ALL WELCOME is there any evidence at all for any reason

[science_is_my_god]

Some day, I think as a human race, our intellect will evolve to a state high enough to disprove a god's existence. Don't forget one of the most popular atheist arguement---
"god of the gaps." To refresh people, god of the gaps states that god hides behind our current knowledge of the universe. For example, when we didn't know how lightning worked, we thought a god made it, but when we got smart enough to grasp how lightning works, we moved on from accepting that a god did it (at least I hope people still don't think god creates lightning). Two of our greatest holes in our knowledge are the concept of our origin, and what happens to us after we die. But even as we speak, there are scholars and scientists and the like debating out the theory of evolution, a widely accepted theory, and with due time we will probably understand how we got here without godly creation. Who knows? We may even discover what happens after death someday. So my short and sweet answer is: Sure, I can't disprove a god right now, but trust me, there are plenty of us working on it.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

before someone calls me a troll, this is a fair question, people who believe in evolution always have to prove their beliefs, and religious people never do, so can any religion out there give me solid evidence their religion is the right one because not everyone can be right, i look forward to your responses. religious people usually ignore these threads which don't surprise me because this is not about faith but 'evidence' but if you are confident enough please send a post.

It's easy to prove but you probably won't like the method.

 

[science_is_my_god]

It's easy to prove but you probably won't like the method.

Easy to prove huh? Well then by all means prove it!!! You'd be up one more "Good little Christian boy" if you can prove it to me. Don't you wanna "spead the Word of the Lord" and all?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Easy to prove huh? Well then by all means prove it!!! You'd be up one more "Good little Christian boy" if you can prove it to me. Don't you wanna "spead the Word of the Lord" and all?

It involves dying...are you up for it?

 

[science_is_my_god]

Hahaha very funny. So the only way you can prove your beliefs are true is for me to die? And if so, how do you know this?

 

[sandandfoam]

But even as we speak, there are scholars and scientists and the like debating out the theory of evolution, a widely accepted theory, and with due time we will probably understand how we got here without godly creation. Who knows? We may even discover what happens after death someday. So my short and sweet answer is: Sure, I can't disprove a god right now, but trust me, there are plenty of us working on it.

I admire your faith.

 

[logician]

Most current god concepts can easily be logically disproven, and as Dawkins has shown, the probability that a creator god exists is close to 0. It certainly is conceivable that all supernatural creator gods will be proven not to exist in the future, as the god axiom really is like any other in its provability.

 

[science_is_my_god]

I admire your faith.

Hey, holy men tell me time and again to give faith a try. So I guess I'll put that faith in logic and common sense.

 

[zeezrom]

before someone calls me a troll, this is a fair question, people who believe in evolution always have to prove their beliefs, and religious people never do, so can any religion out there give me solid evidence their religion is the right one because not everyone can be right, i look forward to your responses. religious people usually ignore these threads which don't surprise me because this is not about faith but 'evidence' but if you are confident enough please send a post.

If anyone would like to have evidence, they need to open thier eyes a little bit. We have evidence, Evidence that even fellow christians can't see. on the 21st of september 1823 God called a prophet in palmyra new york.To restore all things, because "not everyone can be right" since that date,technology has made leaps and bounds by inspiration from god.
Evidence:
Prophet :seer and revelator, speaks with god
Gold plates or ancient record of america, a second witness to both jew and gentile that there is a god.
god knew we wouldnt believe it, so he tell us to ask in faith if the book is true (specifically).
pyhsical evidence is all over south america.
Tree of life stone, which was found in s. america which depicts a vision that is in the Book Of Mormon or the "Book of more good"
Ruins and temples all over the south american continent, many depict a white god coming to save the people, others have been found with crosses on them.
there's more,
a 12 million member church that keeps growing and growing
thousands of missionaries in almost every country in the world
temples restored
it's members have been proven to live longer
their marriages last longer
and more etc....

 

[L0gic]

before someone calls me a troll, this is a fair question, people who believe in evolution always have to prove their beliefs, and religious people never do, so can any religion out there give me solid evidence their religion is the right one because not everyone can be right, i look forward to your responses. religious people usually ignore these threads which don't surprise me because this is not about faith but 'evidence' but if you are confident enough please send a post.

I don't see much evidence for a Christian god that can actually withstand logic, common sense and education. Most religious people will give an answer something along the lines of faith or hope cannot be measured.

They why come out with ridiculous things like all the religions aren't real ?

Prove they aren't real

Why come out with ridiculous things like all religions are real? The point is, there is no evidence for the christian god. Faith and hope are concepts that cannot be measured, they cant be empirically studied. In this sense, evolution has loads of evidence compared to faith or hope. Before you go about quoting me, understand this: I'm not saying faith and hope are not real. If they weren't real, then probably many christian folk wouldn't believe, now would they? So, I mean to say the yes they exist, however, you cant empirically measure them. Similarly, you cant measure the concept of love. Some (myself included) would view love as a result of numerous biochemical reactions in the human body and our affection ends up being dubbed the term of "love". Love exists, however, we cant effectively measure it.

Point is, this thread is in favour of evolution. Evolution has real evidence, whereas faith and hope don't have such evidence. Happily, it involves spreading faith of non-christianity, which I'm all for :yes: Thumbs up to the OP

 

[science_is_my_god]

Evidence:
Prophet :seer and revelator, speaks with god

How do I know this "prophet" isn't making this up?

Gold plates or ancient record of america, a second witness to both jew and gentile that there is a god.

There are ancient shrines in China that depict dragons. Does that mean dragons actually exist? Of course not

pyhsical evidence is all over south america.
Tree of life stone, which was found in s. america which depicts a vision that is in the Book Of Mormon or the "Book of more good"

This is just a comparison made by the human psyche, the universe is so vast and possibly infinate that, although rare, coincidences do happen. I could say "hey this rock looks like a face. Therefore god exists," and yet I know that is was just random chance

Ruins and temples all over the south american continent, many depict a white god coming to save the people, others have been found with crosses on them.

Oh yeah? Well there are ruins in ancient greece that have accounts of atheism recorded in thier scrolls. Again, it doesn't prove there is a god, it just proves they had beliefs in one.

there's more,
a 12 million member church that keeps growing and growing

trust me, there is a heck of a lot more than 12 million people in the world, and, in my opinion, even if one person doubts a god's existence, that means he didn't do a good enough job of showing us his "evidence."

thousands of missionaries in almost every country in the world

you left out "thousands of atheists in every country of the world."

temples restored

restored by what? human beings? That just shows us they believe in god, but has no evidence that by building a structure proves god is real

it's members have been proven to live longer
their marriages last longer
and more etc....

Actually, this scientific experiment was redone, and, it just showed that people with any type of beliefs, spiritual or not, live longer. I attribute this to the fact that beliefs lead to happiness and happiness leads to good health.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Most current god concepts can easily be logically disproven...

You cannot logically prove something does not exist.

 

[Charity]

:clap I agree.....

 

[science_is_my_god]

You cannot logically prove something does not exist.

Do we, as atheists, really even need to disprove god's existence anyway? To me, lack of proof of his existence is proof enough for me that he does not exist.

 

[Charity]

Do we, as atheists, really even need to disprove god's existence anyway? To me, lack of proof of his existence is proof enough for me that he does not exist.

Are you sure He does not exist? Lack of proof really proves nothing, so how could it be proof enough for you? And as Christians we have no need to prove God's existence to you.....

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Do we, as atheists, really even need to disprove god's existence anyway? To me, lack of proof of his existence is proof enough for me that he does not exist.

That's illogical.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm open to the possibility of a god, and I welcome such an entity to manifest in my living room to reveal himself and thus confirm his existence. Then we would sit down over some beers as he explained the mystical answers of the cosmos.

 

[methylatedghosts]

What God tells one bunch of people this is his son and tell another lot of people that actually this is his son, i thought it might just be the most rational reason. ONE of them is lying. And no it is not just about understanding and living, most god fearing people probably only obey what is in their book because of that very reason they are scared of God's wrath.Not

I propose that all were right.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I'm open to the possibility of a god, and I welcome such an entity to manifest in my living room to reveal himself and thus confirm his existence. Then we would sit down over some beers as he explained the mystical answers of the cosmos.

It's nice how you dictate to a supreme being what He should do. I'm sure He'll bend to your will momentarily. Stay tuned.

 

[Magic Man]

It's nice how you dictate to a supreme being what He should do. I'm sure He'll bend to your will momentarily. Stay tuned.

I've always loved this argument. No one is trying to dictate anything to a supreme being. In this case, he was describing what would happen, if such a being as the Christian God existed, not what should happen. It's not someone saying "Do this, God!". It's someone saying "If God existed as you say, then logically he would do this".