Zita
Solitary Eclectic Witch
The implications of this and other verses of genesis 9, (for me the essential part of The Bible) are
no, you are not thinking wrong, I was doing some research on Christianity and The church,and I found out that Early Christians doctrine that God is in heaven and not on earth and will not enact on Earth, that the devil has reign throughout the world and he is the prince of the air.that divine assistant is no more, if you get powers of assistance it is of the devil.King James called the devil God's hangman,although that doctrine is no more, I still see that right to now.Because as you know the World is crazy,and full of evil doings!! People are lost,hurting,suffering and misguided and some more stuff.How does God not help since he is all powerful.I feel once he gave us free will he just left it up to us alone. However,I believe that people who do evil doings and etc. Don't feel it's going against God because God is said to say we were born in sin and we are all sinners,and come short of glory of God,and The church is so judgemental and harsh if you don't follow their way,saying when you die you'll not make it into heaven,you'll go to hell. and it seems like everything is against God and it's sin,so.......
I believe the ones that are on a spiritual path to enlightenment and seek God for themselves,and hear his guidance and live the way that hurts no one,but help and assist others ,those who seek the spiritual realm and use the gifts and powers that God has blessed us with to enhance our lives and are happy,joyous,at peace,and strive to help others create a blessed life also are doing has God would have us to do.He wants the best life for us while here on earth.
I believe in a mighty God that is all love and giving us guidance each time we ask, for it. However' I don't believe in the God the bible speaks of!! I refuse to believe that God is to be feared and he can be angered to punish and more and he's jealous and orders murder,sends plaques on cities,sent a famine of 7 years on earth,killed babies and will cast us in the fiery pit to burn. That he puts us through trials and tribulations,and watch us suffer and hurt just so he can prove to us that he is God and can bring us out of our misery. I don't believe he would take out a whole nation by flooding everyone,but saved Noah and his family,would that be morally correct?Of course there is much more they say God said and ordered and judged humans.I don't believe that he says that homosexuals are an abomination or that witches such as my self along with witchcraft is also an abomination of him and we shall be killed. That he killed innocent babies and a mass murder of innocent children. Really? I just don't see A creator resulting to such horror. I could go on and on cause that book called the bible is full of stories like that.
Why is divination such a horrible thing, Why would using tools,techniques and a practice that can enhance your spiritual path and connect with the divine and angels and etc. be a bad thing?When God wants us to be spiritual in every way.God made the stars,planets and the moon, so why would studying them be wrong or evil, it.really makes no sense,that's why I don't believe a word of the bible, my opinion is that it was written by man to control the people. Which it has surely done for hundreds of years and still going strong, so I give them credit for having such a vivid imagination and writing skills. and knowing how to brain wash through word,Actually Old Christianity said that God demands unquestioning obedience and to fear God because he is a jealous and angry God, that it was essential to say to sustain the people.That one should learn of God only from the church not by personal inquiry and accept and submit to whatever the church teaches,so that the people wouldn't exceed the church in wisdom .So if the Church told those things to control the people,surely the same thing could be done by man or men in the writing of "The Bible"That is just my own opinion on it.
Don't be surprised if you get a lot of people saying you are wrong in what you believe, I get them all the time, but it doesn't bother me in the least. Most Christians and those who have read the bible think they are so smart and they know it all, that we are the not so bright ones because we question what doesn't seem right or make sense. But they are the ones who have so much faith and believe and live by those words in a book that they can't even prove it's accurate and true.Now how smart is that?
Genesis 9:6 reads to me as Whoever sheds the blood of man through man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God He made man.
Remember this is the voice of God, not a prophet, not a messiah, this is God. In the beginning of all the Abrahamic holy books God makes a statement . For me it states that even the worst possible crime, that of murder is to be dealt with by human hands.
God said this to Noah and his sons, ie the whole of humanity, which for me is also very symbolic
I also believe that God does not err, nor contradict God, because God is Perfect, all-knowing and all seeing, far into our future
The implications of this and other verses of genesis 9, (for me the essential part of The Bible) are many imo
1/ No one ever died at the hands of God, That includes Egyptians, the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and everyone else
2/ There is no eternal punishment or Hell for those that committ the worst of crimes, though there is an accounting
3/ God therefore would never have extolled anyone to kill in God's name especially when one considers that God blessed us all to be fruitful and multiply through Noah and his sons, the whole of humanity and also promised never again to destroy us "for everlasting generations" (and do not make the error of saying that was by water!)
4/ God does not operate on this Earth. God has left us to it
5/ All Abrahamic religions are therefore misleading ie we are all alone on this world and will return to God when we die
6/ Because God made no religious decrees in Genesis 9 when God spoke to all humanity for all time through all of our ancestors, the Abrahamic religions are mere human inventions. the exception was we should not eat the blood of live animals
But the key thing for me is the firm belief that God spoke once only because as God would be aware of our future and the decisions we would make God would have said other things to Noah such as "Here are my 10 Commandments", teach them to your grandchildren and so on.
I have measured every verse in the texts against this idea of God as perfection, all knowing and seeing and every thing after Gen 9:19 for me is divisive human made babble. I am unable to find this perfect God after Gen 9:19
I also believe we were given complete freewill by God via the serpent and if you add this lot all together, this is how I arrive at my belief. Tell me why my thinking is wrong. I would appreciate it . No IPUs please
no, you are not thinking wrong, I was doing some research on Christianity and The church,and I found out that Early Christians doctrine that God is in heaven and not on earth and will not enact on Earth, that the devil has reign throughout the world and he is the prince of the air.that divine assistant is no more, if you get powers of assistance it is of the devil.King James called the devil God's hangman,although that doctrine is no more, I still see that right to now.Because as you know the World is crazy,and full of evil doings!! People are lost,hurting,suffering and misguided and some more stuff.How does God not help since he is all powerful.I feel once he gave us free will he just left it up to us alone. However,I believe that people who do evil doings and etc. Don't feel it's going against God because God is said to say we were born in sin and we are all sinners,and come short of glory of God,and The church is so judgemental and harsh if you don't follow their way,saying when you die you'll not make it into heaven,you'll go to hell. and it seems like everything is against God and it's sin,so.......
I believe the ones that are on a spiritual path to enlightenment and seek God for themselves,and hear his guidance and live the way that hurts no one,but help and assist others ,those who seek the spiritual realm and use the gifts and powers that God has blessed us with to enhance our lives and are happy,joyous,at peace,and strive to help others create a blessed life also are doing has God would have us to do.He wants the best life for us while here on earth.
I believe in a mighty God that is all love and giving us guidance each time we ask, for it. However' I don't believe in the God the bible speaks of!! I refuse to believe that God is to be feared and he can be angered to punish and more and he's jealous and orders murder,sends plaques on cities,sent a famine of 7 years on earth,killed babies and will cast us in the fiery pit to burn. That he puts us through trials and tribulations,and watch us suffer and hurt just so he can prove to us that he is God and can bring us out of our misery. I don't believe he would take out a whole nation by flooding everyone,but saved Noah and his family,would that be morally correct?Of course there is much more they say God said and ordered and judged humans.I don't believe that he says that homosexuals are an abomination or that witches such as my self along with witchcraft is also an abomination of him and we shall be killed. That he killed innocent babies and a mass murder of innocent children. Really? I just don't see A creator resulting to such horror. I could go on and on cause that book called the bible is full of stories like that.
Why is divination such a horrible thing, Why would using tools,techniques and a practice that can enhance your spiritual path and connect with the divine and angels and etc. be a bad thing?When God wants us to be spiritual in every way.God made the stars,planets and the moon, so why would studying them be wrong or evil, it.really makes no sense,that's why I don't believe a word of the bible, my opinion is that it was written by man to control the people. Which it has surely done for hundreds of years and still going strong, so I give them credit for having such a vivid imagination and writing skills. and knowing how to brain wash through word,Actually Old Christianity said that God demands unquestioning obedience and to fear God because he is a jealous and angry God, that it was essential to say to sustain the people.That one should learn of God only from the church not by personal inquiry and accept and submit to whatever the church teaches,so that the people wouldn't exceed the church in wisdom .So if the Church told those things to control the people,surely the same thing could be done by man or men in the writing of "The Bible"That is just my own opinion on it.
Don't be surprised if you get a lot of people saying you are wrong in what you believe, I get them all the time, but it doesn't bother me in the least. Most Christians and those who have read the bible think they are so smart and they know it all, that we are the not so bright ones because we question what doesn't seem right or make sense. But they are the ones who have so much faith and believe and live by those words in a book that they can't even prove it's accurate and true.Now how smart is that?
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