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And The Border Is Secure??????

esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
esmith said:
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Seems that Magas are silent on their party
taking direct orders from Trump to scuttle
the bi-partisan border security bill they'd
just crafted. Why?
Trump didn't want the problem solved.
Rampant illegal infiltration serves his goals.
esmith said:
In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
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It's ironic that the Maga's candidate
for President is a convicted felon too.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
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And you think Fox is a reliable source on this? Heck, maybe old copies of MAD magazine would be more reliable.

Instead, maybe read this: Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org
 
Argentbear

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
esmith said:
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
Click to expand...
As a comparison can you say just how did Trump's border czar do with these figures?
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
metis said:
And you think Fox is a reliable source on this? Heck, maybe old copies of MAD magazine would be more reliable.

Instead, maybe read this: Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org
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Guess you didn't bother to read the source Fox used did you. Try to not let you blind bias keep the facts from you.,

McALLEN, Texas (Border Report) — The head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement told a Texas border lawmaker this week that 435,000 undocumented migrants with criminal convictions have been released by the agency to cities around the United States.

Border Report Live: Where illegal immigration is trending up
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.

“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,” Lechleitner wrote.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
esmith said:
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
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Well you and me know full well that their intent is to allow anybody and everybody into this country regardless of background checks, criminal history or the danger they pose for the citizenry.

If something ever happens, I hope these people suffer the harshest penalty of the law over their complete disregard and outright treason against the American citizens of this country that they swore to protect just so they can get foreigners to vote for them.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
Guess you didn't bother to read the source Fox used did you. Try to not let you blind bias keep the facts from you.,

McALLEN, Texas (Border Report) — The head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement told a Texas border lawmaker this week that 435,000 undocumented migrants with criminal convictions have been released by the agency to cities around the United States.

Border Report Live: Where illegal immigration is trending up
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.

“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,” Lechleitner wrote.
Click to expand...

Between the Fox propaganda channel and FactCheck.Org, the latter of which used official ICE records, I'll choose the latter.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
metis said:
Between the Fox propaganda channel and FactCheck.Org, the latter of which used official ICE records, I'll choose the latter.
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The data presented was from the ICE Deputy Director. Are you saying he is incorrect?

Where do you get the idea that the news, not opinions presented by Fox is propaganda. At least they are not the lap dogs of the Democrats (reference the debate between Trump and Harris).
 
Argentbear

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
esmith said:
The data presented was from the ICE Deputy Director. Are you saying he is incorrect?

Where do you get the idea that the news, not opinions presented by Fox is propaganda. At least they are not the lap dogs of the Democrats (reference the debate between Trump and Harris).
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yes it was so mean of ABC to call out Trump's blatant lie about immigrants abducting people's pets to sacrifice and eat.
 
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Argentbear

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
esmith said:
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
Click to expand...
Fox sort of forgot to report that the numbers are the totals of incidents starting in 1984. Numbers got sorta big if you collect them for 40 years
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
RestlessSoul said:
According to the Lakota Sioux, you're all illegals.
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Well, my family has been here since the 1640s so eventually I think we're fine.

The latest came in the early 1700s so there's that. I mean, I think after 300 or more years we're OK.

And finally, the Lakota Souix were largely in the Great Plains region. My family settled on the East Coast, far from any Lakota Souix.
americanindiancoc.org

Lakota (Sioux) Nation: A Glimpse into Great Plains Heritage

The Lakota Sioux, a prominent Native American tribe, have a rich history and vibrant culture that spans centuries. Their story is one of resilience,
americanindiancoc.org americanindiancoc.org
 
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Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Argentbear said:
Fox sort of forgot to report that the numbers are the totals of incidents starting in 1984. Numbers got sorta big if you collect them for 40 years
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That rather explains why the numbers appear so absurd, but this is the problem with Fox news, what they do in news (not opinion) may be factual but is too often only part of the relevant information. :(
 
Pogo

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Kathryn said:
Well, my family has been here since the 1640s so eventually I think we're fine.

The latest came in the early 1700s so there's that. I mean, I think after 300 or more years we're OK.

And finally, the Lakota Souix were largely in the Great Plains region. My family settled on the East Coast, far from any Lakota Souix.
americanindiancoc.org

Lakota (Sioux) Nation: A Glimpse into Great Plains Heritage

The Lakota Sioux, a prominent Native American tribe, have a rich history and vibrant culture that spans centuries. Their story is one of resilience,
americanindiancoc.org americanindiancoc.org
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Ah, the original covert saboteurs and subversive infiltrators. You think they bear less guilt than the conscripts that came later?
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Pogo said:
Ah, the original covert saboteurs and subversive infiltrators. You think they bear less guilt than the conscripts that came later?
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It wasn't simply conscripts that came later than the early 1700s.
 
F

F1fan

Veteran Member
esmith said:
Seems that the White House and the Border Czar is silent on these figures.
Number of non-detained noncitizens convicted homicide and sexault assualt
Homicide- 13,099
Sexault assualt 15,811
The non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not in ICE custody.
There are more than 7.4 million people on that docket, up from around 3.7 million when former President Trump left office.
www.foxnews.com

White House mum amid outrage over data showing how many illegal immigrant criminals are in US

The White House did not immediately comment on data showing the number of noncitizen convicted criminals who are not detained in ICE custody.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In addition:
ICE Deputy Director Patrick Lechleitner sent a letter Wednesday to U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-Texas, saying as of July 21, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on the agency’s non-detained docket (NDD), meaning they are not detained while they await immigration proceedings.
“Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges,”
Click to expand...
Why didn't Trump fix it? He had 4 years and did nothing. He even sabotaged a new border bill, so he's obviously not the right huy for the job. Let's get Harris in the White House, and democrats in congress who will work with republicans to pass the border bill and get the flow of migrants under control. Remember, the administration has to follow the current law. Trump sabotaged a reform law for political purposes, so he's not the right guy for the job since he doesn't care about the problem.
 
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