And Muslims don't integrate ?

[YmirGF]

Am Canadian and can tell you that is for sure incorrect. Ever gone near a rural conservative community? Refugees are getting blamed for a lot of things, and personally having met a few and hearing their stories of many Canadians have been much less then welcoming.

It sounds like you must be from Alberta. I'm hard pressed to think of any other area of the country labelled as "rural conservative". I still say you are quite wrong overall. I simply cannot remember seeing on national TV or reading in national print media or hearing a national political leader screaming about Muslim's failure to integrate into Canadian society. Though I don't doubt that there are some small pockets of knuckle-draggers I do believe they are few and far between.

 

[YmirGF]

What I do not get is why it is felt necessary to dismiss those who are trying to see Muslims as making good strides to integrate into modern cultures? On the surface to poo-poo whatever views which uphold integration as an ideal, views which attempt to offer role models exemplifying it, which in and of itself shows clearly a direction and desire for integration, to say it's all a bunch of BS instead is betraying the ones who themselves are the ones who do not desire integration. In other words, it's not about the Muslims, it's about the conservatives who hate foreigners and try to make them into the enemy. Otherwise, why not embrace and welcome those who promote role-models of integration, rather than saying it's worthless? That's the only thing that makes sense to me here. The ones refusing integration are the ones complaining about Muslims.

One thing I was going to bring up is what about all the Muslim doctors and lawyers here in North America? They touch the lives of far more people that the 5 o' the month and are far more representative of integration.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Nadiya Hussain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_British_Bake_Off
Is far from common amongst Muslim women in the UK, even before winning the Great British bake off.

 

[Godobeyer]

- quoting the Daily Mail
- apparently still not understanding what was wrong with what you wrote

Next link better not be a Sun article.

There are many Website talking about . but seem your arrogant is ON as usuall !
Jamala - 1944 (Ukraine) Winning Performance at the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest

 

[YmirGF]

Nadiya Hussain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_British_Bake_Off
Is far from common amongst Muslim women in the UK, even before winning the Great British bake off.

Thanks Terry. That pretty much confirms my thoughts about why Buckingham Palace would have chosen her to bake the cake. 1. She is an excellent baker 2. It is a Media gold. It makes the Royals look so magnanimous. Now, let's see if they hire her for the Royal household....

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Thanks Terry. That pretty much confirms my thoughts about why Buckingham Palace would have chosen her to bake the cake. 1. She is an excellent baker 2. It is a Media gold. It makes the Royals look so magnanimous. Now, let's see if they hire her for the Royal household....

Royal wages are far too low to attract a media princess.
Who ever hired her, to make the cake, did so for the publicity she would bring to the occasion. The royal chef or bakers, could quite easily have done the job.

 

[Flankerl]

There are many Website talking about . but seem your arrogant is ON as usuall !
Jamala - 1944 (Ukraine) Winning Performance at the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest

Which (again) has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Someone explain it to him, I am not doing it.

 

[AsianActivist]

Muslims only integrate superficially and then temporarily. It's called kitman.

The stories that Muslims tell between themselves is very different from the stories they tell in public. For instance up to 99% of Muslims support Shariah Law and many within that 99% support death for apostasy. That to me screams out the opposite of integration. In their hearts and minds they would rather live in the 7th century than the 21st.

 

[Father Heathen]

USA =/= ROTW

Neither does <insert European country of choice here>, so...?

 

[YmirGF]

Neither does <insert European country of choice here>, so...?

One can rightly conclude that it is a problem in many areas even if other areas don't seem to have much problem.

 

[blue taylor]

Muslims only integrate superficially and then temporarily. It's called kitman.

The stories that Muslims tell between themselves is very different from the stories they tell in public. For instance up to 99% of Muslims support Shariah Law and many within that 99% support death for apostasy. That to me screams out the opposite of integration. In their hearts and minds they would rather live in the 7th century than the 21st.

Source?

 

[Jabar]

Who are those sexy ladies?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Actually the Niqab is voluntary and not mandatory but Hijab is mandatory in 2 Muslim countries but in Syria(the refugees) and other Islamic countries it's voluntary.

But why wearing one specific dress is a big issue, let women be free whether wearing hijab or bikini.

Full-face veiling is mandatory in:

Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq and Yemen at least.

I don't think forcing women to veil or not to veil is the way to go. If they make a free choice either way it should be respected.

 

[FearGod]

Full-face veiling is mandatory in:

Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq and Yemen at least.

I don't think forcing women to veil or not to veil is the way to go. If they make a free choice either way it should be respected.

Better to read this.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

What one needs is statistics that measure integration in some coherent scale and compares the level of integration of various religious and ethnic minorities and see how the muslim immigrants are doing in terms of first and second generation integration and if there is any correlation between religiosity and the level of integration. Facts, not pictures. Are there any?

Well, yes there are, for the UK. The recent ComRes survey revealed some very disturbing facts:

> 36% of 16 to 24-year-olds believe if a Muslim converts to another religion they should be punished by death, compared with 19% of over-55s
> 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools, compared with 19% of over-55s
> 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Sharia to British law compared with 17% of over-55s
> 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the veil, compared with only 28% of over-55s
> 13% of 16 to 24-year-olds "admire organisations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West" compared with 3% of over-55s

Note not just the high percentages against integration, but the fact that the younger generation are less tolerant than their grandparents.

 

[sayak83]

Well, yes there are, for the UK. The recent ComRes survey revealed some very disturbing facts:

> 36% of 16 to 24-year-olds believe if a Muslim converts to another religion they should be punished by death, compared with 19% of over-55s
> 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools, compared with 19% of over-55s
> 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Sharia to British law compared with 17% of over-55s
> 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the veil, compared with only 28% of over-55s
> 13% of 16 to 24-year-olds "admire organisations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West" compared with 3% of over-55s

Note not just the high percentages against integration, but the fact that the younger generation are less tolerant than their grandparents.

Disturbing findings. Link please?

 

[Aquitaine]

Actually the Niqab is voluntary and not mandatory but Hijab is mandatory in 2 Muslim countries but in Syria(the refugees) and other Islamic countries it's voluntary.

But why wearing one specific dress is a big issue, let women be free whether wearing hijab or bikini.

Whilst I agree with your sentiments (except with clothes covering the face), somehow I doubt you'd be fine with women being allowed to freely wear a bikini in your country. . .

 

[Aquitaine]

Note not just the high percentages against integration, but the fact that the younger generation are less tolerant than their grandparents

Probably because their grandparents had the experience of actually living in a muslim country, sought an alternative country to live in and therefore aren't fooled by rose-tinted idealism of living in a sharia society.

 

[FearGod]

Whilst I agree with your sentiments (except with clothes covering the face), somehow I doubt you'd be fine with women being allowed to freely wear a bikini in your country. . .

In my country they're allowed to swim wearing bikini but honestly saying most of them don't feel comfortable
to swim in a place if men are around, they feel a shame.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Disturbing findings. Link please?

http://www.comres.co.uk/wp-content/...British-Muslims-Poll_FINAL-Tables_Feb2015.pdf

PS https://duckduckgo.com is your friend!