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And The Border Is Secure??????

Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Subduction Zone said:
Five Democrats voted against it. One was Chuck Schumer that did so because of an odd rule that would allow the bill's reintroduction. So in reality four Democrats voted against it. Schumer would have supported it if it could have passed:

www.newsweek.com

Full list of Democrats who voted against border deal

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said the bill was killed by Republicans to help Donald Trump in November's election.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

That means opposition by Republicans was roughly ten to one. The Republicans killed the bill.
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Say it if it makes you feel better. It was a crap bill that included tons of international aid to both Ukraine and Israel. TONS.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
Say it if it makes you feel better. It was a crap bill that included tons of international aid to both Ukraine and Israel. TONS.
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No. Once again you need to learn how politics work. Those were needed funds. They are both in the interest of the US, but Republicans are no longer patriots. Forget about the fact that it is the right thing to do for Ukraine. It goes against our interests for dictatorships to get too powerful. Ukraine needs its freedom both because the people should have that right, and because it helps keep Russia in check. Israel is also along term ally of ours. And the Republicans will give them even more money, but without strings attached. It was a bill that allowed us to act like adults when it came to your allies. Sometimes one side or the other needs a little extra kick to get that job done.

Do you have anything of substance?
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Subduction Zone said:
No. Once again you need to learn how politics work. Those were needed funds. They are both in the interest of the US, but Republicans are no longer patriots. Forget about the fact that it is the right thing to do for Ukraine. It goes against our interests for dictatorships to get too powerful. Ukraine needs its freedom both because the people should have that right, and because it helps keep Russia in check. Israel is also along term ally of ours. And the Republicans will give them even more money, but without strings attached. It was a bill that allowed us to act like adults when it came to your allies. Sometimes one side or the other needs a little extra kick to get that job done.

Do you have anything of substance?
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I know how politics works but that doesn't mean I agree with how politics works. As for "substance" I am guessing you really mean do I have anything that agrees with you and I probably don't politically.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
I know how politics works but that doesn't mean I agree with how politics works. As for "substance" I am guessing you really mean do I have anything that agrees with you and I probably don't politically.
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You would have to show that spending on its own was wrong. You cannot refute it with a naive approach to politics.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Subduction Zone said:
That was the second sentence in my post.
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Oh I didn't see it even though I went back through the posts. Oh was it when you said, "And not happy."? I thought that was directed at me. I feel fine today. Sorry if you are not feeling happy.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
Oh I didn't see it even though I went back through the posts. Oh was it when you said, "And not happy."? I thought that was directed at me. I feel fine today. Sorry if you are not feeling happy.
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When I know that there will be grave injustices done I cannot be happy. And I am not talking about the now relatively minor fact that Trump will escape punishment for all of the crimes that he committed. I am talking about the harm that he has promised to others.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Kathryn said:
Say it if it makes you feel better. It was a crap bill that included tons of international aid to both Ukraine and Israel. TONS.
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And yet you will find people that are denying those earmarks and riders are added on into that bill.
 
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