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Almost Everything You Think You Know Is A Lie

Orias

Left Hand Path
No, I haven't, but then it is rather obvious that you have not either. I quickly was able to discern your character and made some very accurate assessments of it which you have only confirmed.

There was no "flying off the handle". There were no "accusations". And you are still running away. I don't care about your other topics right now. The way to approach this is one topic at a time. If you could reason rationally that would be obvious to you.


That's where you're wrong. I've spent the last 3 years at University.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions related to the video. Like how do the astronauts endure space radiation and emf from the sun and all the charged particles in space when there is no atmosphere and they are outside of the van Allen radiation belts which protect us .
That is not related to the video, and only demonstrates your utter ignorance. I will gladly answer those questions once we discuss the video. That is an example of running away.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That's where you're wrong. I've spent the last 3 years at University.
Then you may have wasted your money. You have not learned how to reason rationally, that is rather obvious so far. Nor have you learned how to debate properly. What is your major?
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
You've been accusing and making the assumption I am operating irrationality while you're remarks directly reflect you're desire to remain away from a rational discussion.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm not running. I'm waiting for you to answer questions and participate in this discussion in a reasonable manner. You refusing to answer my questions based off of a condition we never agreed to is irrational. You refusing to answer my questions directly related to the videos and the OP is irrational .
Please, now you are running away from your running away.

I will not go on any more detours, the video first, then I will answer your other questions.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You've been accusing and making the assumption I am operating irrationality while you're remarks directly reflect you're desire to remain away from a rational discussion.


Wrong again. I drew valid conclusions and you have only confirmed them. Let's discuss the video and not your problems. I am not the one that is running away here.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Then you may have wasted your money. You have not learned how to reason rationally, that is rather obvious so far. Nor have you learned how to debate properly. What is your major?

Ha!

I don't know how to debate properly? All you have debated with me is semantics really. You don't answer questions and you operate under assumption and reductive reasoning.

My major is in linguistics, since I had no interest to go to college to get a job I went to learn some cool useless stuff, like logic. Of course I wouldn't go for anything useful, I didn't pay for it. I have a job that pays the bills. :tearsofjoy:
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Wrong again. I drew valid conclusions and you have only confirmed them. Let's discuss the video and not your problems. I am not the one that is running away here.

They aren't valid when you make the claim I'm irrational because I said Russia transported a religious artifact you admitted to believing are real .
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
The difference between you and me is, I asked questions, and I answer them when I am asked.

You don't. That's a violation of rational thinking coming from a person who thinks they know it all about logical type thinking.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ha!

I don't know how to debate properly? All you have debated with me is semantics really. You don't answer questions and you operate under assumption and reductive reasoning.

My major is in linguistics, since I had no interest to go to college to get a job I went to learn some cool useless stuff, like logic. Of course I wouldn't go for anything useful, I didn't pay for it. I have a job that pays the bills. :tearsofjoy:
No, you don't. You started out with what amounted to a Gish Gallop. The proper way to debate is one topic at a time. And please that is a lie when you say that I won't answer questions. I will answer questions, but not when you keep making detours.

Your logic needs some work. I can't say anything about linguistics, that was nowhere near my area of study.

Actually there is no debate here, what we are having is a discussion where I try to help you realize why you are wrong. At best you have only been able to express arguments from ignorance, a logical fallacy in case you did not know.

Are you satisfied yet? Let's get back to the video that scares you so much.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The difference between you and me is, I asked questions, and I answer them when I am asked.

You don't. That's a violation of rational thinking coming from a person who thinks they know it all about logical type thinking.
No, you thought that you were making points by asking questions. You did not ask proper questions. I know that you are wrong and am willing to help you learn, at least on the Moon landing. You have been running away.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
I started posting and debating on this forum when I was 16. I'm 25 now. I took a few years off to go to school and pursue my dreams in the martial arts. I own a house and run a business, I attended school for things I want to learn from an institution. I realized not everything I want to learn can be learned in such places. I am also deeply spiritual after having been a cold atheist for many years. Don't think you know me, rational people don't think they have everyone figured out after a few words. Truly rational people know a thought experiment when they see one...:tearsofjoy:
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
No, you don't. You started out with what amounted to a Gish Gallop. The proper way to debate is one topic at a time. And please that is a lie when you say that I won't answer questions. I will answer questions, but not when you keep making detours.

Your logic needs some work. I can't say anything about linguistics, that was nowhere near my area of study.

Actually there is no debate here, what we are having is a discussion where I try to help you realize why you are wrong. At best you have only been able to express arguments from ignorance, a logical fallacy in case you did not know.

Are you satisfied yet? Let's get back to the video that scares you so much.

One topic at a time? Yea and so far youve engaged in diddly .

It is a lie because guess what...you still haven't answered them!!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
They aren't valid when you make the claim I'm irrational because I said Russia transported a religious artifact you admitted to believing are real .
Your Russian claim sounds extremely bogus. That would take some serious evidence, not the Weekly World News. I will gladly discuss this with you once we discuss the Moon landing. But your acceptance of that story and rejection of the Lunar Landing is an example of you being irrational and inconsistent. One concept is well supported by evidence, the other not so much. And yet you seem to accept the one not supported by evidence and reject the one that is supported by evidence. This only confirms my early analysis.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Well if you went to school you'd know that linguistics is a branch of logic. Like to study logic you study language. You're language you're using against me is very irrational. It's corruptable. It's corrupted this entire thread. You don't even realize it .
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I started posting and debating on this forum when I was 16. I'm 25 now. I took a few years off to go to school and pursue my dreams in the martial arts. I own a house and run a business, I attended school for things I want to learn from an institution. I realized not everything I want to learn can be learned in such places. I am also deeply spiritual after having been a cold atheist for many years. Don't think you know me, rational people don't think they have everyone figured out after a few words. Truly rational people know a thought experiment when they see one...:tearsofjoy:

So are you claiming to pose as an irrational person? You have done an amazingly good job of that.

By the way, what martial arts have you studied?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well if you went to school you'd know that linguistics is a branch of logic. Like to study logic you study language. You're language you're using against me is very irrational. It's corruptable. It's corrupted this entire thread. You don't even realize it .

Not from what I know. It is the study of languages. That is not necessarily a branch of logic, in fact the two are only slightly connected. Now I am having doubts about that claim. Logic was taught in the philosophy department of the university that I went to.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It's not bogus. It was documented that recently many world leaders went to antarctica .

That does not mean that your artifact went there.
Also the proper way to support a claim is with valid links. The video I posted was made from a film shot on the Moon. That is an example of valid evidence. It seems to have frightened you. Why is that?
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
So are you claiming to pose as an irrational person? You have done an amazingly good job of that.

By the way, what martial arts have you studied?

No I'm saying this is a thought experiment, I'm not posing as anything. Merely asking questions that makes people want to hide.

I studied many martial arts, jidokwan, kenpo, Brazilian jiujitsu, judo. I mainly practice Muay Thai and Muay boran, I been itching to compete in Lethwei but I highly doubt it, maybe if the states allowed bareknuckle fighting and use of headbutts
 
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