reply: I realize some people would say they do work, while skeptics say they don't. But, searching for the truth as to whether they really do work or not would be a tedious, difficult task. So, it's best if I just buy the rings, and see if they work for me or not. They don't cost that much, anyway. Besides, I can't comprehend research, or material, written by skeptics, and other professionals. Not only that, I just have no passion for doing all this research.

Other Person's Response: Is there another reason why it's difficult for you to comprehend material written by people?

My Reply: It's because there are many ways to interpret something someone has written, and it's difficult for me to know which interpretation is the right one. Not only that, but I just have poor reading comprehension skills.

 

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Other Person's Response: I understand why you don't wish to do research. It's because there's so much material to read and comprehend.

My Reply: Yes. I just have no interest in this anyway.

Other Person's Response: Since you're intellectually weak, then you'll also be weak in terms of your character. After all, the prefrontal cortex is the intellectual area of the brain that's also responsible for our character. I think your character weakness is the very reason why you live by such shallow, weak values.

My Reply: I'm not sure. There might be no more value and worth to life than emotions.

Other Person's Response: I heard you have autism. Some autistic people are intellectual weak, and have a shallow character, due to their autism. For example, autistic, special needs people (such as yourself) are mentally hindered.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Some autistic people also lack emotional response to many things.

My Reply: Yes. That could explain why I lack interest in so many things, whether it be learning new things, what clothes my mother buys me, helping humanity and contributing to the world, etc.

Other Person's Response: I heard you have a mental disability. It seems you're not completely disabled, given that you can still write and articulate your points quite well.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: In regards to the rings, have you noticed any side effects when wearing these rings?

My Reply: I've been noticing I haven't been feeling hungry or thirsty for over a week while wearing them everyday. I also notice some muscle twitching from time to time. So, maybe, the rings are doing something. I'm not sure about this yet. Even though I don't feel hungry or thirsty, I still eat and drink anyway. I make sure I drink the amount of fluids I need, even though I don't feel thirsty, since your body needs fluids more than it needs food.

As to why I don't feel hungry or thirsty, maybe it's instead this worry having an effect on me. I talk more about the worry in this packet. Having too much worry and stress can have an effect on you physically. That would even include not feeling hungry or thirsty. Now, there are seldom occasions where I do feel hungry and thirsty. But, not too often. That means I'm not eating as much as I should. What's strange is that, normally, when I don't eat much, I feel low on energy. But, this time, I don't feel low on energy at all.

Other Person's Response: Any other symptom?

My Reply: Yes. I notice a bit more phlegm than usual. That might be the rings doing their healing because people report having more phlegm when using these rings. Then again, the phlegm could be something else going on. I'm not noticing anything healing on my body from these rings though. My stretch marks are still there, and wounds still take the normal amount of time to heal.

Other Person's Response: Are you sure something else isn't causing these symptoms?

My Reply: Maybe there is. So, maybe, it's not the rings.

Other Person's Response: Did you have these symptoms prior to using these rings?

My Reply: Come to think of it, maybe I did.

Other Person's Response: I know you're currently trying to decide if these rings work or not. One moment, you think they might be working. But, the next moment, you have your doubts.

My Reply: As of now, I'm actually leaning towards the possibility that they might be working, after all. I think I had a loss of hunger before using the rings. But, come to think of it, I don't think I had excessive phlegm and muscle twitching before using the rings. Also, when I continue to wear the rings, my feeling of hunger is chronically shut off, as opposed to the momentary absence of hunger I had before using the rings.

Other Person's Response: It could just be a placebo effect you're experiencing with these rings. Maybe your subconscious mind already knows that the feeling of hunger gets shut off when the body needs to heal. Since you want the healing effect of these rings to be real, then maybe your brain just shuts off your feeling of hunger, which convinces you the rings are working. It's a neuroscientific fact that the brain shuts off feelings of physical pain, which convinces people that a fake cure is working for them. So, all these symptoms you're having from these rings just might be a placebo effect, and nothing more.

My Reply: That could be. I really don't know, and I'll continue wearing the rings. I even read some of the symptoms from these rings before wearing them, which would be excessive phlegm, and twitching. So, it might be a placebo effect.

Other Person's Response: If these really were placebo effects you're having from these rings, then why would your feeling of hunger be shut off 24/7, for over a week, while you've worn the rings everyday? Also, why would you even be having those symptoms of excessive phlegm and muscle twitching? I don't think the brain can create such symptoms, which means I don't think they're placebo effects.

My Reply: Exactly.

Other Person's Response: How long has this absence of hunger been going on now?

My Reply: Over two weeks straight.

Other Person's Response: Have you lost a significant amount of weight, since you haven't been eating as much?

My Reply: Yes. I'm not an obese person losing weight. I'm an average, thin person losing weight. So, I'll try to eat the full 2 meals a day I usually eat to get my weight back up.

Other Person's Response: When you don't wear the rings for a while, does your feeling of hunger return?

My Reply: Yes. But, only after 2-3 days, or longer. Perhaps the effects of the rings are lingering on during that time and, once the effects have worn off, my feeling of hunger returns.

Other Person's Response: Did you ever have a moment where you felt hungry while wearing the rings?

My Reply: Yes. But, I think it was just once or twice. That feeling of hunger did linger on for a while, even while wearing the rings.

Other Person's Response: Maybe you should experiment more with these immortality rings to see if it's the rings causing your symptoms, such as your absence of hunger, or if something else is causing these symptoms. For example, if your feeling of hunger returns, but then shuts off when you wear the rings again, then just wear the rings for one minute. If your feeling of hunger returns shortly after you take the rings off, such as a few minutes, then repeat the experiment.

My Reply: I'll go ahead and perform that experiment when my feeling of hunger returns. So far, I've been wearing the rings many hours everyday, and I've taken them off after a week of wearing them. Since then, I've had this chronic absence of hunger that's lasted for many days now. I can't tell if this absence of hunger is caused by the rings or not. That's why I'll perform that experiment to find out. But, even if my feeling of hunger does repeatedly fade and return when performing this experiment, it could just be a placebo effect. So, my brain might be shutting off, and turning that feeling of hunger back on, just to try to convince me it's the rings working.

Other Person's Response: If these rings don't work for you, then don't bother buying Alex Chiu's more expensive products, such as the foot braces, or the cell realignment machine.

My Reply: It's said that some people need a healing boost. So, I will buy the foot braces if the rings don't work for me. If both the rings and foot braces don't work for me, then, chances are, the machine might not work either. So, I wouldn't buy the machine. Even if the machine did work, I don't need it yet, since it just cures handicaps, and doesn't cure aging.

Other Person's Response: Maybe you're experiencing these symptoms because your body is warming up.

My Reply: That could be. It might have nothing to do with the rings. Normally, when my body is warming up, I do feel tingling and twitching. But, I don't feel an absence of hunger though. So, I'm not sure if it's the rings or not. Maybe it is my body warming up, and having this worry causes an additional symptom to occur while my body is warming up, which would be an absence of hunger. After all, when you have stress and worry, that can cause additional symptoms to go along with bodily processes, such as your body warming up, cooling down, etc.

In addition, I notice I sometimes spontaneously feel sleepy. I don't know how to explain it, but it doesn't feel like normal sleepiness. Rather, it feels like something that's been artificially induced because it's not the type of sleepiness you'd get when you feel your body needs rest, and you're ready to go to bed, or take a nap. It sort of feels like a deep feeling of relaxation putting you to sleep, rather than a feeling of sleepiness putting you to sleep. I hear people do spontaneously feel sleepy when they use the rings. So, it might be the rings.

Other Person's Response: If that worry is causing your absence of hunger, then you might no longer have that absence of hunger when you wear the rings.

My Reply: Yes. Even if the rings are causing an absence of hunger, but only when that worry is present, then, once the worry is gone, the rings might no longer cause an absence of hunger.

Other Person's Response: Do you wear the rings when you have blankets over you? If so, your body warming up under the blankets might be causing your absence of hunger, and not the rings.

My Reply: Yes. So, maybe, it's just my body warming up.

 

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Other Person's Response: When your body warms up, do you normally feel sleepy, due to the increased blood flow?

My Reply: I don't think so. Therefore, maybe it's the rings causing me to feel a bit sleepy. People do report feeling sleepy with these rings.

Other Person's Response: I heard it's summer time for you now, and you're no longer using blankets. When your body is hot, do you feel sleepy? If so, it could be the heat making you sleepy, and not the rings.

My Reply: Yes. So, it might just be the heat.

Other Person's Response: Maybe having that worry causes an additional symptom to occur when your body is warming up, which would be feeling sleepy.

My Reply: That could be. So, again, it might not be the rings.

Other Person's Response: Do people report not feeling hungry when they wear these rings?

My Reply: I'm not sure. I don't know if I've read that or not.

Other Person's Response: When you don't feel hungry while wearing the rings, do you still have a growling stomach?

My Reply: Yes. But, I still eat some food, even though I don't feel hungry.

Other Person's Response: I heard that some people, who use these rings, get the minimal healing benefits from them. Even so, these people should still be healing faster than they're aging, as long as they wear these rings. It's just going to take much longer for these people to look younger, as opposed to the types of people who get the maximum healing benefits from the rings.

My Reply: That means I'd just have to be very patient if I get the minimal healing benefits from the rings. I wonder if some people don't get any healing benefits at all though.

Other Person's Response: If the skeptics are wrong when they say magnetic therapy doesn't work, then maybe they're also wrong about there being no afterlife.

My Reply: Yes. I realize there are professional skeptics, and I wouldn't call them dumb if they're wrong, given that they are professionals. Instead, they'd just have a big misunderstanding. Professionals debate all sorts of topics, and one side could be right, while another could be wrong.

Other Person's Response: The Chinese are the founders of magnetic therapy, aren't they? Well, they're intelligent people, and many products we see in America have been invented by them.

My Reply: Yes. Maybe magnetic therapy is a good, working invention that skeptics just deny and dismiss.

Other Person's Response: I'm not sure those magnetic rings stop and reverse aging. But, they might allow you to live a little bit longer.

My Reply: I hope they do stop and reverse aging.

Other Person's Response: Even if these rings do stop and reverse aging, they still don't protect you from fatal events, such as getting shot by a gun, or being ran over by a car. That means you won't live millions of years with these rings, since a fatal event is bound to happen to you sooner or later.

My Reply: But, maybe, I'll at least live to be 800 years old before a fatal event happens to me. I'll be thankful for that. But, I might live long enough with these rings to the point where true immortality will be invented, where people literally get to live all they want to, and don't have to worry about any fatal event happening to them. In which case, I'd upgrade from these rings to this new, immortality-based technology. That is, if it's affordable.

Other Person's Response: Since these rings won't protect you from fatal events, then you'd better be kind to people, and not get yourself into fights or gangs.

My Reply: Yes. Being injured would increase my risk of dying, since it would give me health problems. The rings might heal these health problems though. Still, I'm not going to get myself into trouble. I've never been that type of person anyway. I've always been kind and respectful to people.

Other Person's Response: Does your mom sometimes have people over at the house who are potentially threatening?

My Reply: Yes. I feel fear because I might be unnecessarily involved in a fight, even though I'm a polite, kind person who gives nobody problems.

Other Person's Response: I heard you have bowel issues, such as bleeding and constipation. If these rings really work to cure diseases, and make you live long, then they should cure your bowel issues.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Did you let anyone else in your family know about these rings? Don't you want them to live a long life?

My Reply: I told my mother about them, and she plans on getting herself a pair someday. I also told her about the Chinese, how intelligent they are, and that they're the founders of magnetic therapy. That made her much more inclined to purchase these rings. I don't know if my younger brother is getting a pair for himself, since he's not convinced of magnetic therapy. But, my mother told me to not tell my grandma about them, since she's a cruel person who deserves to die.

Other Person's Response: I heard your mother wants grandma to die, so that she can sell her house to gain money.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Much later on in this packet, you talk even more about these rings.

My Reply: Yes. My most recent updates with these rings are being discussed right here, while my past updates are discussed later on.

Other Person's Response: I heard there's a certain way you're supposed to wear these rings because, if you wear them the wrong way, they can make you ill, rather than heal your body.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Do these rings fit you?

My Reply: Yes. There's a way to adjust the rings to make them fit. You're supposed to wear them on both pinkies, and not on any other finger. Also, when my hands warm up under the blankets during the cold season, that causes my fingers to inflame a little bit, which makes the rings fit even more.

Other Person's Response: Do you experience any other symptoms while wearing these rings?

My Reply: Yes, and they'd be two more symptoms, which would be tingling and insomnia. Not only does my feeling of hunger get shut off when I wear these rings, but my ability to feel sleepy also gets shut off. I do get some sleep. So, I don't have chronic insomnia. But, I sometimes find myself awake, and not being able to sleep. These are new symptoms I'm having, which I never had before I wore the rings.

Other Person's Response: Even if you did have chronic insomnia from these rings, surely your body wouldn't allow you to die of sleep deprivation. So, maybe, you'd eventually feel extremely sleepy, which would force you to sleep, so that you don't die.

My Reply: I'm not sure about that. Maybe that feeling of extreme sleepiness would be there as some sort of emergency response to force me to sleep. Then again, that response might not occur.

Other Person's Response: Since you don't feel hungry and thirsty when wearing these rings, I'm quite sure you'd eventually get a strong hunger or thirst hunger response in an emergency situation, where your body absolutely needed something to eat or drink.

My Reply: That could be. I noticed my urine was dark yellow, and I didn't feel thirsty when I should've felt thirsty. I hadn't drank anything for a little while, since I didn't feel thirsty for a while. So, I decided to drink some water, even though I didn't feel thirsty because I knew that dark urine is a sign your body needs fluids. Just because you don't feel thirsty doesn't mean your body doesn't need fluids.

Other Person's Response: Is your feeling of hunger returning by now?

My Reply: No. But, my feeling of thirst has returned.

Other Person's Response: Do you get nights of full sleep with the rings?

My Reply: Yes. But, there were those moments where I couldn't sleep.

Other Person's Response: If these rings did pose health problems for you, would you still use them?

My Reply: Yes, since they're my one and only shot at stopping, and even reversing, my aging. I heard there are other things out there, which claim to make you immortal. But, these are just mystical products, and I'm not sure there's claimed scientific evidence for them, or strong anecdotes. I talk about strong anecdotes soon enough.

Other Person's Response: Is it possible to wear the rings too much? Isn't too much of a good thing a bad thing?

My Reply: I think no harm is done if a person wears the rings all day everyday. Even Alex Chiu (the maker of these rings) said a user can do this. Also, I do wear the rings mostly throughout the day. But, there are moments where I have to take off the rings, such as when I brush my teeth, take a shower, or eat messy foods. I'm not supposed to get the rings wet or messy, since that would ruin them, cause them to rust, and make them less effective. I also take the rings off when I go out in public, or when I go to the gym to walk on the treadmill. I don't want the rings to get attached to metal when I'm out in the community, and I don't want them to ruin any electronics I may come across when I'm in stores.

Other Person's Response: Why didn't you discover these magnetic healing rings when you were younger? Younger people, who use them, get more benefit than older people.

My Reply: At least I discovered them when I was 30 years old,

 

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as opposed to 85 years old. I later asked myself the question if there was a way I could greatly extend my life. That's when I discovered these healing rings, and decided to purchase them. It's said that old people have irreversible damage that can't be healed by the rings, and that younger people are better off using them before it's too late. Elderly people will get some healing. But, not the full amount. They might get full healing if they use Gorgeous Pill when using the rings. Gorgeous Pill is a powder that increases the healing power of the rings to a vast degree. At least, that's what's been claimed.

Other Person's Response: Many people don't know about these healing rings, they grow old, and die. Even people who do know about them sometimes end up knowing about them when they're elderly. So, I'm glad you discovered them while you're still a young man.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I heard that people, who meet god during their near death experience, report that committing suicide is a wrongdoing. Let's pretend you did get to live thousands of years with these rings, but you no longer wanted to live this Earthly life, and wanted to go back to heaven (which is said to be our true home). Shouldn't god see it as justified for you to end your life, so your soul can go back to heaven?

My Reply: Why wouldn't he? But, I don't know if god and the afterlife exist anyway. So, I'm going to live the longest, happiest, Earthly life I can.

Other Person's Response: If the Christian god is real, then these immortality rings would allow sinners to live a sinful, Earthly life all they want to, without having to worry about being condemned on Judgment Day anytime soon.

My Reply: Yes. Hopefully, the fundamentalist Christian god isn't real because I think that's a cruel, unloving god.

Other Person's Response: If sinners could literally be immortal on Earth, where absolutely nothing could kill them, then they wouldn't have to worry about being condemned on Judgment Day at all.

My Reply: Yes. But, I don't believe in this whole idea that we're sinners who must repent, or we go to hell.

Other Person's Response: From a purely naturalistic point of view, these rings do not work, since magnetic therapy is a hoax, this is the only life we have, and there is no god. But, if these rings do work, then maybe these naturalists are wrong. Perhaps there is an afterlife, a god, and we have souls that live on after the death of our physical bodies.

My Reply: It would be great if this wasn't the only life, and I could live in a heavenly afterlife, in addition to living a long, happy life here on Earth. But, is it possible the rings can work, but the naturalistic worldview still being true in regards to there being no god, soul, or afterlife? Can magnetic therapy really work in a purely naturalistic, materialistic worldview?

Other Person's Response: People were wrong when they thought all the neurons we had were the ones we're born with. So, maybe, skeptics are wrong when they say this is the only life we have. I think science will eventually progress to the point where these skeptics will be proven wrong, just as how science has progressed to the point where that notion about neurons was proven wrong.

My Reply: That could be.

Other Person's Response: The black rings, which are the ones you said you're using, are said to be more powerful than the white ones. Many users can't handle the black rings, since they're so strong. That's why they have to wear the white ones first before using the black ones. The very fact these black rings aren't overwhelming for you must mean you're not getting the maximum effects from these rings because, if you did, then you'd be having strong, overbearing symptoms, such as feeling a rush of energy through your body, and having pain.

My Reply: I'm not having any of these strong symptoms, even though I'm using the black rings before purchasing the white ones. So, maybe, I'm not getting the maximum healing benefits from these rings. But, I will purchase the white ones, just in case they do give me more healing benefits, for whatever reason.

Other Person's Response: Since the black rings are more powerful, that means they're more expensive than the white ones. I heard the black ones are supposed to make you look young very quick, in a matter of weeks, if you were to wear them 8 hours a day.

My Reply: Well, I'm wearing them all day everyday, and it's been over 2 weeks. I looked in the mirror, and I don't look younger one bit. Neither are my stretch marks being healed. So, I might be getting the minimal healing benefits from the rings. I already know my body's healing process is slowed down because cuts take much longer to heal than normal.

I've had this issue before purchasing and using the rings. I think it's this worry I'm having that has hampered my body's healing process. After all, constant stress and worry does affect your body, which means it does hinder certain processes in the body. So, once I'm fully recovered from this worry, maybe my body's full healing ability will be restored. Thus, I might get the full healing benefits from the rings.

Other Person's Response: Before you purchased the rings, did some areas of your body have a good rate of healing, while other areas were slow to heal?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: So, your mind might need to heal first before your body can get healing from these rings?

My Reply: Correct. That misery-inducing worry might need to fully resolve first. Then, I might start getting the healing benefits from the rings.

Other Person's Response: Have your stretch marks faded at all, after using these rings?

My Reply: No. Not one bit.

Other Person's Response: Are the effects of the rings supposed to linger on, even after the user takes them off?

My Reply: Yes. I think they linger on for quite a while. The longer the user wears them, the longer the effects linger on after the user takes them off.

Other Person's Response: Did you order yourself a bottle of Gorgeous Pill yet?

My Reply: I did. But, I didn't notice any healing, since I didn't look younger at all. The bottle is almost empty. So, I saved the remaining powder because perhaps I'm not getting the healing benefits of Gorgeous Pill, and I should wait until I'm fully recovered from this worry, so I can.

Other Person's Response: Are you sure you followed the instructions on the bottle when you used it?

My Reply: Yes. I even laid down long enough for the Gorgeous Pill healing, as instructed.

Other Person's Response: If you do get to live a very long life with these rings, that means you'll get to play all the future Mario and Zelda games.

My Reply: Yes. I'll also get to play many more new video games. People, who die of old age, won't get to play the future Mario and Zelda games, or any other future video game for that matter.

Other Person's Response: If these rings make you live long, you can regain all those years of your life that were wasted, due to your miserable struggles.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I think aging is a completely natural process. Why stop it by using these immortality rings? It's unnatural to never age!

My Reply: Well, I obviously want to live the longest, happiest life I can live. That desire is completely natural. So, it's completely natural to want to be immortal. That's why you hear so many people say they'd prefer to be immortal, to always be happy, and not have any suffering in their lives. Also, I don't think aging is a natural process, since it's a disease like any other. All diseases are something going wrong with the body or brain, and aging is no different.

Other Person's Response: In the distant future, we might be able to achieve humanity's dream of living a utopia world, where there's no more disease, suffering, aging, or unhappiness.

My Reply: Yes. As a matter of fact, many people might find themselves living by a hedonistic philosophy, since people living in a utopia world might think being happy, and free of suffering, is what makes life beautiful. The future might, thus, have a lot of pleasure junkies. Who knows, hedonism might even become a religion in the future.

Other Person's Response: If these immortality rings don't work, and this is the only life you have, how would you feel about that?

My Reply: I'd feel disappointed. But, that feeling would pass. If you've ever heard the saying "You can't have your cake and eat it, too," then that quote would apply to me because, if I had the choice, I'd choose to live a happy life that never ends. It would be no different than a child who never wants the fun rides at the carnival to end. I'm basically here in this life for the fun, joyful ride/adventure, and I don't want it to ever end. If it was a miserable, unhappy, or apathetic existence that dragged on and on, then I'd want that existence to end. But, as long as it's a happy life, then I'd want it to last forever.

Other Person's Response: If these rings don't work, then the skeptics might've been right all along when they say magnetic therapy doesn't work. So, would you think the skeptics might also be right when they say there's no afterlife?

My Reply: Well, maybe the rings are really working for other people, and just didn't work for me, for whatever reason. I have read reports of people saying that these rings have never worked for them, even when they've worn them for a very long time (years even). Magnetic therapy is a debatable topic anyway. So, I have to remain undecided on it, just as how I have to remain undecided on the existence of the afterlife.

Other Person's Response: If these rings don't work for you, then I think there's another opportunity ahead of you for immortality. A technological revolution is on the horizon and, by the year 2050, it's said that immortality will be invented. Nanobots, which are said to cure diseases, including aging, are said to be invented during this time.

My Reply: I hope that's true then. Unfortunately, amazing things are claimed to be invented sometime in the future. But, when that time comes, those things haven't been invented. It was nothing more than hype for something that was never to come.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Don't purchase those nanobots until you know they're safe and effective.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I actually heard that the year 2030 is when aging will be cured and reversed, and that the year 2050 is when human beings will literally be immortal, where nothing can kill them. Billions of dollars is being poured into research that would discover the cure for aging, and a way to make humans immortal. I think it will happen soon.

My Reply: I hope that's so. If this cure for aging is found in the year 2030, then I hope I can afford it. In the meantime, I'm going to use these immortality rings to stop and reverse my aging. If they don't work, then I hope I can get my hands on that cure. But, if I become an old man, and no cure for aging is found yet, then that would be disappointing.

Other Person's Response: I heard your mother is getting a Home Equity Loan. So, perhaps you could save the money from that loan to buy this cure for aging?

My Reply: Yes. The cure might cost a lot of money, and I'd be willing to save for it.

Other Person's Response: If nanobots are invented, which can cure diseases, including aging, and you buy them, then if you were to develop any mental illness that takes away your ability to feel positive emotions, then I think the nanobots would cure that illness, too. So, if you developed clinical depression, then the nanobots would cure it.

My Reply: That would be wonderful because not only would I get to live the long life I want to live, but I'd also get to have my positive emotions intact. My desire is to live the longest, happiest life I can live, and these nanobots would grant me that. But, if I were to have brain damage that causes me to lose my positive emotions, would the nanobots fix that up as well?

Other Person's Response: Even though you might be able to afford the cure for aging in the year 2030 with your mother's money, I don't think you'd be able to afford to make yourself literally immortal in 2050, since you'd have to be very rich. I think you'd need millions of dollars. Highly advanced technology would be required to make you immortal, and that's why it would cost so much money. But, as for the cure for aging, that just might be a pill, or something else. Thus, it would be nowhere near as expensive as making yourself immortal.

My Reply: I think you're right, and I'd be alright with this. As long as I could live a very long life by curing my aging, then that's good enough for me. I don't think I have to really worry about any fatal events happening to me, such as getting shot by a gun, since, for the most part, I live in a safe place. Still, a fatal event is bound to happen to me, and just curing my aging won't prevent me from being killed by said event. So, if I had millions of dollars, I'd definitely make myself immortal in 2050.

Other Person's Response: If the cure for aging really is found in 2030, and you purchase it, then I think you're required to give up having children, in order to prevent overpopulation. If you don't abide by this rule, then you won't get anymore pills to keep you young. In other words, you'll be allowed to age like any normal person.

My Reply: I'd be perfectly alright with this. Besides, I never wanted a wife and child anyway. I just don't care, and don't want to have the responsibilities. Neither would I be willing to give up those pills in order to be a father, and take care of a child. Also, I didn't realize a person would have to continually treat himself to keep himself young. I thought you just take something once, and your aging is officially cured and reversed for good.

Other Person's Response: So, you're someone who doesn't want to put up with the problems of having a wife and child? Are you someone who prefers to live alone, so nobody can give you any problems?

My Reply: Yes. But, I'm just fine living with my mother and brother, since they give me no problems. As for my dad, even though he'd give me no problems, he lives somewhere else.

Other Person's Response: What if a cure for aging isn't found in the year 2030, but something, such as a pill, that could extend your life by 50 years?

My Reply: Then I'd get that. Who knows, in that extra 50 years, a cure for aging might be found. In which case, I'd get that as well. So, if I lived to be 140 years old, the cure for aging might be discovered by then.

Other Person's Response: I heard that there will be a way to replace our organs with lab grown organs, and that this is going to happen very soon. As a matter of fact, I think it's going to happen in 5 years. It's the year 2019 now. So, by 2024, I think this will happen.

My Reply: If I had the choice, I'd get that done if it was my only option left to extend my life. When my body grows old, and I need my organs replaced, then I'd do that. That is, if I can afford it.

Other Person's Response: Let me make something clear for you. There are two definitions of immortality. The 1st would be where a person can never age, but still dies from fatal events, such as getting shot by a gun. The 2nd definition would be where a person can't die at all. There are some organisms that are immortal (according to the 1st definition). An example would be jellyfish. Since jellyfish are immortal, and human beings are more evolved than jellyfish, then why aren't humans immortal? Humans have an amazing organ, known as the brain, which is something jellyfish don't have, since humans are more evolved. So, why don't we have bodies that are also immortal, to go along with our amazing brains? Our bodies have a measly lifespan of 80-90 years, and it baffles me.

My Reply: I'm not sure. If something is more evolved, you'd certainly expect something better. That's why I'd expect humans to have amazing, immortal bodies that could regenerate lost limbs, and do other remarkable, biological things. So, I'd expect humans to have bodies that are even better than those of jellyfish. Another example would be tardigrades. These are microscopic organisms that can withstand extreme conditions. Since humans are more evolved than tardigrades, then why can't humans also withstand such conditions?

Other Person's Response: I see what you mean. Technology today is more evolved (better) than what it was many years ago. So, why do humans have bodies that aren't more evolved (better) than the bodies of those organisms that came before us (tardigrades and jellyfish)? Sure, our bodies have certain features these organisms don't have. But, I'm curious as to why we just have bodies that live, grow old, sick, and die? I'd actually consider the bodies of tardigrades and jellyfish to be better than those of humans, since the human body is so fragile, and prone to disease.

My Reply: I'm not sure. But, a science teacher could answer this question. I'll admit, it does seem absurd, since it makes humans look like less evolved creatures in terms of a physical body.

Other Person's Response: Since survival is the goal of evolution, then why aren't humans immortal? That would allow humans to survive indefinitely, until some event happens, such as the Earth blowing up, which would also kill all the jellyfish.

My Reply: I'm not sure. Humans always complain how 80-90 years just isn't long enough to live, and that they'd rather live much longer, so they can play all the video games that come out, witness all the new technology that will be invented, etc. So, I'm not sure why evolution didn't work in the favor of humans by bestowing them with immortality.

Other Person's Response: Well, you can't expect life, or evolution, to work in your favor. Some things in life are just plain unfair.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Are you convinced of evolution?

My Reply: Actually, I'm undecided on it, since it's a debatable topic.

Other Person's Response: There are also many people who don't want to live long lives. They say 80-90 years is enough.

My Reply: These people must not have much passion for life then. Most people wish to live much longer than that. Even for thousands of years. Many also wish to live forever, since people always discuss if there's any hope of technology in the future that will allow humans to literally live forever.

Other Person's Response: When you don't have your positive emotions, you have no passion for life at all, right?

My Reply: That's right. It's that positive drive to live that gives me that passion. When I'm apathetic or miserable, I don't want to do any of my hobbies, and it's no way to live or be an artist.

Other Person's Response: In regards to these magnetic healing rings, perhaps people are getting healing benefits when they wear them. But, it might have nothing to do with the rings, and the rings might not work at all. People might be healing their bodies through the power of their minds. When they believe their bodies will be healed by anything, whether it be rings, or certain treatments, it's the belief itself that causes people to be healed.

My Reply: I'm not sure about this.

Other Person's Response: If humans dying of old age is meant for our physical bodies to die, so our souls can leave our bodies, go back to heaven, or reincarnate into a new body, then why must death be a physically painful process, where our organs fail, due to old age? God could've made our bodies ageless, and our bodies just automatically die a peaceful, painless death when our time is up here on Earth. Or, better yet, the soul could just automatically leave the ageless body when the person's time is up, with no need for the body to die first.

My Reply: I'm not sure. I would've expected an all-loving god to do something like this, rather than allowing humans to go through a painful dying process. So, it could be the case there's no god, and this is the only life.

Other Person's Response: If dying of old age is really meant for our souls to leave our bodies, then finding a way to make humans immortal in the future would defeat that purpose. It would go against god's will of having our souls enter back into heaven, or reincarnating into a new body, since a human being would be able to live a single life indefinitely.

My Reply: Yes. Why would god go against his own will by allowing humans to invent technology that would make us immortal in the future? Why wouldn't god use his destructive power, and wipe out all that technology? Or, god could allow such technology to exist, but cause their souls to automatically enter heaven when their time is up on Earth.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Yes. It seems absurd for god to go against his own will. Therefore, god must not exist then.

My Reply: You could be right, and this might be the only life, too. I could also say the same thing about these heavenly, spiritual beings. Since they'd be going against their will, then they might not exist either.

Other Person's Response: If there was a way to make humans immortal, and the Earth blew up, then humans would just be stranded in space, since they'd survive. The jellyfish would die if the Earth blew up, since they're immortal only in terms of aging. But, if humans were literally immortal, they'd survive in space.

My Reply: But, I'm sure intelligent scientists already have that figured out, and would create a solution for this, if technology can literally make humans immortal in the future.

Other Person's Response: If this is the only life you have, and you only get to live to be 80-90 years, then don't be too disappointed about that because life doesn't always meet our expectations.

My Reply: Sure. But, if I'm not a special, immortal, spiritual being in this universe, and I'm just a biological machine with such a finite existence, then I'm nothing more than something to be disposed of. I'm something that lingers on for a little while, just to be "thrown away" (to rot and decay). This universe doesn't care about me, and I'd be insignificant.

Other Person's Response: Well, if you felt great about yourself, despite your lifespan being only 80-90 years, then you'd see yourself as great. You wouldn't be seeing yourself as something insignificant.

My Reply: Yes. Right now, I don't feel that way about myself, since I'm still not fully recovered from this misery-inducing worry. But, I'm sure I'll feel that way about myself once I'm happy again, and I don't know if this is the only life I have though.

Other Person's Response: Would you see others as being insignificant if all human beings are just here to live a little while, and die?

My Reply: Yes. But, like I said, I'd no longer feel that way when I'm happy, and I have a whole new perspective when I'm happy.

Other Person's Response: If you realized this was the only life you're going to get, and you'd only live to be 80-90 years, sure, you'd feel a bit disappointed at first. But, wouldn't you then experience a more profound form of beauty, worth, and joy in your life, since you know it's the only life you got? Wouldn't it be a more profound experience than the positive experience you'd get from being convinced that you'll get to live on forever in the blissful afterlife of your dreams?

My Reply: I don't think so. As a matter of fact, I think I'd have the more profound, positive experience from being convinced I get to live the eternal, blissful afterlife of my dreams, since that's the dream life I'd want to live. If this was the only life I had, then, like I said, that wouldn't be as great as living an eternal, blissful afterlife, since I'd only get so much positive experiences out of life before I die, rot, and decay. The same thing applies if this is the only life I have, and not being able to live said life for thousands, or even millions of years. If I could only live 80-90 years, then I wouldn't be getting as much joy out of life.

Other Person's Response: Do you have an emotional conviction in some things?

My Reply: Yes. I do feel that certain claims are real. But, I'd have to remind myself that my conviction would be irrational, and to try to think rationally.

Other Person's Response: Since you really wish to know if the afterlife exists or not, then that means you just don't give into the arguments skeptics make, and become convinced that there is no afterlife.

My Reply: Yes. That's why I try to be rational, and keep an open mind. But, I've given up on trying to discover the truth, since I'm no good at this.

Other Person's Response: I personally find the naturalistic, skeptical worldview to be utter crap. People live, grow old, and die without being convinced of an afterlife, or these immortality rings. But, you're deciding to use these rings, and you consider the possibility that there might be an afterlife.

My Reply: Yes. I might live a very long, healthy life, unlike these skeptics, who'd just grow old, and die. Hopefully, there will be an afterlife for them.

Other Person's Response: Since you love anime, then I might as well say you're like the villains Frieza and Vegeta from the anime Dragon Ball Z, since you seek immortality, and these characters also seek immortality.

My Reply: I don't think I'm like these characters, since my motives are different, I have a different personality than they do, and I'm a decent person who doesn't harm anyone else. I'm not a psychopath, seeking immortality. Rather, I'm just someone who wishes to live a long, happy life, doing the hobbies I love, and experiencing beauty of moments, things, and situations.

Other Person's Response: I think it would be a joke to compare you to the characters Vegeta and Frieza because you're a shallow, weak person, unlike these characters, who are amazing, powerful villains.

My Reply: Right.

Other Person's Response: I heard you want to live a very long life with these rings. If so, then you're better off developing a better philosophy because, without your positive emotions, then a long life would be a dull, empty, worthless existence. If you had a better philosophy, then a long life would instead be a beautiful and worthwhile existence to you.

My Reply: Sure. But, I don't think my philosophy can change. So, hopefully, I'll have my positive emotions intact from now on, and won't be put in a position where changing my philosophy is necessary. I mean, I'd certainly try to change my philosophy if it's necessary. But, I can't promise it would change.

Other Person's Response: Maybe the reason why these rings aren't working for you is because you have an imbalance in your chakra. Your hedonistic philosophy clearly indicates this imbalance, since it's mentally unbalanced to seek positive emotions as though they're the only things that make life beautiful and worth living.

My Reply: I'm not sure if that's it. The skeptics could be right when they say these rings don't work, and the idea of chakra being fake.

Other Person's Response: The claim that those magnetic rings work would be no different than any wild claim out there, such as Bigfoot.

My Reply: There are certain anecdotes that really make one wonder whether a given claim could be true. For example, people, who've used these rings, claim their scars have been healed. That really makes me wonder if these rings work. There are also other testimonies that really make me wonder if they work. So, certain anecdotes are weak, and can be dismissed, while others make a person wonder if a certain claim could be true.

Other Person's Response: I agree there are strong anecdotes, and weak anecdotes. If a certain medicine, which has much skepticism, was claimed to heal headaches, a person took it, and his headache went away, then that would be a weak anecdote, since his headache might've just went away on its own. Thus, it would be an anecdote that can be dismissed.

But, if there are anecdotes, such as people having their scars healed once they wear these magnetic rings, then they would be strong anecdotes because it's likely it was the rings healing the person. I mean, how else could a person's scars fade away on their own? Therefore, strong anecdotes are worth taking into consideration, unlike weak anecdotes. Strong anecdotes have a much more likelihood than weak anecdotes.

My Reply: Exactly. If a certain product is debated as to whether it works or not, and said product has a load of weak anecdotes, then said product really isn't worth bothering with. But, if a debatable product has a load of strong anecdotes to support it (such as these magnetic rings), then said product is really worth taking into consideration.

Even if the product has no solid, scientific evidence, but has a lot of strong anecdotes to support it, then it's likely the product must work. Again, that likelihood wouldn't be near 100% because only much supporting scientific evidence can give a product such validity that it works. Still, strong anecdotes are 2nd in status to scientific evidence. That means they definitely give a product, or claim, some level of validity/support.

Other Person's Response: What if there were only few strong anecdotes to support a given product?

My Reply: Then the product wouldn't really be worth taking into consideration. There must be numerous strong anecdotes.

Other Person's Response: When a product, or claim, has claimed scientific evidence, in addition to a lot of strong anecdotes, does that make said product, or claim, much more worthy of being taken into consideration?

My Reply: Yes. That means it shouldn't just be dismissed.

Other Person's Response: You're wrong about weak versus strong anecdotes. ALL anecdotes can be dismissed!

My Reply: I'm not so sure.

Other Person's Response: There are anecdotes that support reincarnation, since there are many children reporting past lives. This research has been conducted by Jim Tucker and Ian Stevenson. I personally think these are strong anecdotes, and not just weak ones that can be dismissed. I mean, if these were weak, dismissable anecdotes, then why would the researchers even bother taking them into such high consideration? It must mean it's because they're strong anecdotes, worthy of such regard. I think the skeptics dismiss these anecdotes because they don't ask themselves the question: "Sure, it's not official that reincarnation is a real phenomenon. But, given these anecdotes, how likely is it that reincarnation is real? Well, it seems likely, given the strong anecdotes."

My Reply: Exactly. Just because any given claim doesn't have a likelihood that's 99.9% doesn't mean said claim should be dismissed. As long as a claim has a significant likelihood of being true, such as 50%, then said claim is worthy of high consideration. Even though we might not be able to measure likelihood, we can go by our own intuition in determining how likely something is to be true. That's why the researchers give such consideration to reincarnation, since their expertise leads them to the conclusion that reincarnation is very likely to be real. They say the skeptical arguments are very weak and, thus, they don't pose a good, naturalistic explanation for these phenomenon.

Other Person's Response: Do you know if claims, such as reincarnation, magnetic therapy, and the afterlife, are likely to be real or not?

My Reply: I honestly don't know. Skeptics say all anecdotes, no matter what they are, can be dismissed, and that there is no real scientific evidence for these claims. So, even though I don't know, I'm still making a point here when I say that, maybe, these claims do have a strong likelihood of being true, and that skeptics just dismiss them.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: I think there is much scientific evidence to support magnetic therapy.

My Reply: Skeptics would argue that there is no scientific evidence to support magnetic therapy. So, I'm not sure. The skeptics could be right. Then again, there might really be scientific evidence that the skeptics are just denying.

Other Person's Response: Could you give me a link that shows all these strong anecdotes that support the healing benefits of these magnetic rings?

My Reply: Sure. I think there are many strong anecdotes:

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Other Person's Response: If I scroll all the way to the bottom on that page of testimonials, then the 2nd to last testimonial is an interesting one, since there's an old, Chinese man with white hair, who now looks younger with black hair, after using the rings and foot braces.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: I think skeptics have too high of a standard of evidence, which renders them dismissing good, supporting evidence for magnetic therapy, including evidence for the afterlife.

My Reply: That could be. When you have a very high standard, you tend to dismiss good works of art, good evidence, etc.

Other Person's Response: You're a weak, shallow, worthless, pathetic, utter joke of a human being! Why should immortality be granted to someone like you?

My Reply: It's because I think I'm a decent human being just the way I am, and people should accept and appreciate me for who I am. People just need to lower their standards. I think I deserve to live an eternal, blissful life (if such a life existed). I also talk about immortality rings in this packet.

Other Person's Response: Well then, make sure you live in a safe neighborhood if you want to live a long life with these rings!

My Reply: I agree. My neighborhood is a bit unsafe though. My mother, along with everyone else in the family, will, hopefully, be in a safer neighborhood, once it's our time to move to a new home.

Other Person's Response: I heard one person say you're an utter joke of a human being, and that immortality isn't something you'd deserve. I think these people only judge based on factors, such as how intelligent you are, and how much talent you have. I bet, if you were a very intelligent person with much talent, that person would be saying you deserve immortality. But, there's more to being human than how intelligent you are, how popular you are, how much money or talent you have, etc. So, I think that person just needs to appreciate qualities about you, such as the fact that you're kind, polite, you don't harm anyone else, you keep to yourself, etc.

My Reply: Exactly. That person should be saying I deserve immortality, just because I possess these qualities.

Other Person's Response: Here's my personal view. I think we're spiritual beings who are loved by higher, spiritual entities (although, it may not seem that way to you, and to many others). These higher entities love you, appreciate you, are accepting of you, and would think you're deserving of an eternal, blissful life. It would be tragic, from their point of view, if we were finite beings who live, breath, die, and that's it.

My Reply: I can only hope you're right. It doesn't seem like these beings even exist. If they do, then they don't care about me, since they allow so much suffering.

Other Person's Response: If you didn't have your positive emotions, but could obtain the eternal, blissful life of your dreams right now, then wouldn't that have value and worth to you?

My Reply: It still wouldn't. Nonetheless, I'd still choose to do whatever I needed to do to obtain that dream life. Like I said, I can still make choices, just from the idea of benefits or consequences in my mind, regardless of how I feel.

Other Person's Response: Personally, I wouldn't want to live an eternally blissful life. Life needs to end sometime.

My Reply: I'd want to. The more beauty and joy I experience, the more I'm getting out of life. The more, the better. If a person earned a certain amount of money per day, then all that money would add up to a great amount after many years.

Likewise, if I were to live an eternally blissful life, then all that beauty and joy would add up to a huge amount, and it would continue to increase more and more for infinity.

Therefore, an eternally blissful life would offer me the greatest possible amount of beauty, love, joy, goodness, etc. It would literally be the greatest life I could possibly live. It would be even better if said life granted my every wish because that would bring me even more positive emotions.

Other Person's Response: I heard you'd want to live forever in the eternal, blissful afterlife of your dreams. But, living forever in bliss might turn out to be hell for you. You might go bored or insane.

My Reply: It wouldn't matter if I was doing the same things over and over again, or revisiting the same places again and again. As long as I'm feeling positive emotions from doing those things, then my life can only be beautiful, and I would never grow tired of it. Given this, you can see why this Earthly life of 80-90 years is not enough for me. As long as I'm happy and having fun, then I'd want to live forever. I would be like Dora the Explorer who wishes to be happy, and live a fun, adventurous life.

Other Person's Response: When you feel disgust towards others, and feel like harming them during your miserable moments, do you later regret it after you've fully recovered?

My Reply: Yes. But, during my miserable struggles, I don't really feel regret. I just feel violent. As a matter of fact, I felt extreme violence during my miserable struggles. I felt like vaporizing myself, along with this entire universe. There were certain people I hated, and I felt like they should be vaporized. But, as for the rest of humanity, I didn't care about them. I didn't hate them, and neither could I love them, since love is a positive emotion, and I didn't have my positive emotions during these miserable struggles.

Instead, I just felt like destroying literally everything, along with myself. I had no regard for my life, or the lives of others, and I became an overly dramatic, dangerous person on the inside. But, like I said, I didn't act out on that emotion one bit. Once I've recovered, I found myself asking: "How could I have wanted to destroy this beautiful Earth and universe?" I also found myself asking: "How could I have wanted to harm my mother? She's beautiful, innocent, and she doesn't deserve it!"

Actually, I know why I felt violent towards her during my miserable struggles. It's because the slightest thing can trigger a feeling of rage during these struggles. If someone has a bit of a stern personality towards me, that would make me feel violent. If someone displays a bit of an agitated tone towards me, that would make me feel violent as well. But, when I'm happy and enjoying my life, these things don't make me feel violent at all. As a matter of fact, they don't even bother me.

Other Person's Response: I see just how serious and dire of a situation you're in when you have these miserable struggles.

My Reply: Yes. It's important that I'm happy and enjoying my life.

Other Person's Response: During your miserable struggles, did you try telling yourself that it doesn't matter what others think of you, or how they treat you? Didn't that prevent you from feeling violent towards these people?

My Reply: Not at all. I couldn't help but feel violent during these struggles.

Other Person's Response: So, during your miserable struggles, you could only hate, and not love? But, once you've fully recovered, you could only love, and not hate?

My Reply: Correct. I could only have negative experiences during these struggles, and I could only have positive experiences once fully recovered.

Other Person's Response: While we're on the topic of violence, I wish to say something. If someone treated me very kindly, but then harmed and/or slaughtered me, since I did or said something this person didn't like, that wouldn't be a good or loving person. Just because I made the wrong move doesn't make me a horrible or disgusting person who deserved to be killed.

As a matter of fact, I deserve to be treated with love, kindness, and respect, even during moments I might say or do the wrong thing, since, overall, I'm a polite gentlemen. I'm not someone disgusting who deserves to be wiped off the face of this Earth.

If I were to go up to a lion, the lion treats me kindly, but I then do or say something that results in the lion devouring me, did that make me a horrible person who deserved to be devoured? No! I'm still a beautiful person, and that lion was just a dangerous beast, and nothing more!

My Reply: I just hope I don't act out on my violent feelings during my miserable struggles then. But, I don't think anybody has to worry about that anymore, since all these struggles are done and over with.

Other Person's Response: If Jake was violent, and wanted to harm a kind individual (Jon), simply because Jon did something Jake didn't like, then imagine if someone as kind and loving as Michael Jackson was there, told Jake he should love others more, and not be so violent. If Jake then became violent towards MJ, since he didn't like MJ's advice, and harmed, or even killed MJ, then that would be a repulsive person.

My Reply: Now, I wouldn't feel violent towards MJ during my miserable struggles (if he was alive, and was there with me). I just feel violent towards certain people, and I can't help feeling that way. Also, there are those types of people who feel violent, not because they have other issues going on in their lives, but simply because someone did something, or said something, this person didn't like. When I feel violent during moments people mistreat me or name call me, it's because there are issues going on in my life, such as having devastating worries because, normally, I don't feel violent at all. As a matter of fact, I don't even feel angry or upset.

Other Person's Response: I think people, who don't feel violent hatred, are more developed people because they don't have violent, hateful thought processes to make them feel violent hatred.

 

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My Reply: Yes. But, having an emotional crisis would put you in an inferior state of being, where you'd feel hate and rage. So, I'm in that inferior state when I'm having an emotional crisis. But, once I'm fully recovered, I return back to my normal, higher developed state, where I no longer feel hate, disgust, rage, etc.

Other Person's Response: You've learned to keep your thoughts healthy in order to prevent bringing more misery upon yourself. That would be a form of development right there because you changed your thoughts from negative to positive.

My Reply: Yes. When you change your thoughts to stop making yourself feel miserable, violent, or stressed, then you've developed as an individual.

Other Person's Response: There's also character development in terms of changing one's philosophy. You have yet to develop in this area.

My Reply: Yes. I haven't developed in terms of my values (if there are greater values I have yet to obtain). But, at least I've developed in terms of no longer worrying, and having other negative thoughts, that only make me miserable.

Other Person's Response: If you're in the midst of an emotional crisis, and you act out on your emotions by saying, or doing something, that hurts, and/or offends people, you'd have to tell them this isn't who you are normally because, normally, you're a kind, polite person.

My Reply: Yes. If I don't tell them that, then they'd get the impression that this is who I am all the time. When I'm a happy person, many people love me, and I'm polite.

Other Person's Response: When you're in the midst of an emotional crisis, do you perceive yourself, and your mother, as disgusting?

My Reply: Yes. This feeling creates a disgusting relationship for me, where I perceive both myself, and my mother, as disgusting.

Other Person's Response: Can a person still be a decent, loving, human being, even if he has violent tendencies?

My Reply: Yes. As long as he feels love, then he's loving someone or something. If he feels decent about himself, then he'd be a decent human being from his perspective. Anyone who feels he's a disgusting person would see him as disgusting.

Other Person's Response: I heard your mother also feels violent during moments of stress in her life. So, if you acted out on the negative emotions you felt during your miserable moments, that would cause your mother to be very upset and scream, since you'd be causing her additional stress.

My Reply: Yes. So, not only is it important that I don't act out on my emotions during my miserable moments, so that I don't harm myself or others, but also to prevent my mother from experiencing more stress than what she's already going through.

Other Person's Response: When your mother feels rage, does she act out on it?

My Reply: She does scream, since she doesn't tolerate much stress in her life. But, she doesn't harm me, herself, or anyone else.

Other Person's Response: If your mother could change her mindset, then she might no longer feel violent towards people who mistreat her. After all, you said how a person thinks is how the person feels. So, if your mother had thoughts that she just doesn't care about these people anymore, or their hurtful opinions, then she wouldn't feel any negative emotions when these people mistreat her. Thus, these people wouldn't bother her anymore.

My Reply: Yes. Negative emotions are the only way people, things, and situations can bother us. So, if she no longer feels those negative emotions about these people, then these people will no longer bother her. It's something she might not be able to help though.

Other Person's Response: I think your mother's situation is unlike yours because you only feel violent when others mistreat you during an emotional crisis. But, your mother would feel violent any time of the day when someone mistreats her.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Even if a person had no emotions, he could still act as though a pain-inducing situation bothers him, when it's giving him pain.

My Reply: But, again, negative emotions are how things bother us in such a way that situations become horrible, bad, or disgusting to us. Physical pain can't do that.

Other Person's Response: When you're not having any devastating worry or negative thought, you say nothing really bothers you, and that you're happy, and enjoying your life. So, when you engage in a discussion with people who try to provoke you in your calm, casual, state of mind, do they think you're being passive aggressive, when you show no sign of anger?

My Reply: Yes. But, I wouldn't be passive aggressive because there'd be no anger bottling up inside me. So, I'd be completely calm during the entire discussion. If I was having a discussion with these people during an emotional crisis, then, yes, it's very likely I'd lash out because the slightest things bother me when I'm miserable, or emotionally traumatized. But, when I'm doing just fine, everything's all good and well in my life. That's why hardly anything can bother me.

Other Person's Response: You said you felt like destroying yourself, along with the entire universe, during your miserable struggles. You don't have the power to actually do that though.

My Reply: I know. I just felt like doing it.

Other Person's Response: How would you metaphorically describe yourself when you feel violent?

My Reply: It's like I'm the most powerful, dangerous thing in this universe, such as a black hole, or supernova, who has no regard for his life, or the lives of others. I'd feel like destroying everything and everyone, not because I hate innocent people, or living things, and think they deserve to die. Rather, I'd just be like a black hole, or supernova, that would destroy everything, and everyone. When I feel violent, that feeling of rage wouldn't be at a lower threat status, such as someone who just feels very angry. It would be put at the highest threat status, such as a black hole or supernova (i.e. a dangerous, cosmic phenomenon). So, that's what I feel like when I'm feeling violent during my miserable struggles. But, like I said, I don't act out on that feeling.

Other Person's Response: Since you know violence isn't the answer, then why not try to tap into a higher part of yourself, and love your mother and yourself, even though you're in the midst of an emotional crisis right now?

My Reply: I can't love without my feeling of love. I tried to tap into a higher form of love. But, that love doesn't exist for me. So, I had no choice but to feel hate and rage during my miserable struggles, and not act out on it. Eventually, I started to feel love again as I drew close to a full recovery.

Other Person's Response: Your actions alone of not harming your mother is love in my eyes.

My Reply: It wasn't love. Love is that inner experience, which I didn't have during my miserable struggles. If there was a serial killer who had nothing but hate for someone, but never acted out on that hate, then that wouldn't classify as love. That serial killer could also display acts of love. But, that doesn't mean he's actually loving anybody.

Other Person's Response: Would you feel bad if you harmed your mother?

My Reply: Yes. That feeling would be much worse if it was during an emotional crisis, since I feel profoundly horrible negative emotions during these times.

Other Person's Response: There are people (skeptics) who say we're just biological machines with no free will. Therefore, if you acted out on your violent feelings, and harmed your mother, then it wouldn't have been your free choice to do so.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Have you ever involuntarily performed certain acts in your sleep, such as saying certain things, or making certain movements? Well, I think this says you're a biological machine with no free will, since you had no choice but to perform those acts, since they were involuntary acts.

My Reply: Yes, that did happen to me. But, I'm not sure if this says I'm a biological machine with no free will. After all, spiritual believers, who do believe we have free will, would present their own counter argument against your argument.

Other Person's Response: If you performed acts in your sleep, how would you know if you performed them?

My Reply: For example, someone else, who witnessed you performing those acts, could tell you that you've performed them.

Other Person's Response: If we have no free will, then all acts would be involuntary.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: If we really were just programmed, biological machines with no free will, then we couldn't act against that programming. For example, we're programmed with the fear response, which means we're programmed to avoid dangerous situations. But, there are people who choose to face danger, despite feeling much fear. There are also some people who are programmed to do drugs, and eat a lot of food. Yet, they still say no to drugs, and obesity, which means they're acting against their natural programming.

My Reply: If we really are machines with no free will, then all of the things you described are already part of our machine's programming. So, when a person faces danger, despite feeling much fear, he was already programmed to do that. That means he had no choice in facing his fear. The same thing applies to those people who've chosen to not be fat, or do drugs.

Other Person's Response: Personally, I think we're reduced to biological machines with no free will, and that goodness, beauty, love, joy, and worth is reduced to positive emotions.

My Reply: Yes. But, again, I'm not so sure about the free will part.

 

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Other Person's Response: If we really were reduced to machines with no free will, and positive emotions really were the only things that can make life beautiful, then I bet that would upset a lot of people, and make them feel plenty of negative emotions. Fortunately, for you, that wouldn't bother you, as long as you're not having an emotional crisis.

My Reply: Correct. But, during devastating worries and negative thoughts that transpired in my life, this idea did bother me, and made me feel that life's a pitiful joke.

Other Person's Response: If we are biological machines with no free will, then if people still mistreat you, or have a high standard, they had no choice in the matter.

My Reply: Yes. Still, I can, at least, explain to people why they shouldn't mistreat me, and why I think they should have a lower standard. Hopefully, that would change them. If not, then that's just the way it is.

Other Person's Response:

If we really are machines with no free will, then all of the things you described are already part of our machine's programming. So, when a person faces danger, despite feeling much fear, he was already programmed to do that. That means he had no choice in facing his fear. The same thing applies to those people who've chosen to not be fat, or do drugs.

Take it from someone who's lived an extremely violent, drug filled life of madness. You always have a choice. If people were programmed to go against their own programming, drug addicts would never get clean, or they'd get clean, and stay clean.

This is not the case for 99.9% of us. We tend to get doped out of minds, lose everything we own, and everyone we know, get clean for a little while, then go right back into dope head first, just to eventually try and get clean again, rinse & repeat, etc.

The few of us that get lucky, get clean, and not overdose, commit suicide, or go insane. We still have to struggle with addiction the rest of our lives, and it's not easy. So, to say I'm programmed to live this way is an insult to life itself. No creature lives for the purpose to torment itself endlessly.

My Reply: Well, there are many highly intelligent skeptics who think we're biological machines with no free will. I have no counter argument for the argument you've just given, since I'm not an intelligent person. But, if there were some highly intelligent skeptics here, I'm quite sure they'd come up with some good counter arguments. Personally, I hope we're not biological machines with no free will, and this being the only life. I'd want to be a special, spiritual being in this universe, who gets to live the blissful afterlife of his dreams.

Other Person's Response: In sleep, your brain still functions. Albeit, in a limited fashion. The higher level decision making areas, for example, are "out of it." Dreams and, consequently, unconscious actions, are simply your brain trying to rationalize, and compartmentalize, recent experiences. Yet, when you're awake, you're perfectly able to choose to turn right or left when you leave your house.

My Reply: Thanks for that bit of insight!

Other Person's Response: I understand your point of view though, and life would be so much more simple without the idea of free will. But, unfortunately, life is a .... tough ....

So, I personally can't stand the idea that a child molester, or rapist, is simply following his programming, and is free of the responsibility of ruining not only his victim's life, but for several generations down the victim's ancestry. This ripple effect alone of molestation and rape are too serious to just shrug it off as "but mah programming".

So, I'll exit in apologizing if I came off as too strong or aggressive. But, I assure you, I have no ill feelings towards you. But, I do have very strong feelings about the subject, since I was a victim of abuse myself.

My Reply: Thanks for your apology.

Other Person's Response: How often do you feel violent during your miserable struggles?

My Reply: A lot. But, I don't act out on it. I couldn't help but feel this way because how you feel isn't always under your control.

Other Person's Response: Even if you did have the power to destroy yourself, along with the entire universe, why not just destroy yourself if you acted out on your violent impulse? Why involve everyone else?

My Reply: It's because pure, violent, extreme rage wishes to destroy literally everything, with no regard for anyone's life. Thus, pure rage is overly dramatic and dangerous. But, you can stop yourself from acting out on it. That, or you could limit how much you act on the rage. So, if I fully acted out on my rage, then I would find myself destroying everything. Or, I could stop myself from harming myself, or anyone else, and get the help I need.

Other Person's Response: When you felt like vaporizing everything during your miserable struggles, did you act out that scene in your mind, even though you didn't act out on that emotion in reality?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: If you had the power to destroy everything, but all people destroyed would suffer an eternity in hell, would you still feel like destroying everything during your emotional crisis?

My Reply: Actually, it would be very horrible to me if people suffered forever in hell. I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy. So, I think I'd stop feeling the desire to destroy everything, and instead feel horrible about that situation. So, yes, I do feel violent during my miserable struggles. But, it's still possible for me to switch over from feeling one particular negative emotion to another.

Other Person's Response: You say you feel violent during an emotional crisis, but that you've never acted out on those violent feelings. One day, you could slip up, and harm yourself and/or others around you.

My Reply: Fortunately, I don't think I'm going to have an emotional crisis ever again. During an emotional crisis, that's when I feel violent. But, during normal times of stress, I don't feel violent.

Other Person's Response: During an emotional crisis, you say you feel violent towards people who mistreat you, or give you a stern attitude. Do you feel violent towards anyone who treats you this way?

My Reply: Actually, I think it depends on the person. So, someone could mistreat me, and give me a stern attitude during an emotional crisis, but I might instead feel fear, misery, or dread.

Other Person's Response: Just because you felt disgust towards other people during your miserable struggles doesn't mean you meant they were disgusting people.

My Reply: Actually, since feeling disgust about someone is how that person becomes disgusting to me, how could you say I didn't mean it? To say I didn't mean they were disgusting people implies that I wasn't having a real value judgment of disgust towards them. But, since these feelings of disgust I had were real value judgments, then I'd have to mean they were disgusting people.

Other Person's Response: When you're happy and enjoying your life, do certain songs still make you feel sad?

My Reply: Yes. But, during my struggles, they're much worse feelings of sadness. They're tragic, morbid feelings, as opposed to the normal, healthy feelings of sadness I'd normally feel.

Other Person's Response: Even if you were happy and enjoying your life, would you still feel horrible if your mother, or anyone else, were to suffer an eternity in hell?

My Reply: Yes. But, I don't know how horrible the emotional experience would be for me. I think it would be an entirely different negative emotion than what I've felt during my miserable struggles. I might feel intense dread and/or some other type of negative emotion.

Other Person's Response: How would you feel if you were going to suffer an eternity in hell?

My Reply: I'd panic. I'd also think I'd panic if my mother was the one going to suffer an eternity in hell.

Other Person's Response: Are you sure you didn't feel sad about the idea of harming your mother during your struggles?

My Reply: Actually, I did. So, rage wasn't the only negative emotion I felt during my struggles. I felt all other sorts of negative emotions as well. I felt tragic about many things, I felt pitiful about myself, I felt disgust, etc.

Other Person's Response: What other things make you feel negative emotions during your miserable struggles that normally wouldn't make you feel that way?

My Reply: When I watch nature shows, where animals hunt other animals, it becomes profoundly tragic and disturbing from my perspective. It doesn't seem normal, or natural, at all. But, when I'm fully recovered from my misery, and am happy, then I could watch these nature shows again, and it would all seem completely natural. There'd be nothing disturbing, or tragic, about it now. As you can see, I have a whole new perspective during my miserable struggles than the perspective I'd have during my normal, happy, healthy state.

Other Person's Response: When you're happy and enjoying your life, do horror movies, or nature shows, still make you feel negative emotions?

My Reply: Not at all. I'd actually be experiencing a beautiful atmosphere when watching these shows and movies. The same idea would apply to horror games.

Other Person's Response: I think it's pitiful that your positive emotions are the only things that make your life positive! You don't live your life by greater values than this, and I find that pitiful!

My Reply: It would only be pitiful if I knew there was more positivity to life than positive emotions, and I still gave up on things in my life, such as my hobbies. This is because I'd have no excuse for giving up, and, yet, I'd still be choosing to give up anyway.

But, it's a different situation when I'm doubtful, and skeptical, that there's more positivity to life. Would we say an atheist, not living by a religious doctrine, is something pitiful? No. That atheist doesn't believe in god, and, thus, other people should understand why he doesn't live his life by a religious doctrine.

 

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Likewise, other people should understand why I don't live my life by greater values. The atheist doesn't believe in god, and neither do I believe there's more positivity to life than positive emotions. I consider the notion of greater values to be a false doctrine many people believe in.

Other Person's Response: Actually, if I felt it was pitiful that you're not living your life by greater values, then, from my perspective, it would be pitiful. But, from your perspective, it wouldn't be pitiful because you don't feel that way.

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: I know you don't feel pathetic about yourself now. But, did you feel that way about yourself during your miserable struggles?

My Reply: Yes. I felt I was puny and pathetic, since I live by the philosophy I live by. Now that I'm almost fully recovered from this worry I'm having, I no longer feel that way about myself anymore.

Other Person's Response: You say thoughts and emotions can't be the same thing. Are you sure you've never experienced an intellectual form of emotions? I think the brain is more complicated than what you're making it out to be, and I don't think emotions are only limited to the primitive, instinctive ones you've talked about.

My Reply: The only emotions I've ever had were the primitive, instinctive ones. Thoughts and beliefs, themselves, have never been any emotional experience for me.

Other Person's Response: I understand what you're saying, and it seems obvious to me that thinking about being sad, or even articulating a thought where a feeling is labeled like "I am sad," is distinct from the experience of the emotion itself. But, this process can often be a lot fuzzier than you're making, and I would still suggest reconsidering some of the distinctions you made in your packet. My feeling is you're just analyzing, and articulating, your own experience of thought and emotion, which is fine. But, often times, when we're working from our own mind, we don't always see our own biases, or limitations.

My Reply: Understood.

Other Person's Response: So, what you're trying to say is that you have no emotions intellectually, and the only ones you have are the primitive, instinctive ones?

My Reply: Correct. I have no values founded upon intellect either, since they're solely emotional based values.

Other Person's Response: You should really do some research on this subject because thoughts and emotions aren't split up as you say they are. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.

My Reply: Even if I decided to do research, there's no way I could find such research anyway. For example, me typing in the phrase: "Separation between thoughts and emotions" into the Google search bar doesn't give me the results I need. Sometimes, when you search for things online, it just gives you a whole bunch of information, and it's not what you were looking for. I typed in that quoted phrase, and it's giving me results, such as this one:

Distinguishing thoughts and emotions - Wildmind

If I needed to phrase it differently to get the results I want, then I'm very limited in my vocabulary, and, thus, I can only stick with simple phrases, such as the one I quoted. But, none of those simple phrases give me the results I need. Even if I did discover the research, I wouldn't be able to comprehend it because I can only comprehend things, such as a conversation with my family, or music theory lessons for complete beginners.

I can't comprehend professionally written material, such as certain things written on Wikipedia, certain articles, or certain research. But, even if I could comprehend the research, I explain in my Undecided Packet I can't decide on anything that has a debate.

There might be debate regarding this research because some people might argue that thoughts and emotions can't be the same thing. So, I'm just explaining things from my own personal experience because, for me, thoughts and emotions have never been the same thing. Thoughts, and valuing things, have never been the same thing for me either.

Other Person's Response: I don't need some holy inner light to perceive my life as something beautiful and great.

My Reply: The perception of beauty and greatness is what I call the holy, inner light. I think positive emotions are the only holy, inner light we can have. But, if there can somehow be an intellectual form of the holy, inner light, then our brains would have to receive the light intellectually. Remember, the perception of beauty and greatness is something that goes beyond thoughts/beliefs.

So, when I consider the possibility of an intellectual form of perceived beauty and greatness, I'm not implying that what we think can somehow give us that perception. Therefore, there would have to be a form of positive emotions through our intellect. Like I said, I think intellect can only give us the experience of ideas.

If that's the case, then no thoughts/beliefs alone can ever give me the types of horrible experiences I've had in my nightmares, and during my miserable moments. Nor can it ever give me the beautiful and joyful experiences my positive emotions have brought my life. However, if there can be a form of intellectual emotions, then, hopefully, they're not fleeting like the primitive, instinctive ones.

Other Person's Response: There are emotions that do reside in the prefrontal cortex (the intellectual area of the brain). However, said emotions can be disabled, due to clinical depression, or other factors, which would prevent thoughts and beliefs from making people feel emotions.

My Reply: I see. But, there's still a distinction between thoughts and emotions because, if thoughts and beliefs aren't making people feel positive emotions during clinical depression, then that says there's a difference between emotion, and thoughts or beliefs.

Other Person's Response: Since you keep your mind clear, and hardly know anything, that makes you a dumb, mindless individual.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: Technically, you would be thinking something when playing video games, which means your mind wouldn't be empty. You'd be having joyful and beautiful thoughts, while adventuring through the levels.

My Reply: Yes, that's correct. I figure, if I had no thoughts at all, I wouldn't feel anything, since there'd be no thought to make me feel a particular emotion.

Other Person's Response: I wonder if it's possible for you to live your daily life, not having a positive or negative thought at all. I wonder if you wouldn't feel any positive or negative emotions as a result, since you wouldn't be thinking that anything, or anyone, is beautiful, good, bad, horrible, or disgusting.

My Reply: I also wonder.

Other Person's Response: I heard you're taking up a new hobby though, which would be composing. That requires some thought.

My Reply: Yes. When I decide to create good music later on, I will think about the rules of music theory that need to be taken into account.

Other Person's Response: When you fully complete a video game, do you just delete the file you completed, and start over?

My Reply: Actually, I'd first record my completed progress using the Dazzle device. Then, I upload that recording (video) to youtube. After that, I delete the file, start over, complete the game again, and record my completed progress again. This is because, for example, if I collected all 120 stars in a Mario game, then all that progress would go to waste if I just deleted it.

By recording all my progress, I feel that it hasn't gone to waste. So, if I complete a Mario game 3 times, then it's like I've collected 360 stars (120x3=360) if I recorded and uploaded, as opposed to just collecting 120 stars, deleting that file, starting over, and collecting 120 stars again without recording.

Therefore, by having recordings of my completed progress, all my progress has been preserved, and anyone could add up all the stars I've collected in Mario games, or all the items I've collected in Zelda games. Lastly, I'm not planning on making professional quality recordings (such as full game walkthroughs). I'm just recording my completed progress, which is why I'm sticking with the Dazzle device to record. I'm not using an expensive, high quality, recording device.

Other Person's Response: Do you record your gameplay to show off?

My Reply: No. I'm not bragging how skilled I am at playing video games, or anything like that. As a matter of fact, I don't care how skilled I am. I just play video games for the fun, adventure, and to collect as many items as I can. I record all my progress because I feel that all the items I've collected are being preserved in the form of recorded videos.

Other Person's Response: I heard there's a new gaming system by Nintendo, and it's called the Nintendo Switch. Are you going to buy that, and get some games for it?

My Reply: Yes. I'm also going to get a new hdtv. But, my mother doesn't have the money for these things right now. However, she said she's going to get a home equity loan, and that will allow her to afford these things. When she gets the loan, I'm going to buy the following games: Super Mario Odyssey, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, New Super Mario Bros. U, Yoshi's Crafted World, and Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy.

Other Person's Response: But, you said that worry is still there, preventing from from feeling joy. So, even if you do buy those things, you wouldn't be able to enjoy them. That means they'd have no value and worth to you.

My Reply: That's correct. So, when my mother gets this loan, I'm not going to buy them yet, as long as I don't have my positive emotions. Once I'm fully recovered, then I'll buy them, since I can enjoy them. Or, I could buy them when she gets the loan, but set them aside for a later time, until I can enjoy them. As of now, I'm no longer miserable, and I'm doing fine. But, that subconscious worry is still there, rendering me apathetic.

Other Person's Response: Do you notice something else when you draw closer and closer to a state

 

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of full recovery?

My Reply: Yes. My visual quality becomes more clear, vivid, and better. I think this is because, as my brain gives less and less attention to the worry, as it slowly and gradually lets go of it, my brain gives more and more attention to visuals. Maybe that's why my visual quality becomes enhanced. Therefore, when I'm fully recovered, I think my visual quality will be restored back to normal. Even though my visual quality wasn't as good during my moment of misery, I could still see things, and didn't need glasses. So, I think my visual quality was slightly degraded during my misery.

Other Person's Response: You're apathetic right now, and you're saying you're doing fine. I thought the only way to be fine is to feel fine.

My Reply: Yes. Feeling fine (a positive emotion) means you're fine, not feeling fine (a negative emotion) means you're not fine, and being apathetic means you're neither fine nor not fine. So, actually, I'm just an empty vessel, who's neither fine nor not fine.

Other Person's Response: You said you might give up on composing, and return to the hobby you've always lived for (playing video games). That means you'd be the same person, living by the same values, doing the same hobby his whole life.

My Reply: Yes. Playing video games is the hobby I've always lived for, and my positive emotions have always been the source of beauty, worth, and goodness in my life. As for my composing, I'm not going to give up on it just yet. Also, when creating music, I need to feel inspired in order to be inspired. If I create music when I'm not feeling up to it, then I'm not inspired.

Other Person's Response: When you do have your positive emotions, how often do you feel inspired to make music?

My Reply: I'm not sure yet. Composing is a new hobby I've taken up, and I need to fully recover from this worry to find out.

Other Person's Response: If you fully recover from this worry, have your joy all back to you again, but you don't feel inspired often to compose, then that must be because of your way of thinking. You must be thinking composing isn't all that important to you, even though you have some level of interest in it.

My Reply: Correct. So, once I do fully recover, I'll see how often I'm inspired to compose.

Other Person's Response: How often do you feel up to playing video games when you have your positive emotions?

My Reply: Mostly all throughout the day. There are times I want to take breaks. These would be the moments where I feel I need to take a break. That feeling of wanting to take a break would be a positive emotion, since I feel like sitting back and relaxing.

Other Person's Response: How are you defining inspiration?

My Reply: I define it as the emotions (i.e. the motivation to come up with an idea or work of art). So, you could create an idea or work of art. But, as long as you were apathetic in doing so, then you weren't inspired. Negative emotions can be a form of inspiration, like I said earlier. But, they don't make our lives and artistic endeavors beautiful, good, and amazing.

Other Person's Response: Personally, I don't think you'll be the same person your whole life, doing the same video gaming hobby. People do change with time.

My Reply: Haven't you ever known someone who was the same person, doing the same hobby his whole life? I'm quite sure there are such people out there.

Other Person's Response: I know plenty of people who've never changed. There are ********, cons, thieves, liars, etc. So, maybe, you'll never outgrow your philosophy.

My Reply: It's quite possible my values will never change. So, you could be right.

Other Person's Response: If your values never change, even when you're an old man, then it would be like you're the spirit of a child, living inside an old man's body.

My Reply: Well, if there truly is no more beauty to obtain through growing and developing as an individual, and positive emotions really are the only source of beauty, then how could you even call me a child who lacks maturity, due to the values I live by? By calling me a child, due to my values, that's already implying there's greater, mature value to life than the childish values I live by. But, if there is no more value to life, then it would be nonsense to call me a child.

Other Person's Response: I don't think you should give up on composing because you're pursuing something that makes you more than just a basic gamer. You are becoming a creative individual, and you're pursuing your higher, creative, spiritual self. By giving up on that, you're just switching back to your usual self, playing video games.

My Reply: Things aren't looking too well for my composing dream. I don't think I have the talent to create the music I want to create. So, I might as well go back to my gaming self.

Other Person's Response: Even if you're feeling wonderful, and feel up to pursuing your composing dream, you're still going to give up on it if you can't achieve your goal?

My Reply: Correct. If I can't create awesome music that expresses what I wish to express to the audience, I'd still give up, regardless of how I feel.

Other Person's Response: In regards to your composing, maybe you'll reincarnate, and become a talented composer in some other life.

My Reply: That could be. As for this life I have now, I might as well just live the entirety of it, playing video games, seeing as how I have no composing talent.

Other Person's Response: I wouldn't consider you a true composer, since you give up on composing when you can't feel joy. Not only that, but you're composing rubbish melodies. Some motivation, passion, talent, values, and life you have!

My Reply: Then you might as well say I'm not a true gamer, or any true hobbyist, since I give up on all hobbies without my positive emotions.

Other Person's Response: Do you have pets? If so, did you care when they died?

My Reply: I didn't care one bit. Death, to me, is completely natural. Not only that, but I don't have much of a personal connection to my pets anyway. That could be due to my autism because I heard some autistic people don't have much of a connection with others.

Other Person's Response: Did your mother get the pets at your home (the dogs and cats)? If so, does she grieve when they die?

My Reply: She does, since she cares a lot about animals, and has an attachment to them.

Other Person's Response: It seems it wouldn't bother you if your mother died, your pets died, or the fact that there are suffering, innocent people.

My Reply: Correct. I just have no sense of attachment and connection towards my mother, my pets, or other suffering people. When I witness other suffering people in this world, it doesn't bother me at all. Neither does it bother me when my pets die. So, it's quite possible it won't bother me when my mother dies.

Other Person's Response: Even though you're not attached to your pets, do you still have fun with them?

My Reply: Yes. When I'm happy and enjoying my life, I might do something silly, such as making a certain sound to baffle them.

Other Person's Response: Yet, it seems you're quite attached to your positive emotions. Would you grieve if you lost them?

My Reply: In the past, I became very miserable (hopeless) when I lost them. But, I've gotten over that, and learned to keep my thoughts healthy in order to avoid further misery in my life. That means, if I were to lose my positive emotions again, I wouldn't be miserable or upset about it one bit. I'd just have to find ways to restore them.

Other Person's Response: When you fully recover from an emotional crisis, you tend to not have that emotional crisis again. For example, if I lost my loved one, that would cause me immense grief. But, once I'm fully recovered from my grief, I'd be accepting of my loss, and move on. The same idea applies to you losing your positive emotions. When you lost them at first, that caused you much hopelessness. But, now that you're fully recovered from that emotional crisis, that means, if you were to lose your positive emotions again, it wouldn't bother you now.

My Reply: Correct. But, it's possible to get caught in a cycle of misery, where you become miserable about one situation, fully recover from that misery, become miserable about another situation, etc. I've been caught in this cycle, and it was due to thoughts of avoiding certain things. When you wish to avoid certain thoughts, ideas, and information, that will only bring more and more misery upon you.

By having the thought that it's horrible and something to be avoided, you only cause yourself more and more emotional suffering. That's why I was hopeless when I lost my positive emotions, and that's why people grieve when their loved ones die. When you wish to avoid situations like these, then that just triggers misery and grief for you when the situations do occur.

Other Person's Response: I heard from spiritual believers that, when we have negative thoughts of wanting to avoid certain things and situations, that only attracts negative things, people, and situations in our lives.

My Reply: That could be the reason why I was caught in a cycle of misery that took up much of my life. By continuing to have those negative thoughts of avoidance, I only attracted more and more misery into my life. Maybe my mother is also attracting money problems in her life by having negative thoughts of wanting to avoid financial misfortunes. She becomes upset, sad, and angry when these misfortunes do occur.

This clearly says she has negative thoughts about these misfortunes, and that she wishes to avoid them, since they're unacceptable to her. If she didn't have those thoughts, then it wouldn't bother her when those misfortunes do occur. As a matter of fact, without those negative thoughts, she might be attracting more and more money into her life, which means she might be winning the pick 3 numbers much of the time, instead of continually getting one number off.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Maybe you should spend more time with your family and pets, rather than immersing yourself in the world of anime, video games, and hedonism. Perhaps then you'd develop a sense of connection with your family and pets.

My Reply: I'm not sure if that's the case. I've had many moments with my family anyway, such as playing sports with them, walking in nature with them, etc. I've had moments with my pets as well.

Other Person's Response: Are you sure you wouldn't miss your mother when she dies?

My Reply: Actually, it might be like a situation where I miss watching a beautiful movie. That feeling wouldn't be a negative emotion. It would be a positive emotion. So, I might miss my mother when she dies. But, I might not feel any negative emotions about that. Instead, I might miss my mother in a positive way, which goes back to my movie analogy.

Other Person's Response: You could also feel good when your mother dies because perhaps you'll see her up in heaven again.

My Reply: Providing heaven even exists. I do look forward to the possibility of it existing though. After all, there seems to be many lines of evidence supporting the afterlife and paranormal. But, I don't know if it's any real evidence.

Other Person's Response: As I said earlier, spiritual believers say we attract negative things in our lives when we have negative thoughts and worries. So, maybe, it's a good thing you don't have the negative thought that your mother's loss would be horrible, tragic, and devastating. If you did, that might attract her death, which would cause you to feel devastated.

My Reply: I'm not sure if having such thoughts would make it more likely my mother would die or not. I know spiritual believers talk about how negative thoughts bring bad karma into our lives. But, like I said, I don't know if karma even exists.

Other Person's Response: I know some people who really hated cancer, and didn't want to have it in their lives. Sure enough, they ended up with cancer. So, by having negative thoughts and worries, you only attract bad things in your life.

My Reply: That could be.

Other Person's Response: In regards to what spiritual believers say, which would be that we attract negative things in our lives by having negative thoughts, your mother might claim she's having nothing but positive thoughts in trying to earn money. But, the question to ask her would be if she'd be upset if she were stuck in her pit of poverty her entire life, or if she doesn't get money when she's on the verge of earning a lot of money. If she would become upset in these scenarios, then that says she's having negative thoughts in the back of her mind. Perhaps it's these negative thoughts that are bringing bad luck into her life.

My Reply: That could be. So, if my mother wants to attract money into her life, then she might have to rid of those negative thoughts. That means she must have a new mindset, where she wouldn't be upset if she doesn't achieve her financial goals.

Other Person's Response: Even though you don't live your life helping humanity, did you ever help any suffering people in this world?

My Reply: Yes. My mother wanted me to help some people, since she cares about suffering people, and I did so because not doing so would only make her upset at me, and I didn't want that. If I were living by myself, then I wouldn't bother helping suffering people in this world. But, when my mother expects me to, I do so. Now, even though I've helped some suffering people, that did not change me as a person, or my philosophy.

Other Person's Response: Maybe you're just a narcissist, and perhaps that's why it's so difficult for you to grow as a person, and in terms of your philosophy.

My Reply: That might be.

Other Person's Response: If you didn't care about the suffering of other people in this world, then why are you saying things, such as that the suffering of others is cruel, unfair, and that all human beings are better off living in a utopia world?

My Reply: It's because I'm just stating my personal views, and nothing more. Since my philosophy says positive emotions are what make life beautiful, then all I'm doing here is saying that human beings would be better off not living lives filled with misery and unhappiness.

Other Person's Response: You say there are moments where you do feel bad, such as if you made someone cry. That shows you have some level of compassion.

My Reply: Yes. When I'm in the midst of an emotional crisis, it would be much worse on me, since I'd be feeling very horrible, tragic, morbid emotions, rather than the normal, healthy, negative emotions I'd feel when I'm not having any emotional crisis. In other words, when I'm not having an emotional crisis, I'd just feel bad if I made someone cry. But, during an emotional crisis, I'd feel very horrible about that.

Other Person's Response: If your mother or pets died, and they were to be tormented in hell for eternity, would you care?

My Reply: Yes. It would be horrible. I'd have the thought that would be horrible, and that thought would make me feel horrible about that situation (if it did happen in a pretend scenario). But, like I said, I'm better off not feeling horrible about it, since negative emotions only make my life horrible, bad, or disgusting. Instead, I'd be better off feeling positive about doing everything I can to save them from hell. If I can't save them, then it's pointless to feel horrible about it, since feeling bad about it won't do anything to save them. I'd, thus, be better off just being happy and enjoying my life, while they suffer in hell for eternity.

Other Person's Response: The very fact you'd care if your family or pets suffered an eternity in hell, and the fact that you'd save them from hell, shows you have some decency as a human being. I think that's something worth appreciating.

My Reply: Yes. I may not be the most caring, compassionate, or loving person in the world. But, at least I'd care if they'd suffer in hell for eternity.

Other Person's Response: If you had a mental illness, which prevented you from feeling emotions, then you couldn't feel horrible about your mother, or pets, being tormented in hell for eternity. That means you wouldn't care.

My Reply: Correct. It would also mean I wouldn't care if I was the one to be tormented in hell for eternity. But, I'd still save myself, my mother, and pets.

Other Person's Response: If you were the one who'd be tormented in hell for eternity, you're saying it would be better for you to feel happy about doing everything you can to save yourself from hell? If there'd be no way to save yourself, then you're saying feeling horrible about it won't save you from hell, and, thus, you'd be better off being happy and enjoying your life before you suffer an eternity in hell?

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: There are certain negative emotions that can be experienced as beautiful. For example, a person could feel miserable about the suffering of others, and that be a beautiful experience for him, since it shows compassion towards those suffering. So, I don't think positive emotions are the only beautiful experiences. I think you just need to learn that negative emotions can also be beautiful.

My Reply: Based upon my own personal experience, positive emotions are the only way to experience moments, things, and situations as beautiful.

Other Person's Response: You say that, during your miserable struggles, no positive thought can make you feel a positive emotion. Maybe you just need to have a stronger positive thought. Perhaps then it would make you feel positive emotions.

My Reply: That doesn't work. I've already tried it. You could also ask a clinically depressed person to think a very strong, positive thought. But, that thought wouldn't make the person feel happy. It might on seldom occasions though. As for me, I had to recover from my miserable moments for my positive emotions to return.

Other Person's Response: If you do everything you can to change this philosophy of yours, but can't, then you're nothing more than ****! You amount to nothing!

My Reply: I tried my best, and that's all I can do. If I lose my positive emotions, can't sufficiently or fully regain them, and I try all I can to change my philosophy, then how can you blame me if it can't change? As long as I've done my best to change, then it's not my fault if I can't change.

Other Person's Response: It's in your power to change, and give your life a whole new set of values!

My Reply: We as human beings don't really have the upper hand in life. Life is very unfortunate, and the things we want we don't always get. Yes, I would want my life to have a new form of beauty besides my positive emotions if I ever lose them, and can't seem to sufficiently or fully regain them. But, I'm not sure life will give me that. It's like asking for a magical fairy to be in my life. That fairy doesn't exist, which means I can't have it. I could have the thought of wanting it. But, it won't come to me no matter how hard I try to obtain it.

Other Person's Response: I know plenty of hedonists who once thought positive emotions were the only things that make life good and beautiful. But, they've changed, and they no longer have such a shallow outlook.

My Reply: Did they change because they deluded themselves into believing there's more beauty and goodness to life? Or, is it because there really is more beauty and goodness to life that I'm not realizing?

Other Person's Response: If someone says you can become more of a person, that's already implying you're less of a person. That's already saying you're less of a person than someone else. For example, if someone lives his life to the fullest, and he tells you that you can become a better person by living your life to the fullest, then that's already saying you're less than he is.

It's saying you're inferior to him, since he's the better person, living his life to the fullest, while you're living your life somewhat to the fullest, or nearly to the fullest. So, maybe, he should say you can just simply live your life to the fullest, rather than saying you can become a better person. This argument also applies to all scenarios where people tell you that you can become a better person.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

My Reply: So, if someone says he wants me to become a better person by upgrading my values, he shouldn't say that? He should just tell me to upgrade them? That, or he should just tell me to change as a person?

Other Person's Response: If you really can't change your values, then why not treat you as a ****, human being?

My Reply: Should we treat someone in a cruel manner, just because he's in a wheelchair, and incapable of walking? So, should people treat me in a cruel manner, just because I'm incapable of changing my values?

Other Person's Response: I realize you're incapable of many things because, in your Undecided Packet, you say you're incapable of making a decision in regards to topics that have debate. In your Composing Packet, you're incapable of creating music that expresses the awesome emotions you wish to express. Here, in this packet, you're obviously incapable of obtaining greater values into your life. Maybe you just need to develop as a person, and as a composer somehow. Maybe then you'll be capable of all those things you once were incapable of.

My Reply: Or, maybe, this is all I'll ever amount to.

Other Person's Response: So, you're saying you fail at life and composing?

My Reply: Yes. I fail as a human being, and as a composer.

Other Person's Response: Life comes with a lot of unhappy challenges, hardships, and expectations. Life isn't the happy, easy place you want it to be.

My Reply: Personally, I'd prefer a utopia life. Besides, since I'm obviously incapable as a human being, then why give me these challenges and hardships? I fail at them, and that's why I'm better off not having them.

Other Person's Response: What type of person are you? I bet you're the casual type who just lives for his own enjoyment.

My Reply: Yes. I don't put myself through struggles, or anything like that. That means I don't undergo painful training in the military, or anything else of the sort. I also don't have much expression when it comes to my personality. I have a normal, casual tone of voice when speaking to others. However, I do wish to express a lot when it comes to my composing. I wish to create music that expresses powerful, awesome, otherworldly things.

Other Person's Response: Even though you're a person who has a flat expression, when you feel excited, is there a lot of expression within yourself, even though you don't physically express it?

My Reply: Yes. The same idea applies to other emotions I feel. But, when I'm having a miserable struggle, I let others know I'm not doing well, and I don't just bottle it inside.

Other Person's Response: I don't think wanting and liking is the same thing as valuing something. You can not want and like something, but still value it.

My Reply: If a person said he didn't want to go to work, but had to, since it's something he valued, then the very fact there's a form of value there, compelling him to go to work, must mean he really wants to go to work. So, I think valuing something is the same thing as wanting something. Well, if that person was apathetic, then he wouldn't be valuing work, and he'd just be choosing to go. He might claim he still values work, despite his apathy.

But, he really wouldn't, since positive emotions are how we value things, and we can't value things through our character and intellect. My whole argument here also applies to liking. If a person said he didn't like an object, but still valued it as something beautiful, then the very fact it's beautiful to him means he likes it. If he was completely miserable or apathetic though, then he wouldn't be valuing the object as beautiful, regardless of what he claims otherwise..

Other Person's Response: In regards to your interests, I think it's immature if you still like anime, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Super Mario.

My Reply: Many people would tell me to grow out of this. But, there are many people growing up with these things. I know plenty of adults who still love these things. Even anime and video game producers are adults themselves, and love these things. So, if they've grown up with these things, then why can't I?

Other Person's Response: According to you, anime hentai (porn) would have to be divine, since these are sexually erotic characters.

My Reply: Yes. These characters would be divine beings, since they have the power of The Light flowing through them, which motivates them to bond, love, and engage in sexual activities. This is what makes hentai something holy and divine. Many people would think hentai is repulsive. But, people need to look at the inner experience of these characters, rather than judging based on how things appear on the outside. On the inside, there is sheer beauty, divinity, love, and joy within these aroused characters, and people would be dismissing this.

Other Person's Response: You said there are certain emotions which are basic, shallow experiences, while others are more profound experiences. That would also have to apply to feelings of love, attraction, or sexual arousal. If the thought you have towards someone is that he/she isn't that attractive, then you might have a basic, shallow feeling of love, attraction, or sexual arousal towards that person. But, if it's the true soul mate for you, then you'd feel profoundly beautiful love, attraction, or sexual arousal.

My Reply: Correct. As I said before, different thoughts will trigger different emotional responses. If you're a guy, and you're in a relationship that's very basic and shallow, like how any other guy picks up a girl, then you won't feel profoundly beautiful emotions from her. That's why you must pick out your true soul mate. Only then would you feel profound emotions from her. There are factors which determine what your true soul mate would be, whether it be his/her looks, tone of voice, deeds, clothes, etc.

Other Person's Response: If I wish to have the most profoundly beautiful moment with my soul mate, you're saying I must feel the most profound and intense beautiful emotion?

My Reply: Yes. The most powerful and profound positive emotions are what make our lives the greatest.

Other Person's Response: I personally think a relationship founded upon emotional based values is a very shallow relationship.

My Reply: Emotions give us both shallow and profound experiences of love, joy, and beauty. So, any form of beauty in your life, whether it be shallow or profound, can only be experienced through positive emotions.

Other Person's Response: By the way, when you perceive characters as being filled with inner beauty and joy, it's just your own inner universe being filled with beauty and joy because the characters are nothing more than drawings on the screen that have no inner experience. They have no consciousness.

My Reply: Yes. That's an excellent point. When I'm miserable or apathetic, the characters seem like nothing more than animated drawings. There is no beauty or joy attached. But, once I'm fully recovered, and have my positive emotions back to me, it's a whole new world. I find myself completely immersed in a realm of beauty and joy, where I perceive environments and characters as beautiful, amazing, awesome, etc.

Other Person's Response: Animated characters are like robots, since they have no inner experience. They're just animated drawings on the screen. But, since they express a personality, then it would be like robots that are expressing a personality.

My Reply: Yes.

Other Person's Response: An animated character can be experienced in a variety of ways. One person could experience the character as disgusting, while another could experience that character as beautiful. It all depends on who you are as a person.

My Reply: Yes. Different people will have different thoughts and emotions in regards to certain things, situations, and characters. So, a character becomes different in one person's mental reality than another person's. Given this, I'd consider characters to actually be an aspect of an individual's personality. For example, if you're someone who finds cartoons annoying, then the moment you witness a cartoon character, and see that character as annoying, then there's an annoying character residing within your very mental universe, and that annoying image would be a reflection of your personality. I'm not implying that you'd be an annoying person. I'm saying that you're someone who's annoyed by cartoons.

Other Person's Response: In regards to anime and cartoon characters, a person could perceive a character as an empty, animated vessel. But, that vessel still being beautiful to that person.

My Reply: During my miserable moments, the characters were empty vessels who were morbidly stripped of perceived beauty.

Other Person's Response: When you're miserable, and perceive characters, and their environments, as morbidly stripped of beauty and greatness, how do you respond to other people who perceive them as beautiful, great, and enjoy them?

My Reply: I find myself asking why these people attribute such significance and importance to them, since they're nothing but drawn characters and landscapes on the screen. But, once I'm happy and enjoying my life again, I perceive/experience the world of anime and video games like it should be. In other words, I become just like those other people who enjoyed them, and experienced them as awesome, magnificent, and beautiful.

Other Person's Response: Are you saying that, during your moments of joy, characters seem like living entities, rather than just characters which have been drawn, and animated on the screen?

My Reply: Correct. Any given character would seem like an actual living presence. If I were to experience a character's beauty and greatness when I'm not looking at the character (such as when I'm just thinking about the character), then it would be like there's an actual living presence of beauty and greatness looming over me. When I experience a character's beauty and greatness when looking at the character on the screen, then it's like there's a living presence of beauty and greatness on the screen.

Other Person's Response: Imagine if Japanese animators created characters they perceived as just animated drawings. It would be a dull, boring job being an animator. It's that perception of characters being a beautiful, living presence which makes being an animator something beautiful.

My Reply: Yes. Without positive emotions, nothing has any beauty.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: When you try to let your mind be free of any worry you're having, and just allow yourself to be immersed in the beauty and joy of anime and video games, does it sometimes work?

My Reply: No, it doesn't. When I try to let my mind be free of worry, that only causes my mind to focus more on the worry. Thus, I feel worse. The only thing that eases a worry I'm having would be time.

Other Person's Response: I personally think hentai is repulsive.

My Reply: When soulmates attract and bond, that's a beautiful thing. Therefore, since the sexual acts you witness in hentai are acts of attraction and bonding, then hentai is something beautiful.

Other Person's Response: You should be ashamed that you think hentai is beautiful.

My Reply: I don't care about the personal views and opinions of others. Only my views matter to me. That's why I disagree with the views of others who say it's wrong to live my life as a hedonist, it's wrong to live my life not serving a god, my positive emotions aren't the source of beauty in my life, my musical tunes in my head are awful, etc. In short, I really don't listen to anyone.

Other Person's Response: If a pedophile had sex with a child, but it was completely harmless to the child (let's pretend), what would you think of that?

My Reply: I would have nothing against that pedophile. If anyone has anything against him, then they're just judging him because he'd be doing no harm to the child. As a matter of fact, he'd just be expressing his love and attraction towards the child.

Other Person's Response: When you look at beautiful Christmas lights, you're getting nothing more than a reward stimulation to your brain. It's just your brain really liking those lights. It's nothing holy or divine.

My Reply: I disagree. It's literally the experience of beauty. I would be experiencing the beauty of different lights. For example, I could experience the beauty of a red light, a blue one, a green one, etc. This beautiful state is the opposite of suffering, hell, and misery. The opposite of that would have to be a divine state.

Other Person's Response: Speaking of anime, there are characters who use their negative emotions for good purposes. For example, there are characters who transform into dark, enraged beasts. But, they use their transformations for justice. Personally, I think it would be better to be one of these dark beasts, working for justice, rather than some hentai addict.

My Reply: All inner negativity, no matter if it's used for justice, is inner corruption. As you can see, it doesn't matter if you're a being of negativity who's working for justice, since you still don't have that inner, holy light to make you and your life beautiful.

Other Person's Response: So, according to you, this divine, holy light (positive emotions) is the ultimate thing in this universe, and nothing can replace it, whether it be working for justice, or anything else?

My Reply: That's correct. It's the inner beauty and joy to a person's life, and nothing can replace that.

Other Person's Response: I don't think the brain works the way you insist it works. Our intellect can be a real source of value in our lives.

My Reply: Think of it this way. Visual signals get sent to the t.v., which create a visual display. But, the signals themselves are just signals. So, how I think value works is that it's akin to a visual display on the t.v. popping up. If you're not getting that signal, then that means no visual display. In this case, if you're not getting any emotional signal to your brain, such as due to a mental illness or some other factor, then that means no value in your life.

Other Person's Response: You know what? I think the difference between us is that I do not see positive emotions as a fundamental requirement for my existence. Yeah, they are nice. But, I do not need them to live. I can exist in the worst of hells, and I can live out my purpose in life, which is to help others, even in the worst of hells.

I long for happiness and pleasure. But, I've come to realize those things are not my reason for living. So, if they never come to me again (I've had heaven on Earth before. Perhaps this is why I'm so aware of the hell I'm in now), then I'll still be OK.

My purpose is not to be happy, or to enjoy life. My purpose in life is to help others, and help the world progress as a whole. Sure, a lot of the time I feel miserable because I'm being asked to do so much. I've just come to accept that this is how things are going to be for me.

My Reply: Sure, you don't need positive emotions to live. But, you do need them to have positivity in your life. A life without positivity is no way to live or be an artist. That's why misery and unhappiness is no way to live or be an artist. I'm trying to prove this to you and convince you of this. That's why I've written all these packets. Consider it a form of proselytizing or preaching if you want.

I'm also sharing my own personal experience and insights, which is another reason why I've written all of this. Lastly, I think people, who are selfless and giving, are deluding themselves into believing there's more beauty to life than positive emotions. This is because they won't accept the harsh truth that positive emotions are the only way life can be beautiful. Instead, they wish to go beyond their selfish, hedonistic nature, and convince themselves there's more beauty to life, when there never was.

Other Person's Response: Just because I'm not a selfish piece of **** like you doesn't mean I need to be insulted and preached to!

My Reply: All I'm saying here is that I don't live my life like a slave to other people. I don't do things for the world if it made me feel unhappy or miserable. Instead, I truly pay attention to what mental state allows me to have positive experiences. I've come to realize that mental state is clearly my positive emotions. People who live their lives like slaves to others do so blindly without coming to such realizations. That's why I think selfless, giving people are blind and delusional to the fact that positive emotions are the real source of positivity in life.

Other Person's Response: I'm going to quote something you said and respond to it:

Lastly, I think people, who are selfless and giving, are deluding themselves into believing there's more beauty to life than positive emotions. This is because they won't accept the harsh truth that positive emotions are the only way life can be beautiful. Instead, they wish to go beyond their selfish, hedonistic nature, and convince themselves there's more beauty to life, when there never was.

I don't agree. If a person gets some pleasure out of helping someone else, this is gratification. Gratification is a good emotion. So, there are no delusions in most cases. There are some people who only do things for gratification, which could make them selfish. Looking for recognition. But, I don't think that the average, kind person is delusional.

My Reply: You're right. Gratification is a positive emotion. But, I'm talking about people who can't feel positive emotions, due to brain defects, or other factors, such as people struggling with chronic depression. These people would be delusional to believe there's more beauty to life than positive emotions.

Other Person's Response: I understand just how frustrating it is to live a life that goes against one's own personal values. My values come from helping others and contributing to the world. Imagine just how frustrating it would be for me if I was put in a position where I could no longer help and contribute to others. From this, I can only imagine how frustrating it is for you to lose your positive emotions. Fortunately, I do believe in the Law of Attraction. If you really want something, you can have it. If I intended to be rich, and did whatever I could to try to achieve this dream, eventually, I would be rich.

So, I say, if your positive emotions are what give beauty and joy to your life, then intend to keep them intact, and find ways to recover them if you lose them. That way, you can have them to live the happy dream life you want to live. With all those miserable struggles you've had, you were only attracting more and more negativity/misery in your life through your unhealthy thought processes. We manifest/create our reality through our way of thinking, and your goal should be to create the life you want to live.

My Reply: If this is true, then I would've been working against myself unknowingly. But, I really consider it to be god, or these spiritual beings, to be working against me, since they could've at least created me as a being who's incapable of experiencing misery, suffering, and an absence of positive emotions.

Now, if this Law of Attraction doesn't exist, then god and/or these beings would be really working against me here because this would mean, if I lose my positive emotions, then I'm screwed, and only a matter of luck and time can bring them back. But, if the Law of Attraction is real, then god/these beings would've at least given me something to make sure I live the dream life I want to live.

Of course, I need my emotions to want something, as I mentioned before. Anyway, it could be the case the Law of Attraction is real because my mother intends to win the lottery (Power Ball), and I notice many strange coincidences, such as how the lottery numbers she dreams of actually come true, with only a few numbers off.

For example, with the Pick 3, she dreamed of the numbers "514," and the numbers that came true were "524." She claims this is how it's been for her for 2 months now, and she's trying to find a way to match lottery numbers perfectly. She suspects it's a curse that's preventing her from winning the lottery, and she does spells to try to break the curse.

If she breaks the curse, then she thinks she can win millions of dollars. Now, she said there were times she dreamed of numbers that perfectly matched. But, bad karma stopped her because there were events that prevented her from playing those numbers.

She thinks there are people who instinctively know, through their spirits, that she's going to win and, as a result, try to stop her from winning. She thinks these people hate poor people, and don't want them rising to riches.

However, there was a time where my younger brother got into a heated argument with my mother and, as a result, she didn't play 3 numbers. These 3 numbers actually came to pass. So, perhaps it's not people out to stop her from winning because my younger brother wasn't out to stop her. Rather, it's simply bad karma preventing her from winning.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Why does your mother think she can win the lottery when so many people in this world intend to win, but don't?

My Reply: Other people would say it's because she thinks she's somehow special. But, I really don't know why. Maybe she thinks she has a spiritual gift that allows her to tap into numbers that other people don't have. Not only that, she does spells to try to win, and perhaps she thinks that not too many people do spells. But, if the Law of Attraction is real, then shouldn't so many other people be winning the lottery through their intentions of winning?

Other Person's Response: I don't believe in all of this Law of Attraction bull****, and neither do I believe your mother's claims. Many people in this world won't accept their unfortunate circumstances, whether it be poverty, or an absence of positive emotions. There are so many people who suffer horribly, pray to god, and do all they can. Yet, they still have to live with, and accept their lot in life.

My Reply: You could be right. In which case, my mother simply won't accept her life of poverty, and she has deluded herself into believing her false claims. As for the claims I'm making that positive emotions are divine, and the only source of beauty in life, I suspect they could be. But, I really don't know. Likewise, my mother could be correct with her claims. But, I really don't know either, since I'm in a position of complete ignorance.

Other Person's Response: In regards to your mother's financial issues, I don't believe there's a such thing as spiritual forces, god, or an afterlife. So, your mother is going to have to earn money the normal way, since it would be pointless for her to do spells, prayers, etc.

My Reply: That might be.

Other Person's Response: There are spiritual forces of evil at work. They prey on our weaknesses, so they can induce suffering. Your mother's weakness is that, when things prevent her from earning the money she needs, that causes her to suffer, since it makes her feel negative emotions, such as misery, rage, and despair. But, if your mother had no desire for money, then her living a poor life, and not earning much money, wouldn't bother her.

That means those forces of evil couldn't make her suffer, or make her feel rage. Desire is the source of suffering because, when our expectations aren't met, that causes us to feel negative emotions. By giving up our desires, we eliminate our suffering. That's why spiritual believers, as well as Buddhists, talk about giving up our desires. We should just accept our lives, whether it be a life of poverty, illness, or disease, rather than desiring a better life.

My Reply: I don't think she should just accept her life of poverty. Perhaps there is a way for her to earn the money she desires. She wants to buy the things she needs, I need, and she also wishes to give money to the poor. As for me, when I don't get the things I want, that doesn't normally cause me to suffer. So, you can have the thought of wanting and desiring things, but said thought not causing you any misery or rage. I think it's a lack of acceptance that causes suffering.

If you accept your current situation while, at the same time, desiring something, such as money or happiness, it would be a form of desire that causes you no suffering. Basically, if you're not getting money or happiness, a mindset that would cause you no suffering would be one, such as: "Oh well. I'll just keep trying to earn money or happiness," rather than: "It's the most horrible, unacceptable thing if I don't get my money or happiness!"

Other Person's Response: Since you've accepted a life without positive emotions, but still desire them, then this would be a form of desire that brings you no suffering?

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: Maybe your mother should accept her poverty while, at the same time, still desiring money.

My Reply: It's up to her what mindset she wishes to have.

Other Person's Response: Your desire is happiness, while your mother's desire is money. Materialistic things are very fleeting, and there's so much more to life than being rich or being happy.

My Reply: Happiness is what literally gives life beauty and worth though, and I've presented all my arguments that support why. So, happiness isn't the same thing as some materialistic desire, like money. Happiness is a state of being that literally makes life beautiful and worth living.

Other Person's Response: What if your mother never earns the big money she wants to earn?

My Reply: Then that would be unfortunate.

Other Person's Response: Does your mother think she's cursed, and that this curse is preventing her from earning the money she wants?

My Reply: Yes. She thinks people are cursing her. But, perhaps nobody is cursing her, and life itself is the curse. Life is a curse for many people, and a blessing for some. For example, some people are born and die shortly, due to a horrible illness. Some people also have much bad luck in their lives. However, there are the rich, happy people who live long, and have much good luck in their lives. Maybe we're all like different characters, playing the movie we call "life." Some people play roles of riches, wealth, and happiness, while others play less fortunate roles of poverty, misery, and just plain bad luck. Some people can rise out of their pits of misfortune, while some remain stuck in it.

Other Person's Response: Why do some people live unfortunate lives, while others live great lives?

My Reply: Many people would say it's because life is a cruel joke for some people. For example, generous folks, struggling in poverty, while cruel, heartless people wallow in riches, is considered a cruel joke.

Other Person's Response: I'm living a miserable existence, and I wish to end this cruel joke right now by ending my life!

My Reply: Be careful. An even crueler joke might be played on you if you end your life. You might be living a miserable afterlife for all of eternity, while those rich, happy folks get to live the blissful afterlife of their dreams for eternity.

Other Person's Response: Does your mother have delusions, hallucinations, and schizophrenia? If so, this could explain her delusional claims.

My Reply: She does. So, you could be right. As for me and my brother, we don't have hallucinations and schizophrenia. Some people would say that I do have delusions though. Actually, as I said before, I don't believe anything, and remain in a position of complete ignorance. I'm open-minded to things. But, if I have suspicions that something could be true, then I write and share it to give people an open mind. This means I'm simply writing about, and sharing, my own personal experiences. Consider it a journal.

Other Person's Response: Why refer to positive emotions as being divine energy?

My Reply: If there's activity going on in the brain, then that's energy. If you're thinking about something, then there's thought activity in the brain, and that would be energy. If you're hearing sound, then that's activity in the audio cortex, and that would be energy. But, there's only one type of energy that is divine energy, and that would be the activity in the areas of the brain that allow us to feel positive emotions. Therefore, when a person feels motivated, or pumped up to do something, such as dancing, that person is pumped up with divine energy. When a person feels intense love and attraction for a soul mate, that person would be powered up with intense, divine energy.

Other Person's Response: So, if you experienced the beauty and greatness of Michael Jackson, it would be like his beauty and greatness is flowing through you, and has become a part of you?

My Reply: Correct. But, it wouldn't be MJ's own energy flowing through me, since he didn't project his energy into me. Rather, it would just be my own experience, created by my way of thinking, which caused me to feel beauty and greatness.


Other Person's Response: You're right when you say that perception is a vital and precious thing. Seeing your life in a whole new way will change your life completely. The same idea applies to the way you perceive yourself, and others around you. It will be as though you have become a whole new person when you see yourself in a whole new way, and other people would be like whole new people when you see them from a new perspective.

My Reply: That's why I need my positive emotions because they're what allow me to see things in life from a beautiful or amazing perspective. I can't stand seeing myself, others, and things in my life from a negative perspective. That's why I want to avoid negative emotions.

For example, during my miserable moments, these miserable emotions completely defecate over works of art that would have otherwise been beautiful and amazing. In other words, the artwork gets completely ruined and distorted from my perspective when I'm miserable.

Every moment becomes ruined and stripped of all beauty and greatness when I'm miserable. Not only that, but famous artists are lowered down to puny, insignificant, morbid, ugly beings. I'm not saying that to be offensive in any way. That's just the effect my miserable emotions have on me.

Other Person's Response: So, you're basically saying that your positive emotions are the only things that allow you to see beauty in life, yourself, and in others?

My Reply: Correct. In a way, I'd consider my positive emotions to be like the sense of sight. If you are blind, you can no longer see objects. When I don't have my positive emotions, I can no longer see beauty in life. Just thinking that my life is beautiful doesn't allow me to see beauty, just as how a blind person can't see objects just by thinking of them. Thus, the blind person can only acknowledge the existence of objects without seeing them with his own eyes. Likewise, I can only acknowledge beauty without my positive emotions, but can't see it.

Other Person's Response: I don't think your sight analogy works well.

My Reply: When your brain doesn't get the visual signal, you can't see things. Likewise, when your brain doesn't get the emotional signal, you can't see beauty or horror in things. So, I think the sight analogy, along with the t.v. analogy I made earlier, works.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Do you have any other analogy besides your sight and t.v. analogy?

My Reply: Yes. If you were in a pitch black cave, and there is no light, then you can't see the gold. But, once there is light, you can see gold. My positive emotions are like the light that allow me to see beauty in life. Without them, then I'm in a pitch black cave, so to speak. I can no longer see beauty (gold). As long as there's no light, then just thinking or believing there's gold in that dark cave won't allow me to see the gold.

Other Person's Response: I understand now. A blind person can only perceive the idea of colors, and not any real colors. The same thing applies to a deaf person. A deaf person can only perceive the idea of sound, but not any real sound. Likewise, a person, who can't feel positive emotions, can only perceive the idea of beauty, but not any real beauty.

My Reply: Correct. Your brain needs that audio and visual signal to perceive sound and colors. If a therapist asked you to think of colors, then that thought would send the signal to the visual cortex, which would allow you to perceive those colors in your mind. But, if that thought couldn't send the signal, then you couldn't perceive those colors in your mind.

The same idea applies to hearing things. Thoughts of certain noises make us hear those noises in our minds. But, not getting the audio signal from those thoughts would render us not hearing those noises in our minds. Likewise, when a person doesn't get an emotional signal to his brain when he thinks of horrible or beautiful things, he can't perceive beauty or horror.

Other Person's Response: If emotions are needed to make things beautiful or horrible, then how could a person, without emotions, still assess things as beautiful or horrible?

My Reply: You can still acknowledge certain things and acts as being beautiful, righteous, better, or horrible without feeling any emotion, just as how you can still acknowledge colors, sounds, forms of physical pain, etc. without perceiving colors, sounds, or feeling any physical pain.

Other Person's Response: I, myself, am an Emotional Theorist who agrees there's no more beauty to life than positive emotions. You've arrived at this truth through your own personal experience, and nothing can convince you there's more beauty to life, since you know the truth. There are many blind, deluded people in this world. But, you're smarter than them, since you realize the truth.

My Reply: I'm not sure if this is the case. I mean, there could be more beauty to life that I'm not realizing.

Other Person's Response: If your emotional state is the only thing that allows you to perceive beauty and greatness, then that makes you blind to the beauty and greatness of things during your miserable, unhappy, or apathetic moments. It also makes you blind to the horror and tragedy of things in this world during your happy moments.

My Reply: Yes. Some people might say it's my lack of knowledge and life experience limiting me. I'm not sure if that's true. For example, someone who doesn't know that much, and has very little experience when it comes to art, won't be able to see the flaws in artwork. That's clearly the case for me. But, someone who's very experienced, and has much knowledge, will clearly be able to see the flaws. The same rule might apply to beauty, horror, etc. My lack of knowledge and life experience might be preventing me from seeing more beauty and horror through my thoughts and beliefs alone.

Other Person's Response: I say your lack of knowledge and life experience is also rendering you making awful analogies, making poor arguments, making awful music, writing poorly, and you name it! I realize the packets you make are philosophical. But, you can't expect to be a good philosopher when your knowledge is so limited.

My Reply: I don't care if I'm a good philosopher or not; I think it's still important that therapists, and other people, understand why my positive emotions are the only source of beauty in my life. Think of someone who just wants to write and share his personal views. That person wouldn't really care if he's a good philosopher or not. It's the views themselves that are important, and need to be shared. For example, my mother doesn't know anything about philosophy. But, she still writes and shares her personal experiences/arguments in her journal.

Other Person's Response: I don't think emotions work like our senses.

My Reply: Emotions aren't senses, and neither are there sense organs indicating emotions are senses. But, in a way, emotions are like our senses because, if you smelled or tasted an orange, then that is a sensation. Thus, it is a sensual experience. Emotions are also sensual experiences.

Therefore, if you were to feel a positive emotion from looking at an orange, it would be like you're getting a taste, or a smell, from that orange. Except, the location of this sensation can be pinpointed in the mind, rather than on our tongue, or in our nostrils.

This is because emotions are sensations in the mind, rather than bodily sensations. Yes, all sensations are produced by the brain, which technically classifies all of them as mental sensations. But, all bodily sensations can be pinpointed in areas of the body, while emotions are an exception. Lastly, emotions are sensations of beauty, horror, etc.

Other Person's Response: I don't think something having value and worth is the same thing as something having significance. A given thing can have value and worth, but have no significance.

My Reply: Personally, I think, when something has value and worth to you, that's the same thing as something having significance to you. So, I think they're the same thing.

Other Person's Response: A relationship, founded upon emotional based values, just won't work out, and will fall apart. That's why there has to be more value to a relationship than how the soulmates feel.

My Reply: I personally think happy soulmates is the relationship that was meant to be. If you're someone who struggles with depression, then you're better off giving up on your relationship until you can somehow regain your positive emotions. I mean, if positive emotions are the only way to have a positive outlook in your life and your relationship, then what's the point of having a relationship if you can't see anything positive about it? Given this, I think a happy couple in a Disney Paradise is the right relationship to have, rather than a couple struggling together with miserable, unhappy emotions, and doing their best to carry on.

Other Person's Response: I heard composing is the only subject you wish to learn, and that you have no knowledge and experience when it comes to life, or any other given subject. I would highly suggest you learn other things because learning more and experiencing more shows a sign of character growth and maturity.

My Reply: The only things I needed to learn would be things that are necessary, such as how to cook things in the microwave, or how to write (which is what I've learned in school). If I hadn't learned that, then I wouldn't be able to write, and share these packets of mine. Other than that, I'm focused on learning one thing (which would be how to compose). I'm also autistic, and autistic people tend to be focused on only one thing.

They also tend to have repetitive behavior. Lastly, I have no passion for exercising, which means I don't lift weights, or jog. But, I still walk on the treadmill anyway, since this is necessary to keep my blood circulation going in order to keep myself alive. There were a few times where I did a bit of a heavy workout. But, it just wasn't my passion. As you can see here, I only do things, and learn things, that are absolutely necessary, or things I have a passion for.

Other Person's Response: In regards to Buddhism, Buddhists would say the things we want in life are very fleeting, and we should give up our desires through practice and meditation.

My Reply: I personally don't like the Buddhist way of living. Neither would my mother. She intends to win the lottery, and she's not going to give up so easily. The way I see it, we're much better off being in heaven, so we can get whatever we desire. If my mother can't be rich here on Earth, then she can be rich all she wants in heaven. I really don't like how life is not suitable for each individual's desires, and how the individual is forced into a position of having to give up his/her desires. It's a life of acceptance and hardship, which I really hate. But, heaven would fix that problem.

Other Person's Response: I have some advice for you. I'm not saying this will change your life, or reduce your suffering. But, what I'm saying here is that, when faced with emotional hardship, such as those miserable moments, to just let go and forget about how unfair life is, how all the beauty and joy has been taken away from you, and how a miserable life is unacceptable.

Instead, just allow yourself to be in that miserable state, and don't fight it until, one day, you fully recover, and have your joy all back to you. Having this mindset is surely to reduce any further suffering, and any violent emotions.

Imagine if I lost something dear and precious to me. By wanting that thing back in my life so badly, I'd surely be driven to rage, and I'd only bring further suffering upon myself. So, by just letting go of that thing, I'd reduce my turmoil.

My Reply: I have, in fact, had this mindset during my struggles. Yes, it does reduce violent emotions, and further suffering. But, the fact is, I was still miserable, which means I was still suffering. So, all this mindset really does for me is just prevents me from harming myself and/or others. It doesn't change my life, and it doesn't give any beauty to my life and hobbies. I realize Buddhists would tell you to have a certain mindset, which would be to let go of unacceptable circumstances in order to reduce your suffering. But, something more than that is needed for one's life to be beautiful and worth living. That something would be the positive emotions.

Other Person's Response: If you ever lose your positive emotions, and can't sufficiently or fully regain them, what do you plan on doing?

My Reply: I heard there is a machine I can buy from a man named Alex Chiu. This machine is said to cure illnesses and diseases. It is said to heal the brain and body. That's what I plan on buying and using to restore my positive emotions. For now, I've bought the Immortality Rings from him. The rings aren't as powerful as the machine, and the machine is more expensive. So, if the rings work, but have little effect in restoring my positive emotions, then I'll buy the machine, and use that.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: I heard Alex Chiu is a crazy, ridiculous madman.

My Reply: Personally, I have no issue with him at all. Besides, it's not about the person selling the product. It's about the product itself, and if it really works. You could have the most amazing, compassionate person selling a crap product that doesn't work, and you could also have a very horrible, cruel person selling a wonderful product.

The products Alex sells make use of magnetic therapy, and magnetic therapy has been said to heal a lot of people. But, I've heard Alex's products are much better than ones, such as magnetic healing bracelets (which are very popular). So, that's why I stick with his products.

Another thing is that he sells bottles of herbs, which are said to greatly increase the effectiveness of his products. You can't get these bottles anywhere else. There are 2 of his bottles that come to mind, and the 1st one would be called "Gorgeous Pill." The 2nd would be "Super Chi Flush."

Other Person's Response: Very interesting. You always talk about how living long and being happy is so precious to you. If Alex's products work, then they would give you longevity and happiness. Thus, you can ensure that you live a very long life, and that your positive emotions remain intact!

My Reply: In which case, I hope his products really do work. I heard many reports that they do work.

Other Person's Response: Where did you hear about Alex Chiu and his products?

My Reply: I looked up ways to live long online, and discovered this youtube video. This video mentions Alex:

Other Person's Response: I heard Alex's machine is $124.

My Reply: Although it's a bit more expensive, I do plan on getting it someday. In case I ever develop severe damage to my body and/or organs, have some severe illness, or can't sufficiently regain my positive emotions by the rings (if they do work), then I'll have the machine there.

The machine is even said to cure handicaps, depression, heart disease, asthma, and diabetes. I could be mentally handicapped, since I had special education in my school years, and perhaps this machine can cure my handicap. I could have much more intellectual capacity with this machine.

Other Person's Response: At the time I'm writing this response, I realize it's been a while since you've ordered those rings. Are they working for you?

My Reply: First of all, these rings are said to heal the body by causing the brain to release healing chemicals. Your body is supposed to heal faster than it ages. Thus, stopping the aging process, and even reversing it to make you look younger.

The user of these rings is instructed to lay down on the bed while wearing them, rather than standing or moving around. This will allow the brain to release those healing chemicals because it's during resting, or sleeping, that the brain will release those chemicals through the use of these rings.

Sleeping is said to result in the greatest release of these chemicals. That's why Alex recommends wearing them during sleep. When the user keeps on wearing them, eventually, he should experience healing symptoms, and see results. Some even experience symptoms and see results immediately while, for others, it takes longer.

I've experienced tingling from these rings, and that could be the rings increasing blood circulation. However, what I've experienced might've simply been my hands and arms warming up underneath the blankets. So, it might've had nothing to do with the rings. I'm not having any changes in my physical appearance from these rings.

The reason might be because, since this worry is keeping my positive emotions turned off, then it might also be turning off the release of those healing chemicals that are needed in order for the rings to work. A troubled psyche might not heal the body all that well, and maybe only a relaxed, trouble-free psyche can.

Other Person's Response: I think the rings should still work for you, even with all that stress and worry.

My Reply: Since there is one factor that prevents the rings from working, such as standing or exercising, then I figure there are other factors as well that can prevent the rings from working. My worry might be another one of those factors. This means I can't use the rings right now to try to prevent aging, or restore my positive emotions if this is the case.

But, I'll still use them anyway in the hopes they will work. Now, even if I do fully recover, I continue to use these rings, and they still do nothing for me, then I'll still consider purchasing the machine because, maybe, the rings just aren't working for me for whatever reason, and I need a more powerful device. After all, I'm desperate to live a long, happy life and, thus, I'm willing to purchase the machine.

Other Person's Response: You could just purchase the foot braces, which are more powerful than the rings. When wearing them, they must be worn with the rings. There are even the Neodymium foot braces, which cost $200. But, Alex doesn't offer these types of foot braces on his site. You have to call him if you want them.

My Reply: Thanks for the information.

Other Person's Response: Could you show me these personal testimonies of people you claim exist?

My Reply: Sure. Here is a link to them. These people display their e-mail address, and I think these are real people, giving their personal testimonies, and aren't a team of con artists, creating fake testimonies, just to make it look like these rings work, when they really don't. It could be a con though, but am not sure:

<meta NAME="description" CONTENT="New invention allows humans to live forever."> <meta name="keywords" content="health, long life, disease, medicine, medical, invention, science"> <meta NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0"> <title>C:\alexchu\eternallife\proof.htm

Other Person's Response: It says on the Gorgeous Pill bottle to use it with the rings while awake and that, if you go to sleep, the healing effects wear off.

My Reply: When you wear the rings by themselves, then wearing them to sleep would be the best thing. As for the Gorgeous Pill, that might be an exception.

Other Person's Response: If these rings really do work for you, then that will make you a super human. Sure, you won't be immune to fatal events, such as a gun shot, or a car accident. But, you'd still be quite a remarkable human being with these rings, nonetheless.

I realize many people have used those rings (in the link you've pointed out), and claimed they've worked. But, when you take into consideration the entire world's population, very few people on this Earth know about these rings, and use them. If they do work for you, then you'll be one of the very few super humans on this Earth.

My Reply: That would be something to celebrate then if it's true. Well, I need my positive emotions to celebrate that moment. Without my positive emotions, then I could celebrate the moment in terms of my actions and tone of voice. But, I wouldn't be celebrating the moment internally since, on the inside, I'd be an empty vessel, or filled with negativity. How you are on the inside is how you will see the world on the outside. Therefore, if you are dead, or filled with negativity on the inside, then your whole world will be empty, or filled with negativity from your perspective.

Other Person's Response: I hope you fully recover, so that these rings work for you! In the meantime, keep trying the rings, and maybe they'll work for you. Do you have any updates on how the rings are doing for you?

My Reply: Actually, I do. I've worn these rings when I was feeling hungry, and I could feel persistent tingling in my hands and arms. It's the type of tingling you feel when your arms and hands have fallen asleep. Except, I don't think my hands and arms have fallen asleep. Neither do I think they were warming up.

This could be the real deal this time. The rings might actually be working now. Then again, the tingling might be something else, and might have nothing to do with the rings. I know that, when I have taken the rings off and put them up, that tingling still persisted, but wasn't as intense. So, that tingling might've had nothing to do with the rings.

Or, the rings really were working, and I was simply experiencing the lingering effects of them. But, let's assume for a moment that the rings really are working now, I think the reason they're working now is because having an empty stomach allows the rings to have their healing effects. When you eat a full meal, your body's energy can't be used for healing. Some of it can. But, not that much.

For example, I think people who fast (don't eat) see their cuts and wounds healing much faster. I'm not saying I'm going to go on a heavy fast. I'm simply making a point here. Anyway, like I was saying. I've been using the rings and the Gorgeous Pill as instructed. It says to use them something like 2 or 3 hours after eating a full meal. With the Gorgeous Pill, you are supposed to eat some spinach with it.

But, I don't think you're supposed to fill yourself up with spinach because you need some of your body's energy for healing when you put the rings on. Even though I've been using the pill and rings as instructed, they still weren't working for me. But, the moment I decided to use the rings when I was hungry, that's when I started noticing something.

So, I think I simply needed to wait a little longer until I felt hungry in order for the rings, and the Gorgeous Pill, to work. I've taken the rings off, put them up, and ate something for now. Tonight, I'm going to wait until I feel hungry, try the Gorgeous Pill again, and then put the rings on again. From there, I'm not going to eat anything.

Hopefully, I'll start to notice symptoms and see results as I continue to use the rings, and the Gorgeous Pill, while not eating. Of course, I'm not going to starve myself all day everyday. I will eat what I need to eat throughout the day. But, when night time comes, I'll wait until I'm hungry.

As a matter of fact, I will starve myself the rest of the night when wearing the rings to bed, and see how that works. If I don't notice anything when I continue to use the rings when I feel hungry, then that tingling symptom could've just been a fluke thing, and had nothing to do with the rings.

If I do continue to experience tingling when using the rings and feeling hungry, then the rings might be working, after all. But, I do hear this symptom eventually wears off, since the body gets used to it. However, that doesn't mean the rings have stopped working. It just means your body has gotten used to it.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Other Person's Response: Even if you do continue to experience tingling, or start noticing results when using these rings, that could be a placebo effect. Many skeptics claim this.

My Reply: That could be. But, then again, it's usually paranoia and belief that results in the placebo effect. For example, if you feel very paranoid, or believe that you're going to have aches and pains in your body from a certain product, then, chances are, you'll feel aches and pains. But, it wasn't from the product. It was from your own mind.

The same idea applies to the rings. I would have to feel paranoid, or believe the rings will work, in order for that tingling to be a placebo effect. I don't feel paranoid at all, and neither do I believe the rings will work, since I'm undecided when it comes to many things, and I merely keep an open mind.

As a matter of fact, I feel completely relaxed, and my mind is clear when wearing the rings. Actually, I'm mostly apathetic right now, since I still don't fully have my positive emotions recovered back to me. So, I don't feel any sense of paranoia or belief. If that tingling isn't a placebo effect, then what is it? Well, the rings could be working, or maybe it's something else causing the tingling.

Other Person's Response: What if the skeptics are wrong?

My Reply: Then they would be having too high of a standard, which results in them dismissing certain claims. People, who have too high of a standard, often times dismiss things. They overlook things, and just throw them out of the picture.

Other Person's Response: Let's pretend these rings really do work for you, and you start seeing serious results. Would you tell anyone else in your family about these rings?

My Reply: Yes. I have told my mother about them. If she starts seeing my body, and I look much more gorgeous and younger, then she'll believe these rings work, and buy herself a pair. But, she must remember to follow the instructions in regards to the rings and the Gorgeous Pill.

She must also be willing to starve herself when she decides to wear the rings if she wants the healing benefits. She always talks about how it would be a horrible thing for her to die, and for me and my brother to be left without her.

Now's her chance to, not only cure her diseases, such as her heart disease, but to have a young, healthy body, and live as long as she wants to until some fatal event kills her, such as a gun shot, or a car accident.

Other Person's Response: You could eat a meal before bed, and use the rings during the morning when you wake up because, during sleep, you're not eating for many hours.

My Reply: Actually, I don't feel hungry though when I wake up in the morning. I think I have to use the rings when feeling hungry in order for them to work (if they really do work). I did try them in the morning with nothing to eat, and I don't think I've noticed anything. Feeling hungry is a sign that your body needs more food. But, when your body doesn't need more food, then I think your body is still using energy with the food you've already given it. As a result, your body can't devote that energy to healing.

Other Person's Response: I'm just curious as to how many meals you eat per day.

My Reply: I eat 2 meals per day. I don't need 3 meals because I'd be eating when I'm not hungry.

Other Person's Response: Any further update on the rings?

My Reply: Yes. I noticed that tingling sensation again when using the rings tonight while feeling hungry. The rings could be working, or maybe something else is really causing the tingling. However, if the rings are working, it could have nothing to do with me feeling hungry on an empty stomach. I will, therefore, try the rings again a few hours after I eat when not feeling hungry.

Other Person's Response: What if feeling hungry is the only way for the rings to work?

My Reply: Then I'll have to use them when feeling hungry. I've heard you can have just one meal a day, and that it won't be unhealthy for your body. People claim fasting actually has health benefits. But, people who have heart disease, or other medical conditions, should consult a physician before fasting. If I see results, and my mother wishes to buy herself a pair of rings, then she should pay attention to see if she notices that tingling sensation when she's feeling hungry, or not feeling hungry.

Other Person's Response: Do you have any medical condition?

My Reply: No.

Other Person's Response: I don't think fasting is healthy, and will cause you health problems down the road. That's just my personal opinion. You need enough food, just as how you need enough sleep, or enough exercise.

My Reply: I could fast only a few hours (like 2 or 3 hours) when using the rings, and don't have to fast all night. I'll see how that works for me if it's the case that feeling hungry is the only way these rings will work for me. I heard you're supposed to use the rings all night to get the full healing benefits. Hopefully, 2 or 3 hours a day would be good enough to stop and reverse aging.

As for fasting being unhealthy, I really don't know on that one. I hear people experience symptoms when fasting, such as low energy and concentration. But, I'm not sure if that's an ominous sign of potential health problems to come if fasting is continued. I do know that, for example, when a person is at a very high altitude, such as a mountain, that person does experience symptoms, due to less oxygen.

But, eventually, the person gets used to it, and no longer experiences symptoms. There are people who live high on the mountains, and are just fine. This says you can still have some oxygen, and be just fine. But, if you had no air at all, or not a sufficient amount of air to keep yourself alive, you would die. The same idea might apply to food.

I could eat one meal a day, experience symptoms, those symptoms go away, and I fast like this the remainder of my life, with no health problems as a result. But, if I had no food at all, or didn't have the sufficient amount of food to keep myself alive, I would experience serious health problems, and die.

Now, if I did a one meal fast per day, experienced symptoms, but those symptoms never went away, then it could be the case that fasting like this is bad for my health, and might cause me future health problems. This is because my body wouldn't be adapting (getting used to) the fast.

After all, the body adapting is how these symptoms are eliminated. If my fasting symptoms were to continue, it would, therefore, be unlike the situation of how a person's body gets used to being at a high altitude on a mountain, and still remaining in good health.

Other Person's Response: What if wearing the rings all night, without eating, is the only way to obtain sufficient results from these rings?

My Reply: Then I'll have to take the risk of a one meal fast per day. After all, living a long life is something I think is important to me, and I'm willing to take that risk. I realize there are other ways to live longer, such as eating right and exercising.

But, none of these things actually stop and reverse aging. They only slow down the aging process a bit. Many scientists are still trying to find the cure for aging, and these rings could be that cure these scientists are dismissing, due to their skepticism.

Many scientists completely dismiss things, such as the paranormal, the afterlife, and even the idea of magnetic therapy. People claim there is scientific evidence that magnetic therapy works, and many scientists dismiss this.

Other Person's Response: What if scientists do find the cure for aging? You won't have to take that risk when using the rings.

My Reply: Scientists say they're well on their way to finding the cure for aging. But, that cure might not arrive in my lifetime. I'm not going to wait a decade or two, and find out either. I want to stop and reverse my aging right here and now.

Other Person's Response: I have an idea as to why I think those rings are working for you now. Your chi was directed towards that worry, and wasn't directed towards healing. Since that worry is easing up over time, then maybe more chi is being used for healing.

My Reply: That might be so.

Other Person's Response: Remember, if you need to fast to make the rings work, only do a few hours a day.

My Reply: I'll do that then.

Other Person's Response: You have a lot of will power to even consider eating one meal a day. Yet, here you are, unwilling to pursue your composing when you're miserable. This says to me you're only willing when it comes to the things you desire. You desire to live the longest life you can, which is why you're willing to fast to make the rings work.

But, you're unwilling to be a non hedonist, who lives his life by intellectual based values, since you don't desire to be a non hedonist. In short, you're just too focused on hedonism. You're willing to fully dedicate your life to composing, only when you have your positive emotions. But, you just give up when you don't have them.

My Reply: I'm not sure if that's it. I don't know why my positive emotions are the only source of beauty and joy in my life.

Other Person's Response: Perhaps the reason why your positive emotions are the only source of beauty in your life is because you're unwilling to live a non-hedonistic lifestyle.

My Reply: Again, I don't know if this is the reason why my positive emotions are the only things that make my life beautiful.

Other Person's Response: What if you later find out these rings weren't working for you all along, and you try fasting to make them work, but they still don't work?

 

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My Reply: Then I'll purchase the foot braces. I'll purchase the machine if I need to later on because I think the machine only heals specific areas of the body that have illness or injury, while the rings and foot braces are supposed to heal the whole body. Lastly, perhaps the user sometimes has to use the white rings first in order for the black ones to even work. But, if I try the white ones, and they don't work, then I'll wear the foot braces because they, combined with the black rings, are supposed to deliver a very powerful healing session to the body.

Other Person's Response: You should really save your money or, to be more specific, your mother's money, since she's the one buying you these products.

My Reply: These rings and foot braces are my one and only opportunity to live a very long life, and I don't want to pass up that opportunity. If they really do work, then I would've made a wise purchase. If they don't work, then at least I tried them.

I mean, if they do work, and I didn't have my mother buy them, then I would've missed out on a grand opportunity, and I'd find myself deeply regretting not having purchased them.

For example, if I was to the point of dying of old age, looked back on the internet, and discovered they really do work for a fact, then I'd be angry at myself for not having bought them when I had the chance.

Other Person's Response: How are the rings doing for you now?

My Reply: Actually, maybe that tingling sensation was something else. I don't notice any effects from the rings yet, and that tingling is gone now. Maybe the rings will work, and it's just that worry preventing them from working. I notice that, when I rest on my arm to create a red spot, that spot stays there, and takes much longer to fade. Normally, it would fade quickly. I think this says my body's healing process is slowed down significantly. Maybe that's the reason why the rings aren't working yet.

Other Person's Response: I have an idea. I think you need to keep yourself warm in order to get results from these rings. If you're cold, and your blood isn't circulating, you might not see results.

My Reply: Since you get results with these rings from their effects of increased blood circulation, then you could be right. When I'm cold, it would take a long, heavy workout to get my body warm. That's what it takes to get my blood circulation going when I'm cold.

So, wearing the rings when I'm cold might not result in the rings significantly increasing blood circulation, so I can get the healing benefits. Therefore, I'll try keeping myself warm as best as I can during this cold season. Maybe then I'll see results as time goes on.

Other Person's Response: If fasting was the only way to make the rings work, but would be harmful and potentially fatal, would you still go through with it?

My Reply: Yes. That's because this could be the only life I have. That means this would be my one and only shot to live the longest life I can live through these rings. I wouldn't want to pass up that opportunity. So, I'd take that risk.

Other Person's Response: If you were a mother, would you choose to endure the pain of child birth?

My Reply: No way! I would avoid such agonizing pain! My goal in life is to be happy as much as I can, and to avoid as much pain, suffering, and misery as possible. In the future, giving birth might no longer be painful, and would instead be pleasurable. That's just my own guess as to what the future would be like because inventors, and scientists, are trying to make our lives easier and more happy, since they're finding ways to eliminate suffering, pain, and illness. A life virtually free of misery, suffering, and illness would be the ideal life. If these Immortality Rings I've purchased work to make me live longer, then I might live to see such a future.

Other Person's Response: I heard those Immortality Rings do help you live longer, and fight off diseases. Will there be some invention in the future even better than these rings?

My Reply: Yes. If these rings somehow don't work for me, but I still live to see such a future, then I'll make use of these inventions. One of these inventions would be nanobots that cure diseases, and stop aging. I will use them whenever they get released to the public.

It's said they'll be released 10 or 20 years from now. I'm not sure, but I think that's what I've heard. I don't have the internet right now to find out. Anyway, if these rings do work for me, then I'll upgrade to the nanobots if they're better. That is, if they're within an affordable price range.

Other Person's Response: Imagine if we were biological machines with no consciousness. We'd be left out of life's experiences, since we wouldn't get to experience any of it. I think it's a wonderful thing we have consciousness to allow us to experience moments, works of art, etc.

My Reply: Without our emotions though, then that would be no better than being a biological machine without consciousness. To say something is better means it's more good, beautiful, and great.

Since our positive emotions are the only things that make life beautiful, good, and great, then this means the only way being a conscious person can be better than being a biological machine, without consciousness, would be if you felt positive emotions.

Feeling negative emotions is worse than being a biological machine without consciousness because a person without consciousness can't experience anything horrible, while a person, who feels negative emotions, experiences suffering, tragedy, hate, disgust, misery, turmoil, etc.

Other Person's Response: You have a very reductionist view of value, since you reduce it down to emotions. It's like those materialists who reduce consciousness to our brains. I think reductionism is a misleading view.

My Reply: My view might be very limiting, but I think it's delusional for people to be convinced of this idea that there's more value to life than emotions.

Other Person's Response: Wouldn't it be great if you could acquire a new personal experience that would give you intellectual-based values?

My Reply: I think we must have the thought/belief form of emotions to value things through our thoughts and beliefs alone (if these emotions do exist). But, even these emotions might be very fleeting.

Other Person's Response: Why can't you value something intellectually? I value my car because I understand what it can do for me, and not because of any emotional relationship I have with it.

And even those things which I have emotional attachments to, such as my wife, I understand her value to my life. I know what would disappear if I lost her, and many of those are things that are useful and helpful to me.

Can it really be different for you?

The branch of philosophy that considers value is called axiology if that interests you.

My Reply: If there are intellectual based values, then it seems I don't have the capacity to value things intellectually.

Other Person's Response: There's more to life than emotions, and I think we can value things intellectually.

My Reply: Since emotions make things matter to us and allow us to value things, then that means emotions are a synonym for valuing something, and something mattering to us. Therefore, in order for our intellect to make things matter to us, and allow us to value things, this would have to mean there's an intellectual form of emotions.

But, like I said, thoughts and emotions can't be the same thing. That's why I think thoughts and beliefs can never make things matter to us, and allow us to value things. Even if intellectual emotions did exist, they might be fleeting like our primitive, instinctive emotions. That means they can get shut off when our brains aren't properly functioning.

Other Person's Response: I find it interesting how emotions are like different realms of beauty, joy, horror, etc. for our minds.

My Reply: What's even more interesting is that I could be in my own house, but I could mentally be in the beauty and joy of my previous home, or some other home. So, in a way, it would be like I'm living in my previous home, or some other home, even though I'm really in this home.

As a matter of fact, if I saw a salt shaker, a plate, and a fork sitting there in my home, I'd feel like my home is a beautiful restaurant. So, it would be like I'm in a beautiful restaurant, even though I'm actually in my own home. I mean, I wouldn't be hallucinating, and actually seeing my home as a beautiful restaurant. I'd simply feel like it's a beautiful restaurant.

Other Person's Response: If you missed being at a certain place, then you're saying it wouldn't matter if you could no longer go to that place because, as long as you can feel the beautiful atmosphere of that place without actually being there, then that's good enough for you? In which case, it would be all about the emotion itself, and not about actually being to that place.

My Reply: Yes. Another example would be that a tropical paradise would be my dream place. But, I don't need to actually be there. As long as I can feel that beautiful, tropical atmosphere in my own home, or out in nature, then that's good enough for me. I can even have that beautiful, tropical experience when playing video games that feature tropical-based levels. One last example would be that my mother could die, but it wouldn't bother me. As long as I think of her beautiful presence, and that thought makes me feel beauty, then that's good enough for me.

Other Person's Response: Even if you were in a tropical paradise, without your positive emotions, it wouldn't be a beautiful paradise for you, since you wouldn't be experiencing it as such. This says it's all about the emotion/experience because, without that, then everything has no beauty or joy.

My Reply: Correct.

Other Person's Response: Your whole idea that positive emotions make life beautiful, and negative emotions make life horrible, is no different than what mankind has been saying all along, which would be that pleasure is good, and pain is bad. I think it's all a trick of the ego.

My Reply: I think people, who focus away from their ego, are the ones being fooled. They don't hone into their personal experience like I do, and they instead focus on other things, such as getting on with life, or their jobs, despite feeling miserable. They think these things, and not their positive emotions, are the positive experiences for them, when they never were.

 

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Even Buddhists are fooled because, like I said, they claim another form of happiness exists besides positive emotions, and they claim they can have positive experiences independent of their positive emotions. Buddhists give up their focus on their ego, and I think that's why they're fooled.

They focus on other things as being happiness and a positive experience for them, such as their meditation, helping others, etc., when these things never were. As a matter of fact, Buddhists claim the ego doesn't exist. But, I think it does, and they're just not focusing on their ego.

So, when Buddhists claim they've given up their self-delusion of the ego, they haven't because being convinced of the existence of the ego was never a self-delusion to begin with. Therefore, these Buddhists have simply given up the focus on their ego. This means their self-delusion would be that the ego doesn't exist.

The same thing applies to happiness. They claim positive emotions being a form of happiness doesn't exist, when it really does. They would claim that it's all a trick of the mind for people to believe positive emotions are happiness, when it never was a trick.

So, they're merely focusing away from their positive emotions, and deluding themselves into believing positive emotions aren't happiness, when they really are. Therefore, the Buddhists are the ones who are tricked here.

If people keep telling me that I'm the one tricking myself, then I'll only return the favor, and tell people that they're the ones being tricked. Like I said, if people deny my personal experience, then I'll only continue to deny theirs.

Other Person's Response: Are there Buddhists who claim suffering and happiness don't exist?

My Reply: There might be. They might claim these things are illusions, just as how they claim the ego is an illusion. I would say to these Buddhists that they're just focusing away from their happiness and suffering, and, in doing so, they deny the existence of it. Suffering and happiness is just as real as physical pain, hunger, thirst, sight, hearing, or smell. To deny the existence of it would be no different than denying the existence of any of those other mentioned mental states.

Other Person's Response: Why do so many people seek pleasure and avoid misery? I think it's much better to be a non hedonist.

My Reply: I think it's because positive emotions are a divine state of consciousness, which means our happy selves are the divine self. If we're feeling negative emotions, or if we're apathetic, then that goes against our divine nature, since we'd no longer have that divine state.

Any state that is the opposite our divine state is something we'd obviously want to avoid. Given this, I think the reason why so many people are hedonists is because this reflects their desires as divine, spiritual beings. They desire to be happy, to have fun, and enjoy their lives, and that's the divine state they need to be in.

Other Person's Response: Buddhists say there's no self (ego). So, there's no divine self.

My Reply: But, Buddhists claim happiness exists, and that we obtain happiness and a transcended state when we overcome suffering. Here's the thing though. Saying happiness exists presupposes the person (self) experiencing it. For example, when a person is happy, they would say "I am happy" or "I have obtained a transcended state through my Buddhist practice and meditation." Without the self (the "I"), then happiness can't exist.

As a matter of fact, I don't think any conscious experience can exist without the self. You can't have an experience without the experiencer. Also, if the self didn't exist, then we wouldn't even refer to anyone else as being "you," "him," or "her" because those terms presuppose that the person's self exists. The self exists just as how any other thing exists, such as an apple, an orange, a tree, and even happiness.

To deny the existence of the self would be no different than denying the existence of any given thing (including mental states themselves). It would also have to mean we couldn't say we love someone, or have compassion towards someone, since love and compassion wouldn't exist, and neither does someone (the person) exist.

It means we might as well ignore other suffering people in this world, since they don't exist, and their suffering doesn't exist. When Buddhists show love and compassion towards suffering people, and help them overcome their suffering, that contradicts their very notion that the self doesn't exist.

Other Person's Response: So, what you're saying here is that, if Buddhists claim the self (ego) doesn't exist, and treat their own ego as though it doesn't exist, then they might as well treat other people as though they don't exist?

My Reply: That's correct, and I think it would be absurd. Therefore, the self has to exist.

Other Person's Response: Are there spiritual believers who do believe in the existence of the self?

My Reply: Yes. Some believe we are our own gods. I think that spiritual belief would be New Age Spirituality.

Other Person's Response: I read, in one of your other packets, that you remain undecided on anything that has a debate. The existence of the self is a debate.

My Reply: In which case, I'd have to remain undecided on the existence of the self. But, all I was doing was putting up my own argument to support the existence of the self.

Other Person's Response: Are you doubtful you can ever obtain more beauty in your life than your positive emotions?

My Reply: I await such an experience, just like how a person awaits for the presence of the tooth fairy or Santa Claus. In other words, I'm very skeptical and have doubts.

Other Person's Response: Perhaps you're relying on your positive emotions as some sort of crutch to give beauty to your life, and to make your life something positive. It would be like how a person relies on something, such as music, as a crutch. Without his music, then his life seems bland and empty.

My Reply: I don't know if that's what's going on here. All I know is that my positive emotions have always brought my life beauty, joy, and greatness.

Other Person's Response: Do you think you're mentally unbalanced, and that's the reason why you have this philosophy?

My Reply: If my philosophy is wrong, and there really is more value to life, then I might be mentally unbalanced. So, it could be a mental health issue that's at the very basis of my worldview, and that shouldn't be deemed as a character weakness. It would be like saying that people with certain mental illnesses are just weak people.

Other Person's Response: Do you have any support for your claim? It doesn't have to be scientific evidence. Maybe it could be a quote.

My Reply: Sure. Here is a piece of information, and the link to this article as well:

17th and 18th Century Theories of Emotions (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

“Reason Is and Ought Only to Be the Slave of the Passions”

One of the most notorious of Hume's views about the passions concerns their relation to our practical reason. Hume locates all our motivations in the passions.

Perhaps for this reason, he treats the will in his discussion of the direct passions, identifying it as “the internal impression we feel and are conscious of, when we knowingly give rise to any new motion of our body, or new perception of our mind” (T II.3.1 399).

If the will did not determine a person's actions, we would have no way to trace those actions to their springs in character, which is the prerequisite for forming moral judgments.

Hume is particularly concerned with analyzing our practical reasoning, our reasoning about how to act. Passions are the engine for all our deeds: without passions we would lack all motivation, all impulse or drive to act, or even to reason (practically or theoretically). This gives at least one sense in which “reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions” (T II.3.3 415).

Hume also holds that the passions are not themselves directly subject to rational evaluation. In fact, it seems something of a category mistake to think that they could be either rational or irrational. Passions are impressions – strong and lively perceptions with a certain “feel” and a direction, or impulse. Reasoning, however, is a matter of connecting various ideas in order to come to a belief; it may apply to, or even form, the circumstances under which passions arise. But reason can generate no impulse by itself.

For these reasons, many have attributed to Hume a belief-desire model of practical reasoning, in which our ends are given by passions (desires). On this view, reason is in the business of producing beliefs, but our beliefs are relevant only to the means by which we seek to obtain those ends: they do not determine the ends themselves.

So, reason has only an instrumental use. But whatever its other virtues, this model does little to explain why reason “ought to be” the slave of the passions. It also seems inappropriate to reduce passions to desires: passions have a great deal more structure than their attractive or aversive directions, important though those may be.

What seems central to Hume's view is the inertness of reason, its inability to generate impulses for the mind (see Millgram 1995). And it is this that drives Hume to adopt a sentimentalist basis for the origins of our “moral distinctions” (T III.1.2).

Other Person's Response: I disagree with how you categorize emotions as being positive or negative.

My Reply: Emotion theorists, and neuroscientists, refer to our emotions as positive and negative. I agree, and support this, based upon my own personal experience. As a matter of fact, positive and negative