Amazon workers condemn unsafe, grueling conditions at warehouse

[Revoltingest]

My hesitation is that these reports aren't new and they seem to be fairly consistent across the different locations. I will say it is possible these are isolated incidents due to low-mid level mismanagement.

I misspelled "news" as "new".
Corrected now.
Re-read, please.

 

[HonestJoe]

My partner had his leg badly broken because the way to do his job was both required and forbidden. And OSHA never showed up unannounced.

Did you partner ever contact OSHA (before or after the incident)? Even if the system is working perfectly, random checks can only go so far. Sometimes we have to help ourselves (and each other).

 

[columbus]

Did you partner ever contact OSHA (before or after the incident)? Even if the system is working perfectly, random checks can only go so far. Sometimes we have to help ourselves (and each other).

Of course not!
He still needed the job.
His employer was very clear. Mention OSHA or unions on our property or on social media and you'll get fired.
Tom

 

[Quintessence]

Forget Schmazos. Think about your own contributions to shamazon's business. Are you still a customer? If so, why?

 

[sun rise]

I'm speculating that perhaps we're hearing complaints which don't
accurately reflect the claimed dangers. Consider....Amazon's
worker woes have been all over the news for years. Would you
say that he has such power that government is prevented from oversight?

No of course not prevented. Hinted, lobbied, pressured but never prevented.

 

[columbus]

Forget Schmazos. Think about your own contributions to shamazon's business. Are you still a customer? If so, why?

I've never bought anything on the internet ever. I don't even like going to Walmarts, but they've destroyed so many American businesses that sometimes there is no there option.
I cannot buy model paint anymore without buying it at Wal-Mart.
Tom

 

[Nakosis]

‘I'm not a robot’: Amazon workers condemn unsafe, grueling conditions at warehouse





They get two 15-minute breaks, but the article mentioned that it takes as long as 15 minutes just to walk to the breakroom. The article also noted that the injury rates were three times the national average for warehouse work.





Sounds like a sweatshop.



This is outrageous. She gets written up for missing her rate because she had to clean up the mess of broken or improperly packaged items. Sounds like a hostile work environment.





One worker said "I'm a human being, not a robot."



Another worker said he would rather work in a prison, as he compared the Amazon warehouse to that.



I think Mr. Bezos has a lot of 'splaining to do.

Amazon has replaced Google as the best place to work in the US

Of the 25,009 current and former employees who have submitted Amazon reviews on Glassdoor, 74% said that they would recommend the company to a friend.

Amazon also rates favorably on Glassdoor in other categories including CEO approval, culture and values, work-life balance, benefits, and career opportunities.
Amazon will raise its minimum wage to $15 an hour —here's what it's really like to work there, according to employees

18 Reasons Why Amazon is the Best Place to Work - WiseStep

Not that I care about defending Amazon but there are usually at least two sides to any story.

 

[Revoltingest]

No of course not prevented. Hinted, lobbied, pressured but never prevented.

Is that the only possibility?
No chance that the dangers claimed might be hyped?

I'm in no position to know, but I'm skeptical of the claims.

 

[sun rise]

Is that the only possibility?
No chance that the dangers claimed might be hyped?

I'm in no position to know, but I'm skeptical of the claims.

Of course that's true but not the point I was making which is that sometimes you can't trust government to do the right thing.

It is funny that we've switched positions and you're arguing my position in other cases and I'm arguing yours.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course that's true but not the point I was making which is that sometimes you can't trust government to do the right thing.

Surely you jest!

It is funny that we've switched positions and you're arguing my position in other cases and I'm arguing yours.

I only argued to see a possibility.
It's odd that to argue for understanding something,
many will interpret that for advocating that something.

 

[Quetzal]

Forget Schmazos. Think about your own contributions to shamazon's business. Are you still a customer? If so, why?

Yes. Their product is good and I get the things I need when I need them.

 

[sun rise]

I only argued to see a possibility.
It's odd that to argue for understanding something,
many will interpret that for advocating that something.

You make an effective Devil's advocate.

 

[Revoltingest]

You make an effective Devil's advocate.

 

[james bond]

I heard some complaints about Amazon's pay. Guess I believe this. I've heard harsh working conditions for FedEx, too, but you only work as a part-timer. BTW, they use the USPS for some of their customer's shipments in order to get to another office in another city.

 

[HonestJoe]

Of course not!
He still needed the job.
His employer was very clear. Mention OSHA or unions on our property or on social media and you'll get fired.
Tom

Seems a little unfair to complain about them not just turning up randomly at one of the millions of businesses in the USA then. Anyway, I'm sure they have ways to report things anonymously or your partner could have taken one for the team. Maybe if someone else had done that, they wouldn't have been injured in the first place.

Of course, in a civilised country, an employee sacked for whistle-blowing would be able to sue the employer for unfair dismissal.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course, in a civilised country, an employee sacked for whistle-blowing would be able to sue the employer for unfair dismissal.

Of course, there's the question of what actually happened.
As an employer, I'd never consider retaliating for an employee
calling OSHA. As you say, the legal risks would be very high.

 

[Quintessence]

I've never bought anything on the internet ever. I don't even like going to Walmarts, but they've destroyed so many American businesses that sometimes there is no there option.
I cannot buy model paint anymore without buying it at Wal-Mart.
Tom

I try too, but you can also drive yourself kind of crazy about it. As you say, the monopolies have often made it so there are no alternatives. It is amazing that in my parents generation, cornerside locally-owned stores were normal. We will inevitably go back to that as the imperative to knock it off with burning our ancestors becomes impossible to procrastinate further. I look forward to it, and in the mean time try to make a point of doing the farmer's market and local business thing.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is amazing that in my parents generation, cornerside locally-owned stores were normal. We will inevitably go back to that....

It'll never happen. That would be terrible.
The internet offers so much more. I can buy
things that would never be available locally.
And so many things I'd otherwise never even
know the existence of.

......as the imperative to knock it off with burning our ancestors becomes impossible to procrastinate further.

Whuh?

 

[Quintessence]

It'll never happen. That would be terrible.
The internet offers so much more. I can buy
things that would never be available locally.
And so many things I'd otherwise never even
know the existence of.

It will happen, and it won't be terrible. What's terrible is this sort of consumer mentality that has launched our planet into a sixth mass extinction event and caused global-scale ecocide... the ramifications of which will be inescapable even for the most self-centered, consumeristic, and anthropocentric of humans. It's why the richie riches are all obsessed with their wong-shaped space vehicles to escape the inevitable catastrophe. I jest, a bit... but only a bit. It's sadly true, as much as I attempt to make light of it.

Whuh?

You know what fossil fuels are, right? We are quite literally burning our biological ancestors and relatives. I think that if we had bothered to think about it that way from the start, we might have been smarter about our use of it. Ah, who am I kidding... humans are going to consume, consume, consume until they burn down their habitat and then they'll whine about how they can't have five flatscreen TVs in their house anymore...

 

[Revoltingest]

It will happen, and it won't be terrible.

You're too late.
Pandora's box has been opened.

What's terrible is this sort of consumer mentality that has launched our planet into a sixth mass extinction event and caused global-scale ecocide... the ramifications of which will be inescapable even for the most self-centered, consumeristic, and anthropocentric of humans. It's why the richie riches are all obsessed with their wong-shaped space vehicles to escape the inevitable catastrophe. I jest, a bit... but only a bit. It's sadly true, as much as I attempt to make light of it.

Our environmental problems began long before the internet came into being.
And the culture you decry also preceded it.
The internet just makes info & products more available.

You know what fossil fuels are, right?

I vaguely recall hearing the term somewhere before.

We are quite literally burning our biological ancestors and relatives.

I burn propane, gasoline, & firewood.
(My dead relatives are inconvenient & low in energy content.)

I think that if we had bothered to think about it that way from the start, we might have been smarter about our use of it. Ah, who am I kidding... humans are going to consume, consume, consume until they burn down their habitat and then they'll whine about how they can't have five flatscreen TVs in their house anymore...

Eliminating the internet, & shopping locally won't stop that.