Almost Everything You Think You Know Is A Lie

[Orias]

Your actions speak louder than your words. You supplied a video too long to watch for a discussion. I gave a short video that proves my point, but you will discuss anything but that. I am very sure that you are missing what shows this to be a lunar shot.

My actions? All I've shared is words. In the time you've spent squabbling with me you could of easily watched the video or at least read some of comments or description and parts of the activity on the moon to gain a good summary .

 

[Orias]

I have discussed your video. Still waiting for you to answer how astronauts endure lethal space radiation coming from multiple sources.

The reason we don't have that on Earth is because of the van Allen belts and the moon is outside of them.

 

[Orias]

And it's not true anyways because the Earth is brighter than the moon and even though we have an atmosphere and lens distortion we can still see celestial objects during the day, like the moon, and other planets.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My actions? All I've shared is words. In the time you've spent squabbling with me you could of easily watched the video or at least read some of comments or description and parts of the activity on the moon to gain a good summary .

I thought that you claimed to have studied linguistics.

And no, I have merely pointed out your obvious flaws here. As to reading comments, those are not of much use if you do not have a basic education.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And it's not true anyways because the Earth is brighter than the moon and even though we have an atmosphere and lens distortion we can still see celestial objects during the day, like the moon, and other planets.

The Earth is not much brighter than the Moon. Why would you say such a thing? The Moon has roughly the same albedo as an asphalt parking lot and those are plenty bright during the day time. And yes, we can see the Moon because it is very bright. Planets such as Venus, which is VERY bright can be seen during the daytime, but even then almost always late or early in the day. Mars and Jupiter, not really, Mercury only when the Sun is setting or rising.

 

[Orias]

I thought that you claimed to have studied linguistics.

And no, I have merely pointed out your obvious flaws here. As to reading comments, those are not of much use if you do not have a basic education.

Lol....says...you're actions speak louder than your words...but you haven't observed any actions besides me using language and words....what? You haven't pointed out any of my flaws, only revealed your own .

 

[Orias]

The Earth is not much brighter than the Moon. Why would you say such a thing? The Moon has roughly the same albedo as an asphalt parking lot and those are plenty bright during the day time. And yes, we can see the Moon because it is very bright. Planets such as Venus, which is VERY bright can be seen during the daytime, but even then almost always late or early in the day. Mars and Jupiter, not really, Mercury only when the Sun is setting or rising.

The Earth is much brighter than the moon and it's more reflective than it as well.

 

[Orias]

I've seen celestial objects in the sky during the day while driving on bright asphalt that doesn't explain away the phenomena on the moon given the clarity of space is way better, the light from stars would be way brighter on the moon.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Earth is much brighter than the moon and it's more reflective than it as well.

Wrong:

"Our Moon’s average visual albedo is 0.12."

"Earth’s albedo is 0.37; "

Albedo: How Bright is the Moon?

Our eyes are logarithmic in nature so a difference of three times is noticeable but not "much". In fact I already said that the surface of the Moon is roughly that of a parking lot.

 

[Orias]

Wrong:

"Our Moon’s average visual albedo is 0.12."

"Earth’s albedo is 0.37; "

Albedo: How Bright is the Moon?

Our eyes are logarithmic in nature so a difference of three times is noticeable but not "much". In fact I already said that the surface of the Moon is roughly that of a parking lot.

You do realize you are wrong you just admitted the Earth reflects 3 times more light than the moon

 

[Orias]

You saying I am wrong while literally just confirming what I said to be true...

Now that is classic

 

[Orias]

In case you were wondering if the Earth is 3 times more relfective and has a higher albedo it means the Earth is brighter and reflects more light than the moon ...

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do realize you are wrong you just admitted the Earth reflects 3 times more light than the moon

I am not wrong. I qualified my answer and explained it to you. I said from the start how bright the Moon was, once again, your vision is logarithmic. An object one tenth as bright would appear to be half as bright to your eyes. Your eyes do not measure light linearly.

 

[Orias]

I am not wrong. I qualified my answer and explained it to you. I said from the start how bright the Moon was, once again, your vision is logarithmic. An object one tenth as bright would appear to be half as bright to your eyes. Your eyes do not measure light linearly.

No you are wrong. You can't percieve a 70 foot drop over a mile doesn't mean it's not there. Just because we can't directly observe the brightness doesn't mean it's not brighter. The Earth is also much larger, that doesn't make it less reflective or bright .It's still more reflective and brighter than the moon

 

[Orias]

That is not logical reasoning. That's swept under the rug type reasoning. Out of sight out of mind .

 

[Subduction Zone]

You saying I am wrong while literally just confirming what I said to be true...

Now that is classic

No, you do not understand your error. Maybe now that I have explained it twice to you perhaps you will understand.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No you are wrong. You can't percieve a 70 foot drop over a mile doesn't mean it's not there. Just because we can't directly observe the brightness doesn't mean it's not brighter. The Earth is also much larger, that doesn't make it less reflective or bright .It's still more reflective and brighter than the moon

Wrong again. The damage done by a 70 foot drop is an example of a linear event. You will feel that there is ten times the energy of a 7 foot drop. We were discussing what you see with your eyes and they are not linear.

 

[Orias]

No, you do not understand your error. Maybe now that I have explained it twice to you perhaps you will understand.

I think you mean your error. You directly contradicted yourself in your own post.

"The Earth isn't brighter than the moon"

"The Earth is 3 times brighter than the moon but we can't see it"

Ok...because that makes sense. Not. Maybe you're trying to reason with a penguin.

 

[Orias]

Wrong again. The damage done by a 70 foot drop is an example of a linear event. You will feel that there is ten times the energy of a 7 foot drop. We were discussing what you see with your eyes and they are not linear.

I said you cannot percieve a 70 foot drop over a mile. You can't . It's the same as your example about the Earth being 3 times brighter than the moon except we can't percieve it.

 

[Orias]

Wrong again. The damage done by a 70 foot drop is an example of a linear event. You will feel that there is ten times the energy of a 7 foot drop. We were discussing what you see with your eyes and they are not linear.

"Linear event" lol. Doesn't matter if you're looking up or down you line of sight is pretty linear isn't it?