All true religions hold some truth.

[Spirit of Light]

After some time studying Sufi teachings the understanding of truth beginning to arise, not only from sufi understanding but about that all true religions holds a part of the grand truth.
It is told in different ways so all humans can find the teaching that they can realize and begin to be a part of the truth too.

So to have heated discussion with people from different beliefs have no meaning if the first thought is " my belief is better or more correct then others" you see truth from your own P.O.V not from others. So what others say is true to them may seem wrong to you. Do not judge others before you have changed everything from within your self. Remove all the "wrongs" in your own life before making judgment of others

Baha'i speak of unity of all people, now i understand them very well yes we are one under the truth. A seeker of God is seeking truth. But what that truth is will look different from where others see it.

Imaging you stand in a big circle of people, in the middle of the circle is the truth. From your P.O.V you see truth one way. 180° of you in the circle the person see truth totally different, but he/she see the truth from their P.O.V so still you look at the same truth, but different ways.
Baha'i seem to walk around the circle to gain different P.O.V so the can see teachings from many masters.

One way to gain more wisdom about truth, is to walk closer to it, away from the 2D dimension of the circle.

Only when you stand in the middle of the circle will you become fully aware of the full truth.
Truth of love, compassion and God.

God is Love, Love is God.

 

[Native]

IMO the question is very easy: The truth is that we all live on the same created Earth, in the same Solar System and in the same local part of the observable Universe and this truth is told in all cultural Stories of Creation - and we all have the similar basic social and natural laws in order to survive locally and globally.
It doesn´t matter what we call our gods or goddesses as it is the same natural forces which have created everything.

 

[Spirit of Light]

IMO the question is very easy: The truth is that we all live on the same created Earth, in the same Solar System and in the same local part of the observable Universe and this truth is told in all cultural Stories of Creation - and we all have the similar basic social and natural laws in order to survive locally and globally.
It doesn´t matter what we call our gods or goddesses as it is the same natural forces which have created everything.

A shamanistic path is a beautiful way of the nature, to understand the co existence of all forces.

Thank you for sharing @Native

 

[SigurdReginson]

I always get a little sketched out when I hear people talk about "true religions."

Who gets to judge which beliefs are true, and which ones aren't? According to who? Why does this opinion matter so much? What makes the untrue religions invalid, and the true ones valid?

Honestly, I've found more use out of pagan paths than out of any abrahamic path I've followed. Doesn't make it better, just makes it more true for me.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I always get a little sketched out when I hear people talk about "true religions."

Who gets to judge which beliefs are true, and which ones aren't? According to who? Why does this opinion matter so much? What makes the untrue religions invalid, and the true ones valid?

Honestly, I've found more use out of pagan paths than out of any abrahamic path I've followed. Doesn't make it better, just makes it more true for me.

True religion is religion of love

 

[SalixIncendium]

This sentiment, in essence, echoes the parable of The Blind Men and an Elephant, yes?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Who gets to judge which beliefs are true, and which ones aren't?

You do.

Why does this opinion matter so much?

This opinion matters as much as one allows it to.

What makes the untrue religions invalid, and the true ones valid?

You've already answered this. Judgment. From your perspective.

Case in point...

True religion is religion of love

 

[Spirit of Light]

This sentiment, in essence, echoes the parable of The Blind Men and an Elephant, yes?

Yes very true

 

[Jesuslightoftheworld]

After some time studying Sufi teachings the understanding of truth beginning to arise, not only from sufi understanding but about that all true religions holds a part of the grand truth.
It is told in different ways so all humans can find the teaching that they can realize and begin to be a part of the truth too.

So to have heated discussion with people from different beliefs have no meaning if the first thought is " my belief is better or more correct then others" you see truth from your own P.O.W not from others. So what others say is true to them may seem wrong to you. Do not judge others before you have changed everything from within your self. Remove all the "wrongs" in your own life before making judgment of others

Baha'i speak of unity of all people, now i understand them very well yes we are one under the truth. A seeker of God is seeking truth. But what that truth is will look different from where others see it.

Imaging you stand in a big circle of people, in the middle of the circle is the truth. From your P.O.W you see truth one way. 180° of you in the circle the person see truth totally different, but he/she see the truth from their P.O.W. so still you look at the same truth, but different ways.
Baha'i seem to walk around the circle to gain different P.O.W so the can see teachings from many masters.

One way to gain more wisdom about truth, is to walk closer to it, away from the 2D dimension of the circle.

Only when you stand in the middle of the circle will you become fully aware of the full truth.
Truth of love, compassion and God.

God is Love, Love is God.

Just taking that statement for face value, I’d say no, based on the very definition of truth. Truth is absolute and there can only be one Truth.Two different or opposing beliefs cannot both be true. The Truth is and always will be truth whether you believe it or not.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Just taking that statement for face value, I’d say no, based on the very definition of truth. Truth is absolute and there can only be one Truth.Two different or opposing beliefs cannot both be true. The Truth is and always will be truth whether you believe it or not.

I think you should reread the OP, because you clearly misunderstood what was being said.

Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that this isn't a debate forum.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Just taking that statement for face value, I’d say no, based on the very definition of truth. Truth is absolute and there can only be one Truth.Two different or opposing beliefs cannot both be true. The Truth is and always will be truth whether you believe it or not.

Feel free to disagree with anything i might say you have your faith in the teaching of Christ, a beautiful teaching it is.
When one let go of the dogma and religion it self the teaching clearly stand out to those who see it from within

You are you self the answer to your wisdom, we all hold a understanding of the truth from within. But only God can truly understand at all at once.

 

[Vinayaka]

I always get a little sketched out when I hear people talk about "true religions."

Who gets to judge which beliefs are true, and which ones aren't? According to who? Why does this opinion matter so much? What makes the untrue religions invalid, and the true ones valid?

Honestly, I've found more use out of pagan paths than out of any abrahamic path I've followed. Doesn't make it better, just makes it more true for me.

I get sketched out at the word 'truth' these days. Such a vague meaningless word!

 

[pearl]

If only people of different religions lived up the 'truth' of their own religion, we might be surprised at what 'truth' we find.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

After some time studying Sufi teachings the understanding of truth beginning to arise, not only from sufi understanding but about that all true religions holds a part of the grand truth.
It is told in different ways so all humans can find the teaching that they can realize and begin to be a part of the truth too.

So to have heated discussion with people from different beliefs have no meaning if the first thought is " my belief is better or more correct then others" you see truth from your own P.O.V not from others. So what others say is true to them may seem wrong to you. Do not judge others before you have changed everything from within your self. Remove all the "wrongs" in your own life before making judgment of others

Baha'i speak of unity of all people, now i understand them very well yes we are one under the truth. A seeker of God is seeking truth. But what that truth is will look different from where others see it.

Imaging you stand in a big circle of people, in the middle of the circle is the truth. From your P.O.V you see truth one way. 180° of you in the circle the person see truth totally different, but he/she see the truth from their P.O.V so still you look at the same truth, but different ways.
Baha'i seem to walk around the circle to gain different P.O.V so the can see teachings from many masters.

One way to gain more wisdom about truth, is to walk closer to it, away from the 2D dimension of the circle.

Only when you stand in the middle of the circle will you become fully aware of the full truth.
Truth of love, compassion and God.

God is Love, Love is God.

The argument has to do with bahai changing people's beliefs and theology to assume or appropriate those other beliefs systems: christianity, Hinduism, (I did see a small debate between bahai and a Muslim still here years ago-the latter just left), and in part Buddhism-one time thing.

It has nothing to do with belief in god in different ways in itself as their religious theology. No one is bothered by that-people have their own religious beliefs. But when you say Krishna is the same god as Bahaullah or you say Bahallauh is in the bible when all refers (according to christians) to the coming of jesus, there's an issue.

If's like telling a Muslim they believe in Hinduism but at the same time Christ and at the same time assuming The Buddha has a divine spirit or so have you in which a Muslim believes in too.

Each of these religions Hindu, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, have totally different teachings from each other and believe in totally different god(s), and totally different interpretations of gods. The Buddha did believe gods exist (he was Hindu) but rejected those gods for what he considered truth without them. The main tenant of christianity is that jesus was god and he was the one the bible speaks of throughout the OT and NT. Hindu-ooh my gosh they are so different just from an outsiders view, I can't imagine from an insider's view.

Bahai debate just as other people debate them so Bahai aren't the victim here. What needs to happen is for people to not only respect other people's beliefs but be honest to say "hey, I don't know your belief. I won't pretend I do know your belief." Of course on RF it's fine to debate, so I wouldn't shoot a gun at people who debate with Bahai no more than vis versa.

But when they do debate their religion with others, they (bahai) must be mindful people will lash out when they know their faith is being compromised in someone else's newer religion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The argument has to do with bahai changing people's beliefs and theology to assume or appropriate those other beliefs systems: christianity, Hinduism, (I did see a small debate between bahai and a Muslim still here years ago-the latter just left), and in part Buddhism-one time thing.

It has nothing to do with belief in god in different ways in itself as their religious theology. No one is bothered by that-people have their own religious beliefs. But when you say Krishna is the same god as Bahaullah or you say Bahallauh is in the bible when all refers (according to christians) to the coming of jesus, there's an issue.

If's like telling a Muslim they believe in Hinduism but at the same time Christ and at the same time assuming The Buddha has a divine spirit or so have you in which a Muslim believes in too.

Each of these religions Hindu, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, have totally different teachings from each other and believe in totally different god(s), and totally different interpretations of gods. The Buddha did believe gods exist (he was Hindu) but rejected those gods for what he considered truth without them. The main tenant of christianity is that jesus was god and he was the one the bible speaks of throughout the OT and NT. Hindu-ooh my gosh they are so different just from an outsiders view, I can't imagine from an insider's view.

Bahai debate just as other people debate them so Bahai aren't the victim here. What needs to happen is for people to not only respect other people's beliefs but be honest to say "hey, I don't know your belief. I won't pretend I do know your belief." Of course on RF it's fine to debate, so I wouldn't shoot a gun at people who debate with Bahai no more than vis versa.

But when they do debate their religion with others, they (bahai) must be mindful people will lash out when they know their faith is being compromised in someone else's newer religion.

Debate is always welcome, there will always be differences in understanding of each teaching, sufism is not a religion but a way of life, many will argue differently, let them do so because they have their understanding of it.
In my discovery of Sufism i realized my long time search for truth, would have not needed to be that long i was looking for the answer outside of my "self" even when i told others to look within, i did not always follow that my self. I was concerned with what other people believed different then me.

Only when stop worry or wonder about others belief did i see the truth i had been searching for. It was within my heart. All i needed to do was open it up to love and compassion fully.

 

[Audie]

IMO the question is very easy: The truth is that we all live on the same created Earth, in the same Solar System and in the same local part of the observable Universe and this truth is told in all cultural Stories of Creation - and we all have the similar basic social and natural laws in order to survive locally and globally.
It doesn´t matter what we call our gods or goddesses as it is the same natural forces which have created everything.

A True teligion can be .00001% true snd still be True.

Do any do better than that?

 

[Quintessence]

I'd be going on the hunt for the other circles I know exist and have experienced. I'm not interested in the monotheist unity circle. You can have it. I'll be collecting all the other circles. It's way more diverse and fun.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Debate is always welcome, there will always be differences in understanding of each teaching, sufism is not a religion but a way of life, many will argue differently, let them do so because they have their understanding of it.
In my discovery of Sufism i realized my long time search for truth, would have not needed to be that long i was looking for the answer outside of my "self" even when i told others to look within, i did not always follow that my self. I was concerned with what other people believed different then me.

Only when stop worry or wonder about others belief did i see the truth i had been searching for. It was within my heart. All i needed to do was open it up to love and compassion fully.

What is your opinion about religious appropriation?

Respecting other people's beliefs is also saying "I do not know enough about your belief to comment on it."

But you have Bahai telling other religious they are wrong or misinterpret their own (the other religious) teachings because they're own (bahai) is correct. It's one thing to disagree but it's another to tell practitioners they are wrong about their own religion.

I can't speak for Islam and can't represent its teachings, but if I said you were wrong or misinterpret your own teachings it's no longer a spiritual debate but one lacking common curtesy.

 

[Spirit of Light]

What is your opinion about religious appropriation?

Respecting other people's beliefs is also saying "I do not know enough about your belief to comment on it."

But you have Bahai telling other religious they are wrong or misinterpret their own (the other religious) teachings because they're own (bahai) is correct. It's one thing to disagree but it's another to tell practitioners they are wrong about their own religion.

I can't speak for Islam and can't represent its teachings, but if I said you were wrong or misinterpret your own teachings it's no longer a spiritual debate but one lacking common curtesy.

What others believe is their belief, i would no longer argue that they must be wrong, because it might turn out i am the one who is wrong.

Feel free to critique me at any time. If i am wrong and gain underhaldning of it in discussion i will have no problem admitting it

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What others believe is their belief, i would no longer argue that they must be wrong, because it might turn out i am the one who is wrong.

Feel free to critique me at any time. If i am wrong and gain underhaldning of it in discussion i will have no problem admitting it

But what is your opinion on cultural appropriation?

A lot of people don't mind it while others do. At a native american pow wow years ago, I saw cultural appropriation everywhere but in order to build money for reservations, the reservation relatives had to make and sell a lot of their jewelry.

Off RF I really can care less about other people's religion in the context it's not a debating forum. But I do have issues with cultural appropriation and disrespecting other people.