cladking
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I wasn't aware. What did you smell?
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Ancient Reality
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I wasn't aware. What did you smell?
tas8831
Well-Known Member
You should have stopped there.
Let me help you:
I, Cladking, couldn't be more wrong about almost everything.
'broccas' area? LOL!
You think the lateral cortex is 'in the middle' of the brain - such naivete, coupled with a massive ego and an unhealthy does of the Dunning-Kruger effect. You are it, champ.
cladking
Well-Known Member
How ironic.
I've said numerous times I might be wrong about ancient reality then you want to talk about modern reality and the "Dunning-Kruger effect"
and how only those who are wrong might assume the conclusion. I've stated numerous times that the assumption of the conclusion is what
DEFINES Homo Omnisciencis but then you came into all this already knowing ancient people were primitive and superstitious but we're all
better now because science has given us the real answers to the important questions. Our perfection is established fact.
I KNOW I assume the conclusion, you don't.
I've said a million times that I assume the conclusion as well. I am part of the human race therefore I suffer Dunning-Kruger effect. It's just
this simple. I learned to think using modern language EXACTLY like you and everyone else. So of course when I started trying to solve the
meaning of Ancient Language I was NECESSARILY going to discover all of my assumptions. But I have one assumption that few people have,
and led me exactly to where I am. I ASSUME all people make sense all the time in terms of their premises (Yes, even you)(even crackpots) and
even the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible as well as the stinky footed bumpkins who wrote the Pyramid Texts.
I DID NOT expect the Ancient Language to make any sense at all relative natural law, logic, or common sense. I expected it to make sense relative their premises and I was merely trying to deduce their premises. You CAN'T IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN I FOUND IT MADE LITERAL SENSE and that it was fully consistent with logic and the laws of nature.
Rather than addressing the FACTS of ancient reality like they had no words of belief, thought or reduction people want to ignore it. Rather than addressing how my theory eliminates most of the mysteries associated with how the pyramids were built and how they learned to do it people want to argue about whether the wernicke's areas is in the center or the middle of the brain. Rather than addressing the fact that there is no more evidence for ramps than their is human omniscience people want to argue semantics. Across the board facts and reason support the simple observation that superstition kills and they mustta used linear funiculars to lift stones up the pyramids one step at a time but people can't be shaken from their assumptions. The idea that we are the pinnacle of creation and ancient people were ignorant savages virtually underlies our thinking. But you can't consider you could be wrong. You have "Dunning-Kruger effect" of Biblical proportions and believe you are immune because you toe the line. You're thinking is clearly inside the (brain) box. There's simply no question that science can not possibly be wrong about any major issue. Therefore anyone who disagrees with you or see science from a different angle is simply wrong.
We'd still be living in caves if we always accepted the status quo. We'd still be living in the dark ages if science were unable to examine its assumptions and perspectives.
gnostic
The Lost One
Having no word for “belief”, doesn’t mean people don’t have belief.
People have no word for “flint”, but it has been used by humans as tools, since the Palaeolithic period.
Words did exist in writing until hundreds of thousands of years later, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist.
Perhaps they did have word for flint, but since we have no way to know the languages used back then, we don’t know what words they used for flint.
You are complicating matters with trivials.
People have no word for “flint”, but it has been used by humans as tools, since the Palaeolithic period.
Words did exist in writing until hundreds of thousands of years later, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist.
Perhaps they did have word for flint, but since we have no way to know the languages used back then, we don’t know what words they used for flint.
You are complicating matters with trivials.
cladking
Well-Known Member
I think you're overlooking the point and you might not understand the magnitude of the void in Ancient Language. It's not just the word "belief" itself that is missing but every single synonym as well as antonyms and even every word that implies they had a belief. There are no sentences that refer to holding or expressing beliefs. They didn't "conjure" up their Gods or "imagine" they came into existence but rather they said their gods were born. There are thousands of words that are missing for "belief". It's not just the word "thought" that is missing but every synonym and every way to express the concept of "thinking". Again there are thousands of words missing. It's the same with "taxonomy". They not only lacked words that meant "category" or "taxonomy" but they lacked every word that meant these things. They even lacked words that implied "categories" such as "animal" because they didn't reduce their world into different kinds of animals. This is tens of thousands of words missing. They obviously didn't think like we do and most assuredly didn't use language as we do. An Egyptologist and most everyone else would be tongue tied without these words in the vocabulary. We couldn't communicate at all. If you don't believe it then try it.
Ancient Language was tied to the reality of nature and used physical law as grammar. I know this is hard to understand and it is very unnatural to modern language speakers. But this is why linguists didn't notice it. It is a digital and metaphysical language and we have nothing that's even similar to it. It does bear some resemblance to computer code but computer code uses only a very few words because computers don't need to know a gazelle from a lion or a sunspot from the moon. Ancient man did so he had lots and lots and lots of nouns. THIS IS WHY THE LANGUAGE BREAKS ZIPF'S LAW. It's almost all nouns and even theory is expressed as nouns which we misinterpret as "Gods". Instead of word incidence lying out logarithmically it lies out in tiers. We wholly misinterpret the nature of their language (and our own) so we misinterpret the meaning of their words. Our brains aren't wired to understand AL because we must unlearn the ability to understand it in order to learn modern language. We must "grow a broccas area" and learn to think in a single dimension by constructing models of our beliefs in order to acquire modern language. At two years of age when we grow the connections needed to speak Ancient Language they are now unneeded and fall into disuse. These billions of brain cells would be needed to think and speak in three dimensional AL but they go to waste today. We think and speak in a single dimension we call a "train of thought". They didn't experience "thought" at all. They wouldn't understand the concepts of thought, belief, taxonomies, or our omniscience. We couldn't communicate any more with them than we do with bumblebees.
A word exists for everything and it did for the ancients as well. They didn't have a word for "thought" simply because "thought" did not exist. They had thousands of words for stone and it's a safe bet one (or more) of them meant "flint".
I'm "complicating" nothing. I am explaining in the simplest possible terms how and why ancient people did what they did. They did not build pyramids with magic as tombs. Their "gods" built mnemonics as a time capsule so the people of that era would not be forgotten.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
cladking
Well-Known Member
Post #377;
"Hold onto your socks here but there is also no evidence that any king was embalmed and only circumstantial evidence for sarcophagi.
I believe the kings were embalmed to make it easier to burn the body on the 5th day of the w3g-festival but the Pyramid Texts is quite
explicit that the king's body was cremated.
Our beliefs come from understanding the Ancient Language rituals of the Pyramid Texts only in terms of the "book of the dead". None
of this writing makes any sense to modern people. Egyptologists actually believe you need a doctorate in Egyptology to understand the
...(English translation of the)...
Pyramid Texts!!! This is obviously absurd. I merely claim that the Pyramid Texts are ritual read at the kings' ascension ceremonies and
they mean exactly and literally what they say. Egyptologists believe they are incantations!!!!
This is all sublimely absurd. Nobody seems to notice because everyone has been hoodwinked into believing that ancient people were
primitive, ignorant and superstitious versions of ourselves. They believe this despite the lack of any corroborating evidence and despite
extensive evidence to the contrary.
It is apparent that we wholly misapprehend the great pyramid builders and this situation exists because of our beliefs. It exists because
of sample bias and because we can see only what we believe. It exists because we can't even see the natures of consciousness, humanity,
or life in general. It exists because Egyptology refuses to test their assumptions and beliefs. It exists through inertia and the utter fail-
ure of 19th century science.
I believe people in the future will laugh at us and our naivete. "Egyptologist" could become the punchline of every joke. The longer they
refuse to systematically apply modern science and knowledge to the study of the pyramids and their builders the worse it will be in the
future."
What is unreasonable about the answer that ancient people weren't like us so ritual was simply more important to them than it is to us?
Simply stated it is merely Egyptological belief that the structure that's now missing from the east side of G1 was a "mortuary temple". Far more likely it was infrastructure for building the pyramid. Incredibly Egyptologists believe everything we see at Giza it religious and magical in nature and they've identified no infrastructure at all. This is what's unreasonable. The causeway was not a "holy walkway", it was a ramp. The valley temple was not a religious structure, it was a port. Everything we see at Giza is INFRASTRUCTURE. The people did not have beliefs and religions. The Pyramid Texts is not a book of incantation, it is a book of ritual. Across the board everything was for practical reasons and ritual. Even "ritual" has practical reasons.
It's not reasonable to presume the lack of evidence for tombs proves they were tombs. It;'s not reasonable to assume the lack of evidence for ramps means they mustta used ramps.
And it is especially not reasonable to presume that ancient people were just like us and thought just like us but this is exactly what Egyptology has done.
sooda
Veteran Member
Every day for the past couple of months there are are spectacular new finds coming out of Egypt and none of them mention your theories.
You have never been to Egypt , have you?
cladking
Well-Known Member
Every single new find since 2006 has supported my theory or been neutral. Every single new find has contradicted orthodoxy or been neutral. Some have simultaneously supported my theory and contradicted orthodoxy. The news has been on my side and I predict it will "always" be on my side in the future.
cladking
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There are linguists in charge of reverse engineering the pyramids!!! Linguists make the decisions about what tests should be run even what the results of the tests mean!!! Linguists are not studying the pyramids and even make statements that the only way to understand the pyramids is to look away from them!!! They have been looking away from the pyramids from the very beginning because everything they needed to know about them was assumed; that they must have been built by superstitious primitives as tombs by means of ramps!!!!
This is the state of Egyptology. If they find something new about the pyramids then it was strictly inadvertent as they were looking for gold and dead bumpkins. There were important results that could prove my theory four years ago but they refuse to investigate them or even to provide the data already gathered to the public AND TO other Egyptologists. Instead of proceeding with the research that showed how the pyramid was built and what it was used for they shuffled around muon detectors in an attempt to look for gold and proof of their own failed and debunked "theories" about what "mustta been".
Mysterious 'Hidden Chamber' in Great Pyramid Confirmed by New Scans - The Daily Grail
For most people it's hard to believe that we inhabit a stinky footed world that used to be completely different. We have only the evidence of our own eyes and it seems that if linguists are pretend engineers then that is the way things should be. If these pretend engineers think pyramids should be studied without science and with their back turned to then then that is the natural way to study ancient works. If math and science aren't taught to Egyptologists then they must not need math or science. If linguists say that superstition makes people strong and wise then why shouldn't it be so?
Who am I to argue with trained linguists. Who am I to point out our priests have no clothes!
sooda
Veteran Member
gnostic
The Lost One
He is neither.
He cannot read hieroglyphs. He can only read translation of the hieroglyphs, and interpreted them (translation) that best fit his conspiracy theory.
cladking
Well-Known Member
At least O can speak English and I know what the word "conspiracy" means.
What language can you read write or speak properly?
gnostic
The Lost One
I have never claimed to be able to read hieroglyphs.
What I do know is you cannot read them too. Reading English, and the translation of the Pyramid Texts mean squats to me, because you really have no qualifications or authority to say what your interpretations of the Pyramid Texts say or don’t say.
And that all it is, interpretations, since you cannot read hieroglyphs, and that’s really all you can do.
cladking
Well-Known Member
This just shows your lack of command of the English language.
I never said a word about anything other than your inability to even know what the word "conspiracy" means.
You so rarely address a point it seem you are reading a different post than I write in a different language.
OK, I can talk about what the Pyramid Texts actually say but you won't address this either, you'll talk about something else. The Pyramid Texts literally says the pyramids are not tombs and suggests they were built by "boats" that "fly up and alight". The literal meaning of the PT is in my opinion the INTENDED MEANING OF THE AUTHORS. Try to keep up with me here; you don't need a degree in Egyptology to read the literal meaning of the words in the PT. You need that dictionary that you can't seem to use properly.
sooda
Veteran Member
There is some interesting news out of Egypt about two 7,000 year old structures recently discovered. Two years older than known pyramids.
cladking
Well-Known Member
I've finally figured out what everyone has been missing in these words for 150 years;
The Pyramid Texts Index
Incredibly no one noticed there are no abstractions!!! Imagine writing that has no words for "belief", "thought", taxonomies, or reductionism AND NO ONE NOTICED!!! This is just staggering that no one noticed because these words account for most words of every modern language. Almost all their words were nouns and people never noticed.
OBVIOUSLY their language didn't work like ours and they couldn't have thought like us.
Yet, Egyptologists are still whistling past the graveyard of their failed theories and beliefs.
They still refuse to do testing,
The Pyramid Texts Index
Incredibly no one noticed there are no abstractions!!! Imagine writing that has no words for "belief", "thought", taxonomies, or reductionism AND NO ONE NOTICED!!! This is just staggering that no one noticed because these words account for most words of every modern language. Almost all their words were nouns and people never noticed.
OBVIOUSLY their language didn't work like ours and they couldn't have thought like us.
Yet, Egyptologists are still whistling past the graveyard of their failed theories and beliefs.
They still refuse to do testing,
cladking
Well-Known Member
It appears that the Meidum Pyramid may have begun by building a large tower core on solid foundation pulling stones up on this core from above. They added steps that sat on no foundation other then a leveled surface as they went. Stones for the tower core and the steps were pulled up from the step tops. The tower core was built in accretion layers and preceded step construction. Step tops were partially filled as they went to buttress the step sides and provide a destination for the casing stones being mined during the life of the project. The uppermost stones were pulled up from below as well and then the pyramids were finished from the top down. ie- the top step was completely finished before the step immediately below was finished. Casing stone was added from the bottom of each step going upward with the bottom course laid on stones designed to support them and then accept a narrow thin band of stone all the way around.
It appears that the tower core was intended principally to accept and distribute weight. Most of the bulk of the pyramid rested on it and most especially the bulk of the center of the pyramid that was heaviest. Much of the weight of the pyramid leaned against this core relieving forces on the bottom of the pyramid. Meidum partially collapsed during construction and then completely collapsed since and is now "stable". The first collapse may have been precipitated by poor engineering but the subsequent collapsing was probably earthquake. It appears the technique didn't work but even if I'm correct the sample size is too small and data too limited to draw conclusions like this.
It is undetermined at this time whether G1 has such a tower core or not but it would hardly be surprising. I believe the theory is sound and it does allow much lighter building of the steps and backing stone just as the gravimeteric scan indicates. The step tops are higher density chiefly because these need to be stronger to support a bottom row of casing stones and to minimize the danger of stones coming out. There are other activities at the step tops that would tend to cause higher density and these were working surfaces for years. I believe this would cause these to act as a delineation between different density regions but chiefly these region are the result of different practices in filling of step tops.
I might have misinterpreted the high density region in G1 at ~365' on the NE side. Rather than being a storage area for water it might be the top of a tower core. This would suggest the highest unbalanced outward forces on the structure are about 200' up on the SE corner.
I believe there is and has been enough instrumentation and theory to solve how these were built in a very short time. All that is required is to apply modern science to the question. Everyone is fumbling around in the dark because someone put linguists in charge of the light switch.
G1 scan;
I believe the means of building pyramids was forgotten about 3500 years ago when the last "Nephilim" died. He could not record it because he spoke a different language. He couldn't record any of his knowledge.
But the means to reverse engineer these can be deduced from the metaphysical language in which the rituals that were practiced at the kings' ascension ceremonies were written. These rituals are of no importance at all other than that they can provide insights into specific events and the very nature of building pyramids. The language itself will, eventually, prove to be far more important. The language can be adapted to suit modern needs and modern knowledge. The language is a mathematical formatting for reality itself which is manifested in the human brain which reflects reality itself. It might be said that in a very real way even DNA is a sort of reflection of reality; A doubled ouroboros in three dimensions.
It appears that the tower core was intended principally to accept and distribute weight. Most of the bulk of the pyramid rested on it and most especially the bulk of the center of the pyramid that was heaviest. Much of the weight of the pyramid leaned against this core relieving forces on the bottom of the pyramid. Meidum partially collapsed during construction and then completely collapsed since and is now "stable". The first collapse may have been precipitated by poor engineering but the subsequent collapsing was probably earthquake. It appears the technique didn't work but even if I'm correct the sample size is too small and data too limited to draw conclusions like this.
It is undetermined at this time whether G1 has such a tower core or not but it would hardly be surprising. I believe the theory is sound and it does allow much lighter building of the steps and backing stone just as the gravimeteric scan indicates. The step tops are higher density chiefly because these need to be stronger to support a bottom row of casing stones and to minimize the danger of stones coming out. There are other activities at the step tops that would tend to cause higher density and these were working surfaces for years. I believe this would cause these to act as a delineation between different density regions but chiefly these region are the result of different practices in filling of step tops.
I might have misinterpreted the high density region in G1 at ~365' on the NE side. Rather than being a storage area for water it might be the top of a tower core. This would suggest the highest unbalanced outward forces on the structure are about 200' up on the SE corner.
I believe there is and has been enough instrumentation and theory to solve how these were built in a very short time. All that is required is to apply modern science to the question. Everyone is fumbling around in the dark because someone put linguists in charge of the light switch.
G1 scan;
I believe the means of building pyramids was forgotten about 3500 years ago when the last "Nephilim" died. He could not record it because he spoke a different language. He couldn't record any of his knowledge.
But the means to reverse engineer these can be deduced from the metaphysical language in which the rituals that were practiced at the kings' ascension ceremonies were written. These rituals are of no importance at all other than that they can provide insights into specific events and the very nature of building pyramids. The language itself will, eventually, prove to be far more important. The language can be adapted to suit modern needs and modern knowledge. The language is a mathematical formatting for reality itself which is manifested in the human brain which reflects reality itself. It might be said that in a very real way even DNA is a sort of reflection of reality; A doubled ouroboros in three dimensions.
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gnostic
The Lost One
Now, I might have gone along with all this, from what I quoted above. I might have agree with you, and even given you a “like” or something...if you have kept your reply focused on the engineering of the pyramids.
You could have stopped here.
But no, cladking, you had to return this tiresome subject about metaphysical language, and gone completely off the rail, when you started talking about Nephilim, some Jewish myths about part-angel & part-human offspring.
Why do you need to go to the woo?
cladking
Well-Known Member
Because this engineering which I discovered by reverse engineering simultaneously with solving the language is just that SIMPLE and OBVIOUS. That it is simple and obvious and that there is no reason it should ever have been forgotten begs the question of why wasn't it known today and how could it have ever been forgotten. All the clues are right there in our faces so we might have looked at the pyramids and said "they mustta used counterweights" but instead we looked and said "they mustta used ramps". The end of the post is an attempt to explain why we can't see what's right in front of our face and why it was forgotten.
The next question will be "so why didn't the Egyptians record it", but as I've been pointing they DID. They recorded it in plain English and in drawings that show exactly how they were built but we can't see that either because it has a wholly different perspective by people who don't think or see like us.
I'm hoping to have a big series of breakthroughs over the next couple years as a result of several new lines of research. Recently I've been distracted by this pyramid which may or may not have been built almost exactly like G1. As I've said in the past there is a lot represented in Ancient Language. Every time I think I've pulled on the last string more skeins of meaning are found. Our language is like a wire, there's was a rope. It is a rich tapestry of meaning.
Most of the best clues come from the ancient writing because without it we don't know what we are looking at. We need our beliefs to format what we see. If you want to see the Great Pyramid then you must change what you believe.
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