American Athiests now have their own TV-Channel

[Kilgore Trout]

So telling people that an internet stream is not a TV channel is raging against them? Do you even live in reality?

Yes, I live in a reality where you start countless ridiculous threads which strain reason and semantics beyond their limits in order to scrounge up any and every way to convey your blatant and obvious bigotry against atheists. Your antics in this thread are only the latest example.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Yes, I live in a reality where you start countless ridiculous threads which strain reason and semantics beyond their limits in order to scrounge up any and every way to convey your blatant and obvious bigotry against atheists. Your antics in this thread are only the latest example.

Hyperbole much? Atheist come on this forum every singe day to criticism and ridicule religion and religious people. But when the shoe is on the other foot you certainly do get very thin skinned. You dish it out but you sure do not like taking it.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Hyperbole much? Atheist come on this forum every singe day to criticism and ridicule religion and religious people. But when the shoe is on the other foot you certainly do get very thin skinned. You dish it out but you sure do not like taking it.

I don't ridicule religion or religious people. However, I do ridicule hypocritical and ridiculous people. Also, I tend to ridicule people who make a practice of projecting their own psychological issues onto everyone else.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Oh really?

I stand corrected: you found one.

In that case, feel free to continue with your broad brush generalizations. I'm sure bobhikes is representative of every atheist.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I stand corrected: you found one.

In that case, feel free to continue with your broad brush generalizations. I'm sure bobhikes is representative of every atheist.

LOL, in my experience bob isn't representative of any atheists.

Whatever works for somebody's rhetorical agenda though.

 

[Revoltingest]

Now, now, you two.....
CC: Kilgore is quite civil towards believers who are kind & thoughtful.
KT: CC is more balanced than you give her credit for. She doesn't just attack atheists.
There are also geeks, gamers, neckbeards, men's rights activists, gun rights activists,
capitalists, nerds, libertarians & egalitarians.
Can't we all just get along?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Now, now, you two.....
CC: Kilgore is quite civil towards believers who are kind & thoughtful.
KT: CC is more balanced than you give her credit for. She doesn't just attack atheists.
There are also geeks, gamers, neckbeards, men's rights activists, gun rights activists,
capitalists, nerds, libertarians & egalitarians.
Can't we all just get along?

I humbly stand corrected.

 

[Maldini]

Athiesm is nothing. It's not a religion.

I'm an atheist, and I think Atheist preaching is as stupid as it gets. I have no interest in other people's religious beliefs on a personal level.

If it's something that's gonna effect me or the society, like places in mid-east or like the people with God hates **** sign in US, then I'm gonna speak up and try to shut them down. Other than that there's no need to talk about atheism. It's not a religion, and it implies people don't need religion to be happy, good, whatever. So stuff like this irritates me.

If atheists want to help, they should attack the stupid things caused by religious beliefs and religious-type beliefs that is causing real people trouble. A good example is to criticize non-secular governments for the human rights violation that they are. There should be no talking about God's existence or Atheism from atheists, since the first is something with no actual evidence for which atheists are not interested in, and the second is purely nothing.

If someone really gets peace form prayers, then let them be. There's nothing to be said on something like that by atheists. If they want to change laws for religious reasons, that's when you speak up.

 

[TheGunShoj]

Athiesm is nothing. It's not a religion.

I'm an athiest, and I think Athiest preaching is as stupid as it gets. I have no interest in other people's religious belifs on a personal level.

If it's something that's gonna effect me or the society, like places in mid-east or like the people with God hates **** sign in US, then I'm gonna speak up and try to shut them down. Other than that there's no need to talk about atheism. It's not a religion, and it implies people don't need religion to be happy, good, whatever. So stuff like this irritates me.

So you don't think that outreach to other potential atheists is important? Or not even that, but just something that people who are currently atheists can relate to and enjoy? I don't see how that's a bad thing.

 

[Maldini]

It's a bad thing because stuff like this will turn atheism into a cult or a religion of its own, which is something I wish never happens.

Religious people have that religious factor in their life, like religious activities, and sometimes they let their religion make decisions for them and they take sides on arguments based on their religions and other stuff like that.

An atheist is the person who doesn't have that factor. If I'm an atheist, and then I try to find out what other atheists think about issues and then I try to copy them, then that means I'm also religious.

A true atheist, at least in my opinion, is someone who makes his mind using his own common sense and logic, not based on popular belief. That's the main thing about Atheism . It's not about science, it's not about not believing in God. It's about not going with popular belief, and It's about love and respect between human beings no matter what they are or where they are from and It's about applying common sense and logic.

Atheists reaching each other, having meetings on Atheism, or having TV networks talking about atheism. Replace the word Atheism with name of any religion in previous sentences and you see it's something that's already happening.

In an atheist's perfect world, nobody sits around talking about how there's no God or afterlife. In that world, people only talk about issues at hand and how to resolve them using common sense and logic, while considering the humanity and the respect and love everyone deserves.

I don't think atheists need to gather and reach each other or go to battle with religious people. What we need is trying to build a word in which beliefs are not used to solve problems, but common sense and logic and human rights.

A good atheist network would be called something like Logic TV. and it would tackle the problems caused by religious attitude. A TV network of atheists talking about how there's no God, how evolution means that bible is wrong and crap like that is one of the worst things that can happen to atheism, because it will turn atheism in eyes of public into just "another religion", which it's not at all.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Now, now, you two.....
CC: Kilgore is quite civil towards believers who are kind & thoughtful.
KT: CC is more balanced than you give her credit for. She doesn't just attack atheists.
There are also geeks, gamers, neckbeards, men's rights activists, gun rights activists,
capitalists, nerds, libertarians & egalitarians.
Can't we all just get along?

I have also criticized Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, the Jains (yes, even the Jains), liberals, Democrats, sex+ feminists and second wave feminists.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

It's a bad thing because stuff like this will turn atheism into a cult or a religion of its own, which is something I wish never happens.

Religious people have that religious factor in their life, like religious activities, and sometimes they let their religion make decisions for them and they take sides on arguments based on their religions and other stuff like that.

An atheist is the person who doesn't have that factor. If I'm an atheist, and then I try to find out what other atheists think about issues and then I try to copy them, then that means I'm also religious.

A true atheist, at least in my opinion, is someone who makes his mind using his own common sense and logic, not based on popular belief. That's the main thing about Atheism . It's not about science, it's not about not believing in God. It's about not going with popular belief, and It's about love and respect between human beings no matter what they are or where they are from and It's about applying common sense and logic.

Atheists reaching each other, having meetings on Atheism, or having TV networks talking about atheism. Replace the word Atheism with name of any religion in previous sentences and you see it's something that's already happening.

In an atheist's perfect world, nobody sits around talking about how there's no God or afterlife. In that world, people only talk about issues at hand and how to resolve them using common sense and logic, while considering the humanity and the respect and love everyone deserves.

I don't think atheists need to gather and reach each other or go to battle with religious people. What we need is trying to build a word in which beliefs are not used to solve problems, but common sense and logic and human rights.

A good atheist network would be called something like Logic TV. and it would tackle the problems caused by religious attitude. A TV network of atheists talking about how there's no God, how evolution means that bible is wrong and crap like that is one of the worst things that can happen to atheism, because it will turn atheism in eyes of public into just "another religion", which it's not at all.

I agree with this guy.

 

[TheGunShoj]

A true atheist, at least in my opinion, is someone who makes his mind using his own common snese and logic, not based on popular beleif. That's the main thing about Athiesm . It's not about science, it's not about not believing in God. It's about not going with popular belief, and It's about love and respect between human beings no matter what they are or where they are from.

I think you are confused. Atheism is ONLY about not believing in god, nothing else. You are describing characteristics of skeptics and humanists.

And as far as not being able to hear another atheists point of view and make your own decision about it, that sounds like a personal problem. You should still be able to form your own thoughts on a subject after hearing another opinion rather than conforming immediately. Here we are, two atheists and we are in disagreement. That's proof right there that we are capable of it.

 

[Willamena]

Here's a link to the online website of the Atheist TV-Channel.

Do you think this is overall a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's largely a good thing because it will annoy the fundamentalists.

Well, no, it's largely a good thing if it actually provides television that's entertaining.

Not a simple task.

 

[TheGunShoj]

Atheists reaching each other, having meetings on Atheism, or having TV networks talking about atheism. Replace the word Atheism with name of any religion in previous sentences and you see it's something that's already happening.

No it doesn't.

In an atheist's perfect world, nobody sits around talking about how there's no God or afterlife. In that world, people only talk about issues at hand and how to resolve them using common sense and logic, while considering the humanity and the respect and love everyone deserves.

Agreed. However, we don't live in that perfect world so what's the point of bringing that up?

I don't think atheists need to gather and reach each other or go to battle with religious people. What we need is trying to build a word in which beliefs are not used to solve problems, but common sense and logic and human rights.

I don't disagree. But with so many groups trying to push their agendas based on their beliefs, how are we supposed to build the world that you speak of?

A good atheist network would be called something like Logic TV. and it would tackle the problems caused by religious attitude. A TV network of atheists talking about how there's no God, how evolution means that bible is wrong and crap like that is one of the worst things that can happen to atheism, because it will turn atheism in eyes of public into just "another religion", which it's not at all.

We don't even know what type of content will be on the network so how do you know this isn't the goal?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's no big deal.

It's a bad thing because stuff like this will turn atheism into a cult or a religion of its own, which is something I wish never happens.

[...]

I agree with this guy.

:sarcastic

Hmm.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

:sarcastic

Hmm.

I agree with him. Talking about how God doesn't exist or how there is no afterlife does nothing. Talking about atheism does nothing. Doing battle with religious people accomplishes nothing. Atheism will not solve world peace nor will it put food in the mouths of hungry children.

 

[Maldini]

Well anybody is entitled to their definition of atheism, but I define religion as a much higher concept than God, so I like to think of atheism as the lack of religion and religious behavior. And I think that's what really matters. For thousands of years people have known that the existence of a God is something we can never know or prove, so it's pretty much a gut feeling.

Religion and religious behavior, which is accepting popular old age beliefs or words of wisdom told by so-called holly people without challenging them or trying to adapt them to the current times, is the real issue. Not God.

God is like Bigfoot, some people believe in it, some don't, and it really doesn't matter unless there's a Bigfoot at your door.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I agree with him. Talking about how God doesn't exist or how there is no afterlife does nothing. Talking about atheism does nothing. Doing battle with religious people accomplishes nothing. Atheism will not solve world peace nor will it put food in the mouths of hungry children.

He said that the channel will create a cult. You say it will do nothing. How are these the same thing?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

He said that the channel will create a cult. You say it will do nothing. How are these the same thing?

You obviously didn't read the whole post.