Spirit of Light
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We learn from each culture. I do not belong to one culture, we are human beings together on one earth
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All true religions hold some truth.
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Unveiled Artist
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I was actually honestly curious what you thought of cultural appropriation.
That's what the point of the bahai non-bahai debate is about rather than disrespect each other's religions for the sake they are different perspectives of the same view. With your OP, it's more about respecting differences with no common dominator.
That sounds a bit tautological, doesn’t it?After some time studying Sufi teachings the understanding of truth beginning to arise, not only from sufi understanding but about that all true religions holds a part of the grand truth.
It is told in different ways so all humans can find the teaching that they can realize and begin to be a part of the truth too.
So to have heated discussion with people from different beliefs have no meaning if the first thought is " my belief is better or more correct then others" you see truth from your own P.O.V not from others. So what others say is true to them may seem wrong to you. Do not judge others before you have changed everything from within your self. Remove all the "wrongs" in your own life before making judgment of others
Baha'i speak of unity of all people, now i understand them very wellyes we are one under the truth. A seeker of God is seeking truth. But what that truth is will look different from where others see it.
Imaging you stand in a big circle of people, in the middle of the circle is the truth. From your P.O.V you see truth one way. 180° of you in the circle the person see truth totally different, but he/she see the truth from their P.O.V so still you look at the same truth, but different ways.
Baha'i seem to walk around the circle to gain different P.O.V so the can see teachings from many masters.
One way to gain more wisdom about truth, is to walk closer to it, away from the 2D dimension of the circle.
Only when you stand in the middle of the circle will you become fully aware of the full truth.
Truth of love, compassion and God.
God is Love, Love is God.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I think it should be each person's animal in one jungle/earth.
Whether believers in truth-thinking want to understand this view or not is a different story.
Even a liar can tell the truth.
I think that God told a lot of cultures about himself, and laid down laws. If so, the many editions of the bible, which might obscure the original text of the bible, might be better understood if we look at all religions and try to find the ground of commonality.
I think that God told a lot of cultures about himself, and laid down laws. If so, the many editions of the bible, which might obscure the original text of the bible, might be better understood if we look at all religions and try to find the ground of commonality.
Eyes to See
Well-Known Member
Jesus said:
"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews."-John 4:22.
The Israelite nation is whom Jehovah chose to send his prophets to, and to reveal his purpose for salvation to humankind.
Scripture also tells us that there is only one faith and one baptism:
"One body there is, and one spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."-Ephesians 4:4-6.
The Bible is the inspired word of God. And those who worship Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and follow what the Bible teaches have the truth.
The Bible says that there is only one way, there is only one God, there is only one spirit, there is only one faith, there is only one baptism.
The Bible teaches that very few people comparatively have found the road that leads to life, while the entire world is being mislead by Satan the Devil and are on the broad and spacious road leading to everlasting destruction:
"Satan...is misleading the entire inhabited earth."-Revelation 12:9.
"Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it."-Matthew 7:13-14.
Jesus said that the road to life is narrow and cramped, and very few people are on it. No where are we taught that God approves of false worship. Or is divided against himself. The splintered, and divisive religions of the world in Satan's control are not of God. Jehovah is a God of peace not of disorder:
"For God is a God not of disorder but of peace."-1 Corinthians 14:33.
There is only way way to Jehovah, and that is through Jesus Christ. Jesus said he is the way and the truth and the life.
"Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6.
Jesus is the way to the Father. No one can go to Jehovah God, the Father, except through Jesus Christ. Jesus is the truth. All truths, all prophecies, are made yes and fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Jesus is the life. Jesus is the source of everlasting life.
There is NO OTHER way to salvation.
All religions that teach doctrines that contradict the healthful words of truth in the Bible are false religions.
The only religion that not only believes what the Bible says but practices what it teaches is the one true religion.
It is so easy to see. It is also very obvious. That is why Jehovah said that you would be able to tell a distinction between those who serve him and those who do not:
“And they will be mine,” says Jehovah of armies, “in the day when I produce a special property. I will show them compassion, just as a man shows compassion to his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person, between one serving God and one not serving him.”-Malachi 3:17-18.
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So do humanism and other forms of unbelief.
Never doubt that these can impart a great many beneficial ideas, insights and information to the open and enquiring mind.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Tautologocal?
Spirit of Light
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Yes you are right
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
That would devalue thousands of beliefs. Is it worth devaluing religions to find common ground?
And whose common ground should we go by without compromising someone else's foundation(s) of truth?
After some time studying Sufi teachings the understanding of truth beginning to arise, not only from sufi understanding but about that all true religions holds a part of the grand truth.
It is told in different ways so all humans can find the teaching that they can realize and begin to be a part of the truth too.
So to have heated discussion with people from different beliefs have no meaning if the first thought is " my belief is better or more correct then others" you see truth from your own P.O.V not from others. So what others say is true to them may seem wrong to you. Do not judge others before you have changed everything from within your self. Remove all the "wrongs" in your own life before making judgment of others
Baha'i speak of unity of all people, now i understand them very well
Imaging you stand in a big circle of people, in the middle of the circle is the truth. From your P.O.V you see truth one way. 180° of you in the circle the person see truth totally different, but he/she see the truth from their P.O.V so still you look at the same truth, but different ways.
Baha'i seem to walk around the circle to gain different P.O.V so the can see teachings from many masters.
One way to gain more wisdom about truth, is to walk closer to it, away from the 2D dimension of the circle.
Only when you stand in the middle of the circle will you become fully aware of the full truth.
Truth of love, compassion and God.
God is Love, Love is God.
all faiths believe in a messiah and God but not all believe in God being the Messiah and they have different beliefs about what the purpose of the Messiah is.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
After some time studying Sufi teachings the understanding of truth beginning to arise, not only from sufi understanding but about that all true religions holds a part of the grand truth.
It is told in different ways so all humans can find the teaching that they can realize and begin to be a part of the truth too.
So to have heated discussion with people from different beliefs have no meaning if the first thought is " my belief is better or more correct then others" you see truth from your own P.O.V not from others. So what others say is true to them may seem wrong to you. Do not judge others before you have changed everything from within your self. Remove all the "wrongs" in your own life before making judgment of others
Baha'i speak of unity of all people, now i understand them very well
Imaging you stand in a big circle of people, in the middle of the circle is the truth. From your P.O.V you see truth one way. 180° of you in the circle the person see truth totally different, but he/she see the truth from their P.O.V so still you look at the same truth, but different ways.
Baha'i seem to walk around the circle to gain different P.O.V so the can see teachings from many masters.
One way to gain more wisdom about truth, is to walk closer to it, away from the 2D dimension of the circle.
Only when you stand in the middle of the circle will you become fully aware of the full truth.
Truth of love, compassion and God.
God is Love, Love is God.
You may as well have said that all truths holds some truth. And if a religion is a 'true' religion, why is only SOME of it true? How do you go about determining which religions are 'true' and which are 'false'? And if you determine that a certain religion IS true, how do you determine which PARTS of the religion are true?
And if God is love and love is God, why not just dispense with the word God? After all, we already have a perfectly good word for love and it's love.
Yes, it is tautological that true religions have some truths.
They would not be true religions, otherwise
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Yes, because the teaching has been given in different ways, so most people can find a teaching they can cultivate the mind and body through.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
The different religions do hold the full truth, but is given in teaching that human beings can understand, each human being are at different level of wisdom, so religion have teachings all people would be able to enlighten to, but it is also down to how much effort each person put down. How much they can let go of in this human realm. One of the most difficult aspects to let go of is the ego. Before this is done it is difficult to fully understand spiritual teaching.
How do different teachings cultivate the mind and body? What about one teaching works for one person but not another?
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
But you said all TRUE religions... which indicates that some religions are FALSE. And if god is love and love is god, why do we need the word god?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Not all teaching for every one, that why there are many teaching/religions so every one can find the one they can practice.
Cultivation is the daily practice of a religion.