And Now -- Presenting for your amusement -- HHS Director RFK!

[Revoltingest]

How does making an anti-V in charge of Health make life better?

No more children injured by vaccines for
polio, whooping cough, tetanus, hepatitis,
rubella, diphtheria, etc. They'll just endure
these childhood diseases, which aren't all
that bad.....oh....wait....they can be deadly.

 

[Twilight Hue]

How does making an anti-V in charge of Health make life better?

Maybe by not labeling one anti-vax for starters when the issue had involved at the time , an experimental vaccine that RFK Jr didn't want to see forced on people.

It was really a safety issue over experimental vaccination that he is being accused of being anti-vax over by the radicals.

Note there was never a point by point rebuttal made against him as to exactly why he was wrong. Instead , they collectively attacked his character labeling him as being extreme and dangerous instead. That's why he sued over covid censorship that never gave him an opportunity to elaborate the reasons why he was against this particular vaccination.

 

[InChrist]

Of course you'd say that.
Love for Trump means blindly attacking critics.
I made the post in jest, but he did actually advocate
a horse de-wormer (Ivermectin) to treat Covid.
And yes, Ivermectin treats more parasites than just
worms in horses. But it's inappropriate for viruses.

What to know about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Trump's pick for health secretary

President-elect Donald Trump has picked a prominent vaccine skeptic to lead the nation’s sprawling public health apparatus. Robert F.

apnews.com

What Might Happen to Public Health under RFK, Jr.

Federal health scientists voice concern over an anticipated takeover by medical skeptics in Trump’s second administration

www.scientificamerican.com

So who's the ignant one now, eh.

I definitely don’t love Trump. My views on the subject have nothing to do with Trump.




“In the wake of the FDA settling a lawsuit brought against it for wantonly and aggressively smearing ivermectin, the agency has deleted its postings. That’s good, but we shouldn’t forget how egregiously it mischaracterized the drug, ignored copious evidence in its favor, and portrayed its proponents as dangerous crackpots.”

“On March 22, the FDA rightly acquiesced and agreed to remove their anti-ivermectin postings due to 1) a lawsuit filed against them and 2) the impossible task of having to defend themselves with an overwhelming amount of data disagreeing with not only dispensing medical recommendations, but the published data backing their Covid-19 use (e.g., see below).

With that gone, the APhA, ASHP, and AMA assertions suddenly have no leg upon which to stand.

Several non-FDA links within their press releases have (unsurprisingly) also quietly vanished with no explanation. NIH references are slated to be shut down, on top of multiple FDA and CDC links already no longer working.

Ivermectin Mechanism of Action, History and Evidence:​

The broad antiviral mechanism of action of ivermectin is complicated and may partially involve blocking the uptake of viral proteins, but the bottom line is that it has been shown to yield positive results in a variety of published results for Covid-19. Had APhA, ASHP, and AMA pharmacists and physicians independently examined the data, (as I, just one drug-safety analyst without fancy headquarters, have done) rather than simply parroting now-deleted narratives of others, they would have learned that ivermectin works as an antiviral.

It has an extensively proven track record of being not just safe – but astonishingly safe for a variety of viral diseases. This is not breaking or fringe science; it has beenknown for years. Ivermectin is such a safe and effective drug that back in 2015 it was the first drug for infectious disease associated with a Nobel Prize in 60 years. “

Medical Elites' Disgrace Over Ivermectin ⋆ Brownstone Institute

In the wake of the FDA settling a lawsuit brought against it for wantonly and aggressively smearing ivermectin, the agency has deleted its postings.

brownstone.org

 

[Estro Felino]

Donald Trump was once credited with "Warp-9," the high-speed development of new vaccines for COVID-19. And now he has nominated anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to head up Health and Human Services.

I'm done bringing up this losing Cabinet. Why bother? It's only going to get worse!

The United States is headed down a terrible slope, and apparently, that's exactly what Americans actually want. This is who they are. So who are the rest of us to chide them for it?

But you have the fuchsia PM, Trudeau Le Beau.
Be content with him.

 

[Estro Felino]

You guys can't understand what Kennedy means to us all, in Italy.
He is a hero...he fought against the pensée unique in a terrible time.

 

[Estro Felino]

Make America Healthy Again.

People's health is more important than Big Pharma's profits.

 

[Viker]

I definitely don’t love Trump. My views on the subject have nothing to do with Trump.




“In the wake of the FDA settling a lawsuit brought against it for wantonly and aggressively smearing ivermectin, the agency has deleted its postings. That’s good, but we shouldn’t forget how egregiously it mischaracterized the drug, ignored copious evidence in its favor, and portrayed its proponents as dangerous crackpots.”

“On March 22, the FDA rightly acquiesced and agreed to remove their anti-ivermectin postings due to 1) a lawsuit filed against them and 2) the impossible task of having to defend themselves with an overwhelming amount of data disagreeing with not only dispensing medical recommendations, but the published data backing their Covid-19 use (e.g., see below).

With that gone, the APhA, ASHP, and AMA assertions suddenly have no leg upon which to stand.

Several non-FDA links within their press releases have (unsurprisingly) also quietly vanished with no explanation. NIH references are slated to be shut down, on top of multiple FDA and CDC links already no longer working.

Ivermectin Mechanism of Action, History and Evidence:​

The broad antiviral mechanism of action of ivermectin is complicated and may partially involve blocking the uptake of viral proteins, but the bottom line is that it has been shown to yield positive results in a variety of published results for Covid-19. Had APhA, ASHP, and AMA pharmacists and physicians independently examined the data, (as I, just one drug-safety analyst without fancy headquarters, have done) rather than simply parroting now-deleted narratives of others, they would have learned that ivermectin works as an antiviral.

It has an extensively proven track record of being not just safe – but astonishingly safe for a variety of viral diseases. This is not breaking or fringe science; it has beenknown for years. Ivermectin is such a safe and effective drug that back in 2015 it was the first drug for infectious disease associated with a Nobel Prize in 60 years. “

Medical Elites' Disgrace Over Ivermectin ⋆ Brownstone Institute

In the wake of the FDA settling a lawsuit brought against it for wantonly and aggressively smearing ivermectin, the agency has deleted its postings.

brownstone.org

Anything from brownstone can be written off as fake or misconstrued. Ivermectin always has been and always will be used for treatment against worms and parasites, COVID-19 is a virus. It's basic biology 101. It can not treat or prevent any viral infection. Go ahead, get more people killed in the name of knee jerk politics.

 

[Viker]

Make America Healthy Again.

People's health is more important than Big Pharma's profits.

That's not going to happen with people in charge that know nothing about health.

 

[oldbadger]

Donald Trump was once credited with "Warp-9," the high-speed development of new vaccines for COVID-19. And now he has nominated anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to head up Health and Human Services.

I'm done bringing up this losing Cabinet. Why bother? It's only going to get worse!

The United States is headed down a terrible slope, and apparently, that's exactly what Americans actually want. This is who they are. So who are the rest of us to chide them for it?

What's going to happen is going to happen.
What might be best move now is to start thinking about how an American person or family can get the best out of the next four years (or even longer).
There's a great success waiting for the person who can publish such a book (Surviving Trump!). There will be upsides to enjoy as well as new hardships to bodyswerve around.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Hmmmm -- somebody who has demonstrably untrue beliefs about health issues in charge of health issues --- what the heck could go wrong, eh?

I hope you never face a serious health issue -- I fear you wouldn't know how to choose who could best help you.

I didn't know the head of the department of HHS would be diagnosing me.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

There are objectively good reasons these picks are poor.

Sure, I wonder if the left can explain them without insults or mental breakdowns?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

@Clizby Wampuscat has said -- about Trump, and now about Gaetz -- that "allegations" (lots of them, well attested) have not been "proven," and so he's good with them in these high power jobs.

I'd ask Clizby this: if the monsignor at the Catholic Church specifically asked for his attractive, 13-year old son to be an altar boy, and there are serious allegations about this particular monsignor, is he content that since the allegations haven't been proven that his son should go for the "private lessons" the monsignor suggests? If there's an allegation of sexual abuse at the daycare he's planning to send his kids to, but that have not been proven, would he have no qualms about sending his kids?

Okay, we're not talking about kids here -- we're talking about the nation! We are talking about putting so much power into the hands of persons against whom a very large bunch of "allegations" have been attested. But, since they haven't been "proven," well, yeah -- let's hand the country over. What could possibly go wrong, eh?

So you want to ruin someone's life over allegations. Biden was accused of sexual assault, were you ok with him being president? I don't like Gaetz but the DOJ decided to not charge him with anything in relation to the undage sex accusation. Do you happen to remember the Duke lacrosse accusations? So yeah want good evidence that someone did something wrong before I believe they committed a crime.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Yeah, I absolutely get it. It's so frustrating.

There are some things that can't be denied though, like RFK's actual history with health-related issues. It's nuts that we have to defend the idea that actual experts should be the people heading up these services, but here we are. My hope is that @Clizby Wampuscat is reasonable enough to understand the objections.

I could be wrong, though.

And if I am, the objections are being made and that is better than letting these opinions hang out there without objection.

I am not sold on RFK for Jr for this position but some of the objections I have seen have been inaccurate. What are your objections?

 

[Nimos]

Hmmmm -- somebody who has demonstrably untrue beliefs about health issues in charge of health issues --- what the heck could go wrong, eh?

My guess is that he is just there to figure out how to make the medical industry a more profitable business, not better. Maybe he is good at that

 

[Revoltingest]

I definitely don’t love Trump. My views on the subject have nothing to do with Trump.

You posted....
"I think that’s truly and ignorant remark."
This exhibits more than mere difference of opinion to discuss.
It's open hostility to correcting the gospel according to Trump.
That could only stem from belonging his cult. This I call "love".
You could substitute "devotion" or "loyalty" if you prefer.
But my diagnosis remains.

“In the wake of the FDA settling a lawsuit brought against it for wantonly and aggressively smearing ivermectin, the agency has deleted its postings. That’s good, but we shouldn’t forget how egregiously it mischaracterized the drug, ignored copious evidence in its favor, and portrayed its proponents as dangerous crackpots.”

“On March 22, the FDA rightly acquiesced and agreed to remove their anti-ivermectin postings due to 1) a lawsuit filed against them and 2) the impossible task of having to defend themselves with an overwhelming amount of data disagreeing with not only dispensing medical recommendations, but the published data backing their Covid-19 use (e.g., see below).

The above claim misunderstands the suit & resolution.

FDA Did Not Change Position on Ivermectin Use, Contrary to Online Claims - FactCheck.org

In response to a civil suit, lawyers for the Food and Drug Administration described the agency's warnings about the unapproved use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 as "recommendations." Although that description doesn't reveal new information, some conservative outlets have falsely claimed it's...

www.factcheck.org

From your own links, the suit wasn't about using
Ivermectin to treat Covid. The complaint addressed
"suggestion" that it was used only in animals, but not
humans.
The FDA has long approved Ivermectin for treating
parasites in humans. But it's still not approved for
treating Covid.

FDA approved ivermectin, but not for COVID-19

Americans who have turned to ivermectin to treat COVID-19 have drawn both ridicule and support. One recent social media

www.politifact.com

Excerpted...

• Ivermectin was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1996 to treat two diseases caused by parasites. It hasn’t been approved or authorized by the FDA to prevent or treat COVID-19, and ivermectin intended for human use is different from ivermectin intended for animals.
• "Use of animal ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in humans is dangerous," the FDA says.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So you want to ruin someone's life over allegations. Biden was accused of sexual assault, were you ok with him being president? I don't like Gaetz but the DOJ decided to not charge him with anything in relation to the undage sex accusation. Do you happen to remember the Duke lacrosse accusations? So yeah want good evidence that someone did something wrong before I believe they committed a crime.

I notice you ducked the question.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Well, if your Jewish, Kennedy says you don't have to worry about COVID.

RFK Jr., who mused COVID was designed to spare Ashkenazi Jews, tapped to head HHS

Trump says he's 'thrilled' to nominate the Kennedy family scion, a rabid anti-vaxxer who has compared vaccine mandates to the Holocaust, to head vast US federal health bureaucracy

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, if your Jewish, Kennedy says you don't have to worry about COVID.

RFK Jr., who mused COVID was designed to spare Ashkenazi Jews, tapped to head HHS

Trump says he's 'thrilled' to nominate the Kennedy family scion, a rabid anti-vaxxer who has compared vaccine mandates to the Holocaust, to head vast US federal health bureaucracy

www.timesofisrael.com

This attitude suggests that government resources
will be spent more on pursuing conspiracy theories
down rabbit holes, & less on research & treatment.
The kind of treatment with efficacy....not telling
people to drink unpasteurized milk or take horse
de-worming medicine.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I notice you ducked the question.

Which one?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Which one?

Middle paragraph -- the one that begins "I'd ask Clizby Wumpuscat this:"