An appeal for the logic of religious belief

[Autodidact]

Create some gravity for me?

Regards,
Scott

O.K., First, take one really large mass...

 

[Autodidact]

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There is only potential. Sometimes that potential can be described as matter and sometimes it can be described as energy. The sum of manipulating potential is always ZERO. Potential cannot be created or destroyed.

It's not a quibble, one cannot demand that the universe be only considered as material while at the same time having no understanding of "material".

Regards,
Scott

Well in that sense nothing is ever created, including a chocolate cake; it's just rearranging stuff.

What was that Professor John Hatcher stuff doing in the thread?

 

[Autodidact]

Can someone please find me a bunny with a pancake on its head for Popeyesays? Thank you.

 

[Popeyesays]

O.K., First, take one really large mass...[/quote

And you're going to create this mass from nothing using what methodology?

Even if you could spend the energy to create the mass the sum would still be ZERO. You would spend as much as you make.Want to create some energy? Lift a brick over your head and let it fall? Whoops you spent an exactly equal amount raising the brick over your head as you gained by dropping itTotal sum gained?ZERO, so nothing was created.

Regards,
Scott

 

[Willamena]

Think about this:

"...the existence of an unseen force at work in human history is no less plausible and no less scholarly as an explanation for events than it is to consider the influence of unseen forces at work in the natural world (e.g. gravity)"...John S. Hatcher, The Ocean of His Words p 27

Does considering that make a difference in how you feel on the subject?t

It makes no sense to me, so no, it doesn't make a difference.

 

[Fluffy]

And you're going to create this mass from nothing using what methodology?

Create a universe for me. From nothing.

 

[Willamena]

And you're going to create this mass from nothing using what methodology?

Perspectivism.

 

[Aasimar]

Can someone please find me a bunny with a pancake on its head for Popeyesays? Thank you.

 

[Popeyesays]

I love the bunny. Is there a link to the image?

Regards,

Scott

 

[Aasimar]

I love the bunny. Is there a link to the image?

Regards,

Scott

http://www.kurtsimmons.com/images/bunny-pancake.gif

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Can someone please find me a bunny with a pancake on its head for Popeyesays? Thank you.

I love it when "atheists" anthropomorphize God. It shows they aren't atheists after all: they just have a funny concept of God.

 

[Somkid]

If we replace the "God" with "extra terrestrials" is the premise more ridicules or equally ridicules?
Oddly enough I'm serious, I want to know what you think and I want you to think about it.

 

[Rolling_Stone]

If we replace the "God" with "extra terrestrials" is the premise more ridicules or equally ridicules?
Oddly enough I'm serious, I want to know what you think and I want you to think about it.

I love it when "atheists" anthropomorphize God. It shows they aren't atheists after all: they just have a funny concept of God.

 

[Aasimar]

I love it when "atheists" anthropomorphize God. It shows they aren't atheists after all: they just have a funny concept of God.

You have this on permanent paste now Stone? I've seen this response in at least 3 posts, word for word, stop being childish.

 

[yossarian22]

To speak metaphorically, you casn always go home, but the ball isn't yours alone.

true, true

Seriously, you have misargued the point -- no harm, no foul, everyone swings and misses sometimes, take another swing at your leisure.

More like poor phrasing but eh.

The difference between gravity and and a perceived effect of god is simple. Gravity can be observed and tested. Any effect of God cannot, at least now. This makes the concept of God's effect useless until the point in time when we can detect it.

 

[Autodidact]

I love it when "atheists" anthropomorphize God. It shows they aren't atheists after all: they just have a funny concept of God.

I'm sorry, I cannot find any connection between asking for a bunny with a pancake on its head and anthropomorphizing God. Can you please explain? Thank you.

And, btw, I'm not an "atheist." I'm an atheist.

 

[Panda]

O.K., First, take one really large mass...[/quote

And you're going to create this mass from nothing using what methodology?

Even if you could spend the energy to create the mass the sum would still be ZERO. You would spend as much as you make.Want to create some energy? Lift a brick over your head and let it fall? Whoops you spent an exactly equal amount raising the brick over your head as you gained by dropping itTotal sum gained?ZERO, so nothing was created.

Regards,
Scott

Ahh yes conservation of energy. Energy is never lost, it just changes form.

 

[ChristineES]

I know that a lot of people don't agree with this, but I still think that there are times when people have self-made gods. Some people worship money-not all people who are rich worship money, but some of them do.
People can worship anything, including their country, although not every patriot uses his country as a god.
Worship isn't something you just love, it is something that controls your whole life. If you wake up in the morning, go to bed at night, eat meals, or everything else thinking about a said item, then there is a chance that you are worshiping it. (I am not talking about when you are worried about something, such as how you are going to pay your bills or if you are worried about someone you love who is sick in the hospital, that is just worry and is temporary).
Some people call this obsession.

 

[Rolling_Stone]

You have this on permanent paste now Stone? I've seen this response in at least 3 posts, word for word, stop being childish.

Actually I do. Seeing the same nonsense over and over and over gets rather tiresome. I mean, jeez, haven't you guys got something intelligent you can add to the mix?

 

[Rolling_Stone]

I'm sorry, I cannot find any connection between asking for a bunny with a pancake on its head and anthropomorphizing God. Can you please explain? Thank you.

And, btw, I'm not an "atheist." I'm an atheist.

No, you are an "atheist." You clearly have a concept of God: you need one in order to compare God with "a bunny with a pancake on its head." So, having a concept of God, how can you claim to be an atheist? What you're doing is positing a ridiculous concept that you believe in and saying that because your concept of God cannot exist, God cannot exist. It's inane.