ALL pedophiles are gay..???

[Sunstone]

I haven't read the thread, yet, and this has probably been pointed out by now, but most pedophiles are straight, in so far as they have any preference for adults at all. At least that's what I've heard has been established via surveys of prisoners serving time for child rape and molestation.

 

[Renji]

This statment makes me furious, and it was just said to me. I could go through the wires and come out the other end and hurt someone over this. How does a religous person so devout in the non sense they beleive come to THIS conclusion...?!?!?!?!

So Michael Jackson (if ever that he really is a "gay pedophile") is also religious?

 

[sojourner]

As a Heterosexual, I find the implications of this statement offensive. To make a generalisation like this is both narrow minded, and inflammatory. Just because I like to have sex with women, does not mean I am a paedophile. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that not one of the Heterosexual people I know, are paedophiles. :no:
Paedophilia, Homosexuality, and Heterosexuality are terms defining the sexual preferences of a given person. If paedos were heterosexual, there wouldn't be any need to categorise them as paedophiles. Paedophiles have a sexual preference for CHILDREN! Usually pre-pubescent children. Very often, they have no particular gender preference, as long as they are children, of their own particular pre-requisite age. So it is just as offensive to say "Most Paedophiles are Heterosexual" as it is to say "Most paedophiles are Homosexual".
"All paedophiles have a sexual preference for children". This is the definitive phrase I think you are looking for. It isn't ambiguous, nor does it needlessly
bring the perfectly acceptable sexual practices of normal people into question.
This particularly offensive type of wrongcock may, out of guile and neccessity masquerade as being of a different persuasion, but they are not. End of story.

The difference, though, is that heterosexuality and homosexuality are normal, healthy sexual preferences. Pedophilia is deviant. They are not, all three, on an equal playing field. Homosexuality and heterosexuality are on a level playing field, both being normal preferences. Pedophilia is an illness. That illness is statistically most present in heterosexuals, like it or not. Your post is like saying that, because you're a woman, you're offended at someone saying that breast cancer is more prevalent in women than in men.

 

[MW0082]

So Michael Jackson (if ever that he really is a "gay pedophile") is also religious?

According to he person who said t to me, yes. However he is gay because he obviously liked little boys, but a pedophile because they were children.....

 

[BadBeast]

The difference, though, is that heterosexuality and homosexuality are normal, healthy sexual preferences. Pedophilia is deviant. They are not, all three, on an equal playing field. Homosexuality and heterosexuality are on a level playing field, both being normal preferences. Pedophilia is an illness. That illness is statistically most present in heterosexuals, like it or not. Your post is like saying that, because you're a woman, you're offended at someone saying that breast cancer is more prevalent in women than in men.

That breast Cancer thing is a really crass analogy. Your point that "Most Paedophiles are Heterosexual" is simply not true. By definition, a Heterosexual man, chooses to have sex with Women, not children. A Homsexual man, by definition, chooses to have sex with other men. Not children. And a Paedophile, chooses to have sex with children.
By the same criteria you are using, the Gay men of perhaps 50 years ago, (Who faced Prison if caught by the Authorities, and Blackmail, or worse if caught by the public) were also "Mostly Heterosexual".
They maintained the public facade of marriage, even going as far as raising children, but by neccessity not choice.
This didn't mean they weren't Homosexual. It was camofluage. The same way as today's Paedophile will present themselves outwardly to the world as a "Normal Family Man". But inside, he would far rather be having sex with children. Indeed, whenever the oppotunity arises, he will be having sex with children. Or grooming a child in order to have sex with them. Or fapping away to kiddy porn on the internet, as a stopgap substitute, while he isn't having active sex with children! Having a wife is no more relevent here, than having a Car!
There is no qualification. There is no justification along the lines of, "I'm a normal, Heterosexual man, I just like having sex with children"! That just doesn't cut it. That's like a Gay man saying, "I'm not Gay, but some of the men I have sex with are". Any statement that ends in "but I like to have sex with children" defines the person saying it, as a Paedophile! His sexual preference is children. There is no "Mostly Hetero" about it. The fact that he may be married with children, doesn't make him Heterosexual, any more than the fact I like to go swimming, makes me a fish!
The connection is irrelevent. And detracts from the issue. Which is that they like to have sex with children! You can fluff around with pedantics all day long, saying "It's a disease" or "It's deviant". It doesn't help.
There are a significant minority of your own Christian Brothers and Sisters today, who hold exactly those same views about Homosexuals, it doesn't make them right.
The point I was trying to make in my last post, is that it's just as irrelevent to say ''Most Paedophiles are Heterosexual'', as it is to say ''Most Paedophiles are Homosexual''.
In fact, most convicted child molesters will say, they don't have much of an issue with the sex of their victims. It's the "Childness" that they are attracted to, not the gender.
So lets qualify your statement, and get to the nitty gritty. "All Paedophiles, like having sex with children". That just about nails it, for me.

 

[Renji]

According to he person who said t to me, yes. However he is gay because he obviously liked little boys, but a pedophile because they were children.....

But he didn't devout his life to his religious belief. He dedicated his life to singing, making what you said in the OP as just mere allegations. Do you have any sources to prove that it is only religious people (especially those who devoted their life in religious service) that are pedophiles?

Peace, I respect your opinion, but I think, it isn't applicable most of the time

 

[Midnight Pete]

Most of us know that saying that all pedophiles are gay is an incredibly ignorant statement as well as generalizing.
But instead of getting angry, I would start trying to educate people. Ignorance can be undone, if the person who has an ignorant idea is willing to unlearn it.

It begs the question, where does sexual orientation leave off and sexual deviance begin? The guy who buys used panties is technically hetero because he's thinking about the chickie who wore them. How many kind of sexual deviance can be classified as heterosexual in nature?

 

[MW0082]

But he didn't devout his life to his religious belief. He dedicated his life to singing, making what you said in the OP as just mere allegations. Do you have any sources to prove that it is only religious people (especially those who devoted their life in religious service) that are pedophiles?

Peace, I respect your opinion, but I think, it isn't applicable most of the time

I am sorry did you even read the OP???

I said a religiopus person said all pedophiles were gay. Not that religious people are pedophiles....

 

[Renji]

I am sorry did you even read the OP???

I said a religiopus person said all pedophiles were gay. Not that religious people are pedophiles....

Sorry. forgive this kid

I'm a Catholic (not religious though) but I couldn't agree with what that person said. Mere allegations.

 

[MW0082]

Sorry. forgive this kid

I'm a Catholic (not religious though) but I couldn't agree with what that person said. Mere allegations.

It's ok, I was like what I never said anyone was a pedophile LOL.......

 

[Dezzie]

This is definitely the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. Whoever said this to you, obviously had no idea what they are talking about. Here's a good site:

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

 

[BadBeast]

It begs the question, where does sexual orientation leave off and sexual deviance begin? The guy who buys used panties is technically hetero because he's thinking about the chickie who wore them. How many kind of sexual deviance can be classified as heterosexual in nature?

One person's sexual preference is very often deemed as deviant by others. But I think paedophilia goes right out the other side of just being a "kink". Any kink between a man and a woman can be called "Heterosexual" in nature. Or just "sexual" in nature. I think all kinks are basically just fun between consenting adults. But Paedophilia is abhorrent because it is non-consensual. And it exploits children, who lack the emotional and physical levels of development to be able to be anything other than compliant. That, is what I'd call Deviant.

 

[MW0082]

This is definitely the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. Whoever said this to you, obviously had no idea what they are talking about. Here's a good site:

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Thanks

 

[Renji]

It's ok, I was like what I never said anyone was a pedophile LOL.......

I was just carried away of an old article that I was reading. I mixed it up on this thread

 

[logician]

That breast Cancer thing is a really crass analogy. Your point that "Most Paedophiles are Heterosexual" is simply not true. By definition, a Heterosexual man, chooses to have sex with Women, not children. A Homsexual man, by definition, chooses to have sex with other men. Not children. And a Paedophile, chooses to have sex with children.
By the same criteria you are using, the Gay men of perhaps 50 years ago, (Who faced Prison if caught by the Authorities, and Blackmail, or worse if caught by the public) were also "Mostly Heterosexual".
They maintained the public facade of marriage, even going as far as raising children, but by neccessity not choice.
This didn't mean they weren't Homosexual. It was camofluage. The same way as today's Paedophile will present themselves outwardly to the world as a "Normal Family Man". But inside, he would far rather be having sex with children. Indeed, whenever the oppotunity arises, he will be having sex with children. Or grooming a child in order to have sex with them. Or fapping away to kiddy porn on the internet, as a stopgap substitute, while he isn't having active sex with children! Having a wife is no more relevent here, than having a Car!
There is no qualification. There is no justification along the lines of, "I'm a normal, Heterosexual man, I just like having sex with children"! That just doesn't cut it. That's like a Gay man saying, "I'm not Gay, but some of the men I have sex with are". Any statement that ends in "but I like to have sex with children" defines the person saying it, as a Paedophile! His sexual preference is children. There is no "Mostly Hetero" about it. The fact that he may be married with children, doesn't make him Heterosexual, any more than the fact I like to go swimming, makes me a fish!
The connection is irrelevent. And detracts from the issue. Which is that they like to have sex with children! You can fluff around with pedantics all day long, saying "It's a disease" or "It's deviant". It doesn't help.
There are a significant minority of your own Christian Brothers and Sisters today, who hold exactly those same views about Homosexuals, it doesn't make them right.
The point I was trying to make in my last post, is that it's just as irrelevent to say ''Most Paedophiles are Heterosexual'', as it is to say ''Most Paedophiles are Homosexual''.
In fact, most convicted child molesters will say, they don't have much of an issue with the sex of their victims. It's the "Childness" that they are attracted to, not the gender.
So lets qualify your statement, and get to the nitty gritty. "All Paedophiles, like having sex with children". That just about nails it, for me.

This exclusionary argument is absurd. A man can want to have sex with a woman, and also a child, the psychology of the 2 are separate entities. They thus can be both heterosexual and pedophiles.

 

[BadBeast]

In this case, as a relevant factor in sexuality, Paedophilia trumps Heterosexual every time. That's why so many wrongcocks are attracted to the Catholic Priesthood. Here they can have a cover that doesn't involve having to go through the distasteful motions of "Making the beast with two backs" on a Woman.

 

[MW0082]

In this case, as a relevant factor in sexuality, Paedophilia trumps Heterosexual every time. That's why so many wrongcocks are attracted to the Catholic Priesthood. Here they can have a cover that doesn't involve having to go through the distasteful motions of "Making the beast with two backs" on a Woman.

I agree, hetero, homo, or bi these are sexual orientations. Well having a type of sex is the deviant act, not the orientation.

 

[BadBeast]

This exclusionary argument is absurd. A man can want to have sex with a woman, and also a child, the psychology of the 2 are separate entities. They thus can be both heterosexual and pedophiles.

So what you are implying here, is that once he has finished the actual act of sodomising a young boy, he stops being a paedophile, goes home to his wife, and resumes a life of Hetero normality? Because that sounds like you're trying to create some kind of loophole, that would validate this horrible perversion.

Once someone has begun sexually interacting with children, they are a paedophile. You can't throw your hands up and say "But, . . . . . he has sex with his hot Wifey, he must be "mostly" Heterosexual!"
At that stage of the game, it is irrelevant!

 

[ChristineES]

I think sexual deviance isn't what's in question. If a person has a sexual preference (I am not talking about homosexuality)that someone else doesn't approve of, but is not illegal or doesn't harm anyone else, then it really isn't anyone else's business. If a person is religious, and does something that he or she think may be against what the religion teaches, then it is between that person and God. If a person is not religious, we can't very well expect them to follow those religious rules, whatever they may be.
But that isn't really the subject either. Pedophilia is a sexual act between a child and an adult- and a person's sexual preference(or whatever pc term we are using now) doesn't come into question or shouldn't. And most gays wouldn't touch a child any more than most heterosexual's would.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

This statment makes me furious, and it was just said to me. I could go through the wires and come out the other end and hurt someone over this. How does a religous person so devout in the non sense they beleive come to THIS conclusion...?!?!?!?!

This statement makes infuriates me. Just let me go ask all the little girls that pedophillies raped and see if the man raping them was gay or not.