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An Opinion: Islam Is Not a Religion of Peace
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allfoak
Alchemist
I'm not interpreting away anything.
My post says nothing about the verses other than that they are taken out of context.
Meaning, they are being interpreted literally.
The proper context is to apply them to your own experience.
If you try and interpret any scripture in a literal context you are going to end up with contradictions and horrible ideas like eternal damnation.
If i gave you a novel and told you to read it like it was a poem you would think i was crazy.
I think most religious people are crazy.
They read something that was written in the language of their soul as if it is a history book, twisting it's meaning to fit their own carnal desires believing that somehow they are escaping hell.
This idea of eternal torture for anyone is atrocious.
I would be an atheist before i would accept something so horrible.
The concept was created for the purpose of control.
It has worked so well that people pay to keep from ending up there.
People will do almost anything in fact if you can get them to believe that they will avoid hell by performing some ritual, act of allegiance or initiation.
I would be careful what it is i judge.
If you do not understand what you are reading and judge it to be something it is not, you are in danger of actions that will likely not be in your best interest.
outhouse
Atheistically
Your correct. It is factually a mistake to read the bible literally.
The difference between the two is all muslims are required to hold the same fanaticism as YEC Christian fundamentalist.
Even the really cool nice one's reject academia as far as historical knowledge goes, and there is no debate or sharing of possibilities if it goes against the book. It in my opinion is an "all in" or nothing religion.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I believe that any organised religion that tells you want you must do is a violent religion.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Those who follow are called the believers.
you could factually prove so and so god and religion to me tomorrow that does not mean i would accept so and so god into my life or follow said religion. you postulate free will, then rebellion is always a choice. i wont side with what i find evil.
i am an atheist but is satan/shiatan? according to faith he knows but still does not serve.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
No, a simple no,again NO!
Lets avoid ideas of old muslims' hatred to their traditional religion,this cannot be world's problem can it?
I am of roman catholic origin (very) snow white European white ,though atheist ,lived in places such as pakistan,saudi arabia .They did nothing but helped me for everything.Why should I believe you? Do you think i live in a fantasy?
Maniacs are maniacs everywhere,nothing to do with the religion.
Lets avoid ideas of old muslims' hatred to their traditional religion,this cannot be world's problem can it?
I am of roman catholic origin (very) snow white European white ,though atheist ,lived in places such as pakistan,saudi arabia .They did nothing but helped me for everything.Why should I believe you? Do you think i live in a fantasy?
Maniacs are maniacs everywhere,nothing to do with the religion.
this thread isnt about muslims but about islam
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
Sorry,I could not figure out the difference between islam and muslims.
You are the reason why I have to go to a simple supermarket with a fully armed soldier. Because they say the same.
that was a pretty rude comment considering you know nothing about me or my stances on these issues
now i don't blame Islam for terrorism, with or without Islam terrorism would have risen in that area for socioeconomic reasons. im more likely to be shot by a white 'mentally ill' guy then a Muslim.
in rea life i tend to defend islam, mostly because the arguments attacking it are strawmen bull**** made from ignorance.
almost all the Muslims i personally know are good people.
that doesn't mean Islam is a good religion on peace, none of the abhramics are. (actualy i don't know enough about judiasm to claim that )
in rea life i tend to defend islam, mostly because the arguments attacking it are strawmen bull**** made from ignorance.
almost all the Muslims i personally know are good people.
that doesn't mean Islam is a good religion on peace, none of the abhramics are. (actualy i don't know enough about judiasm to claim that )
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
I do apologize.
But what do you know about me? Have you spent your life in islamic orient like me?In such a rough sector like construction? Do you know how many times ı was told not to leave home even for buying coke zero or they will cut me off my neck?
Pls try to understand me. Again I am so sorry if I were rude.
I would believe that there was punishment, but I would probably still don't know who was behind said punishment... that is, I would question if it was really a god that was behind the punishment and not any other entity or entities.
no, i don't know you but i haven't made any presumptuous statements about you. that being said thank you, i accept your apology and look forward to learning from your experiences.
I don't say Hinduism is in some way a special religion. Hindus pick and choose scriptures, even
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
My question was, will you believe if in a case that you were 100% sure that the disbelievers will be punished or you'll
rebel because you don't agree that the disbeliever should be punished and hence you'll accept to be punished as means
of protesting and to show your disagreement with God.
As I said earlier, I don't know. I would have to be in the situation to know exactly what I would do or say.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
You'll stay perplexed in which way to go ?
I think I would probably settle for one option if I were put in that situation. I would tell the god we're talking about what I thought, since he would be able to know anyway through his omniscience.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Let me put it in another way, if you were standing on a land which you know it'll be destroyed, you have 2 ways to escape,
one advised you to take the one way and not the other and he gave you some signs which you're going to see as a proof for what he said,
then while you were in the road you found these signs which he told you that you gonna to see, which way you'll choose, the one which he
asked you to follow or the other road, will you believe or disbelieve.