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Am I The Only One Who Thinks Killing Osama Wasn't The Right Thing To Do

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Violet.
Just_me_Mike said:
You don't accept admission of guilt? I believe Osama voiced over and over his part in killing civilians in the twin towers etc...
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Neither did the FBI accept his admission of guilt over 9-11....



I may very well be the only American so apathetic
(and untrusting)
that I really couldn't care less any way.
 
The Neo Nerd

The Neo Nerd

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xkatz said:
-Information can probably be found on the computers, drives, CDs, and other forms of media supposedly seized from the compound.
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There would have been stuff that he knew that weren't on those computers.

-For a person like Bin Laden, punishment probably would have little effect. He would've been ready for it.
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I think they would have had plenty of time to come up with some pretty inventive punishments.

-To end a life is to end a life. Nothing more, nothing less.
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This is true, but life is so amazing to end one no matter the consequences is horrid in my view.
-It does NOT change the situation in Afghanistan or abroad. There will always be terrorism and Al-Qaeda is still around.
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The information gained from his interrogation could have gone a long way towards saving a lot of lives.
 
Bismillah

Bismillah

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The information gained from his interrogation could have gone a long way towards saving a lot of lives.
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He lived in a house without internet and depended on couriers for day to day tasks, somehow I don't think he was the base of operations for AQ.
 
The Neo Nerd

The Neo Nerd

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What about all the contacts he has, the cells he has set up etc?

There would be so much information they could get out of him.
 
Morpheus

Morpheus

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Celebrating the death of anyone, regardless of their behaviour, is disturbing to me. It just brings you down to their level. Trying to fight hatred with hatred is futile. A fact proved repeatedly by humanity over the past 4000 years (or more). The only way to fight hatred is with love. You may not win specific battles, but you will win the war as love is thousands of times more powerful than hatred.
Its easy to love you friends and family. Its much more difficult to love your enemy, but we have been told to do this by successive religions and it has been demonstrated repeatedly to work.
The false notion is that if I am passive and show love to my enemy, and he responds by killing me - then my enemy has won and I have lost. This make perfect sense to the atheist, but to a genuine theist, no, my enemy has lost and I have won.
What is more important to me than my life is how I live it.
And to those of you who challenge this ideology - don't expect to see any changes in the world you are complaining about.
Peace.
 
RitalinO.D.

RitalinO.D.

Well-Known Member
Reverend Rick said:
I agree.

There should be no glory in killing even when it is justified.
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I have to admit, when I saw the headline about his death, I did do a couple fist pumps and said Hell yea. However, I think going to the length of publicly celebrating his death was over the top.
 
Starsoul

Starsoul

Truth
Revoltingest said:
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but that doesn't mean that some countries won't engage in subterfuge at times.
Btw, you have no idea how informed or uninformed I am, so your slight bespeaks hubris.
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Just read your comment. No no, no slight, no hubris, just a comment, I reckon you certainly know a lot more than i do : )

peace.
 
The Neo Nerd

The Neo Nerd

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Tenaka2 said:
They couldn't keep him alive, more deaths would have been caused if the U.S. had him captive.
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You really think keeping him alive will **** off his followers more than killing him?

He was executed (single bullet to the head) and then thrown over board.

A rather ignominious way to be put to rest.

-Q
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Bismillah said:
He lived in a house without internet and depended on couriers for day to day tasks, somehow I don't think he was the base of operations for AQ.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure his slide into cowardice probably cost him face with militant terrorists. When you spout off repeatedly about the glory of martyrdom, yet end up clinging to life like a scared child, it's inevitable that people will see you as full of crap and marginalize your importance.
 
Adramelek

Adramelek

Setian
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Morpheus said:
Celebrating the death of anyone, regardless of their behaviour, is disturbing to me. It just brings you down to their level. Trying to fight hatred with hatred is futile.
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Perhaps you are right Morpheus. However, sometimes "evil" can only be destroyed by a greater "evil", just my opinion.

It is an unpleasant truth, but most human beings are slaves to their emotions. Most people are unable to firstly view events in the world objectively, rather, they by reflex almost immediately cast their own personal subjective veil over the situation. Is it wrong to celebrate or rejoyce over the demise of OBL? Well since concepts of "right" and "wrong", "good" and "evil" are purely subjective to me, I would say after careful thought no. However, I didn't scream out in joy and celebration waving an American flag when I heard OBL was dead. My reaction was simply "well, it took them long enough." And then I went about my day.

Xeper.
/Adramelek\
 
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Bismillah

Bismillah

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure his slide into cowardice probably cost him face with militant terrorists. When you spout off repeatedly about the glory of martyrdom, yet end up clinging to life like a scared child, it's inevitable that people will see you as full of crap and marginalize your importance.
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I doubt he was "clinging to his life" otherwise he wouldn't have gone to Afghanistan in the first place when the Princes refused funding the efforts through his own money.

He understood that he was much more valuable alive as a symbol and in any case didn't wish to run towards death but accepted it.
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Bismillah said:
He understood that he was much more valuable alive as a symbol and in any case didn't wish to run towards death but accepted it.
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BWAHAHAHAH!

Yeah, he understood he'd much rather stay alive, trapped in a little room, than put his money where his mouth was. And, yeah, he accepted death when the Navy Seals broke in and shot him in the head after years of cowering in his little room. LOL!
 
Starsoul

Starsoul

Truth
UltraViolet said:
Neither did the FBI accept his admission of guilt over 9-11....



I may very well be the only American so apathetic
(and untrusting)
that I really couldn't care less any way.
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he admitted to 911? for sure? and he and US both could never prove or explain why or how it happened, leaving no traces of his involvement, or any conclusive evidence, except his voiced over videos?
what a convenient ploy for apathy.

For countries who have un-solved mysteries like murders of their presidents and etc and etc, its strange people believe whatever their govts. tell them, or propagate as the truth
 
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Starsoul

Starsoul

Truth
"Al Qaeda is a creation of the CIA. It is simply a database of names of jihadists who were trained to fight against the Russians during the Afghan-Soviet conflict. The real purpose is to build up a fake enemy so as to get the American public to support the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and now Pakistan. "

Its part of a documentary called "The Power Of Nightmares" made by Adam Curtis for the BBC in 2004 .

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YouTube - BBC now admits al qaeda never existed


And the US president directly ordering the Cia to HELP rebels in Libya, Middle East (rebels who openly admit links to Alqaeda?)

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YouTube - Obama Ordered CIA To Directly Assist Al-Qaeda Rebels In Libya

And the Cia funding and supporting the same organization in Iran, where it openly serves its interests?

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YouTube - While Fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq, Bush and Obama Secretly Fund Al Qaeda in Iran



Looks like obl refused to serve their interests any more :p
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
It doesn't matter who trained OBL,it doesn't take a Rocket scientist to see what scum and his ilk are,Ken Bigley was beheaded by a knife which they videoed, Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad who were under Al Qiedas umberella,there is no excuse for Islamist extremist cowards such as OBL and what he inspired,excuses for him are not only an insult to non Muslims but to Muslims aswell.
 
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