Angelogical/Demonological Fallacies

[Sasa]

In your opinion.

No, actually it's the truth, not my opinion. All man-made religious organizations (Catholisism, Baptism, Judaism, LDS etc.) bear only partial truths. Some bear more truth than others, but partial nonetheless. It's my duty, being in service to God, to dispel the fallacies and share only the truth. That doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but it is what it is.

 

[Bishka]

No, actually it's the truth, not my opinion. All man-made religious organizations (Catholisism, Baptism, Judaism, LDS etc.) bear only partial truths. Some bear more truth than others, but partial nonetheless. It's my duty, being in service to God, to dispel the fallacies and share only the truth. That doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but it is what it is.

According to you. Everyone believes that about their own religion.

That's your truth, not mine.

My truth is the gospel of Jesus Christ through His prophets.

To each his own.

 

[Sasa]

According to you. Everyone believes that about their own religion.

Not according to me. According to the Cherubic Order and they are Yahweh's Deputies so it's as good as God saying it. So it's not my truth, it's THE truth.

What you may be failing to realize is that Religion is a set of beliefs, whether they are the truth in God's eyes or not. Religious beliefs do not equal truth because there is only ONE truth and there are many different religious beliefs. What I'm speaking about is the ONE truth. The Truth that will set you free.

I'd also like to add, so long as we're on the subject, that what your Religion is will not determine whether or not you will be Raptured or if you will make it to Christ's Kingdom. What really matters is what's in your heart, because that is what God will judge us all on when the time comes. Since our hearts dictate everything we say and do, all that really matters is whether or not our hearts are open to Christ because it's through him that we will find salvation.

 

[Bishka]

Not according to me. According to the Cherubic Order and they are Yahweh's Deputies so it's as good as God saying it. So it's not my truth, it's THE truth.

What you may be failing to realize is that Religion is a set of beliefs, whether they are the truth in God's eyes or not. Religious beliefs do not equal truth because there is only ONE truth and there are many different religious beliefs. What I'm speaking about is the ONE truth. The Truth that will set you free.

I'd also like to add, so long as we're on the subject, that what your Religion is will not determine whether or not you will be Raptured or if you will make it to Christ's Kingdom. What really matters is what's in your heart, because that is what God will judge us all on when the time comes. Since our hearts dictate everything we say and do, all that really matters is whether or not our hearts are open to Christ because it's through him that we will find salvation.

No, according to you.

You don't have proof that yours is right, and I don't have proof mine is right.

Yours is not right and neither is mine. It is for ourselves and do yourself a favor, stop assuming yours is right for everyone else, I don't do that with mine.

 

[emeth]

We all have free will. We all make our own decisions. Think about it in this way if you can. There are TONS of different religions who all believe they have the ultimate truth correct? Well, when all those religions pass away and all those people pass away--they'll all be subject to the TRUTH. God's Truth. Christ's Truth. Your interpretation of their Truth won't matter a hill of beans when you come face to face with Christ in the end. What has been proven to us...is that we ARE under guidance of Yahweh's deputies. It is our charge to spread the Truth. And WOE TO US who know and do not preach it! It is each individual's decision whether or not they accept or reject. Open your hearts to Christ and His Truth and do not commit vile acts. It's the only way.

And one more thing, obviously what is posted by any one poster is their OPINION. This is a message board..is it not? Do people really need a disclaimer?

 

[FFH]

the only human to have ever been resurrected was Christ

And it would be logical to assume that, and I have assumed the same thing, in the past, but the scriptures tell us otherwise. Many were brought forth out of their graves, at the time of Christ's resurrection, and they were reunited with their bodies.

For instance Angel Moroni, in the Book of Mormon, appeared to Joseph Smith as a personage, having flesh and bones. He was not just a spirit, but a resurrected human being.

 

[Sasa]

And it would be logical to assume that, and I have assumed the same thing, in the past, but the scriptures tell us otherwise. Many were brought forth out of their graves, at the time of Christ's resurrection, and they were reunited with their bodies.

I would stick with Logic on this. Which Scripture is it that you're referring to?

 

[FFH]

I would stick with Logic on this. Which Scripture is it that you're referring to?

Matthew 27: 52=53

52- And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

 

[zombieharlot]

Hell is an Abyss. It's spoken of in the Bible. Once you're in the Abyss, there is no leaving it. The Abyss is exactly how it sounds. It's total darkness and seclusion - separation from God and everyone else where your crimes against mankind are played over and over for you.

You still didn't really answer my question. Is Hell empty right now?

Additionally, there are Holy Ghost Observers who also have their parts to play in the Spiritual War. They are what people sometimes refer to as "Spirit Guides" or "Guardian Angels." But they aren't Angels. They were once human, went through the light and petitioned the Holy Council to become a Guide/Observer. There's nothing wrong with bridging communication with your own guide. They can be very helpful.

Can non-believers have guides?

Well, that's because you don't know Satan or what's really going on behind the scenes in the war. At THIS stage of the war he's breaking them constantly because he's becoming desperate. Also, the Holy Council and Elders are spoken of in the Bible. As far as being perfect - it is. It runs perfectly. But you have to take into account that everything/everyone has Free Will.

I may not be the most familiar with it, but that doesn't mean I know nothing. I asked you to show me where in the Bible Satan has broken any rules. And simply saying that he wasn't in the Bible times won't suffice. What would make him more desperate now than before? He has more people following him now than he ever has.

Either all of this makes sense to you or it doesn't, but it's the truth. As for whether or not it's all fair, I think it's totally fair. We're given a choice but just like any other choice we make, there may be consequences. God must be accepted on His terms. There is no other option. If you opt not to accept Him on His terms and choose to take Satan's side - you know what your fate will be because He's told you ahead of time.

I think God is the one that has acceptance issues. But that's another conversation.

 

[zombieharlot]

However, the only human to have ever been resurrected was Christ.

You're forgetting someone...






























...Lazarus!

 

[Mister_T]

all that really matters is whether or not our hearts are open to Christ

I know your debating like 3 people right now, but could you elaborate on that please? I'd like to hear exactly what you mean by that before I comment.

 

[zombieharlot]

I haven't seen a female demon, but I would imagine a female fallen angel would also appear in perfect human form, just as the male demon I saw did.

I have, however, seen an angelic female being. She had the most beautiful face, and brunette hair. I knew it was not my imagination because I saw her extreme beauty and felt her extreme righteousness.

This female angelic being appeared in full color, unlike the male demon, I mentioned earlier, which appeared in a grey scale, no colors whatsoever.

Both beings appeared having perfect faces, only one exuded extreme evil and the other exuded extreme righteousness.

Being that humans are quite ugly, imperfect, and need lots of makeup (heehee!), I would assume that this being didn't quite look like a human. Or did she just look like a perfect human? And wouldn't that mean that her looks would be equivalent to that of Eve's before the fall of mankind?

 

[FFH]

...Lazarus!

Good one...so true.

 

[Sasa]

You still didn't really answer my question. Is Hell empty right now?

No, Hell is not empty.

Can non-believers have guides?

If the person started out having an H/G Guide and becomes an unbeliever, they will probably pull back or completely away from non-believers. It's complicated though and really depends on the situation and each individual.

I may not be the most familiar with it, but that doesn't mean I know nothing. I asked you to show me where in the Bible Satan has broken any rules. And simply saying that he wasn't in the Bible times won't suffice. What would make him more desperate now than before? He has more people following him now than he ever has.

Oh Satan was most definitly around in the Bible times - and before that even. I couldn't point out anywhere in the Scriptures specifically where Satan has broken rules. I only know that he has as of late because I was personally involved in his breaking the rules. Satan is more desperate now because we're in End Times and time is running out. Simply having more followers than before doesn't matter because there are still Christians in the world. He either has to thwart prophecy and prevent the Rapture from occurring, or he's toast.

 

[Bishka]

Simply having more followers than before doesn't matter because there are still Christians in the world. He either has to thwart prophecy and prevent the Rapture from occurring, or he's toast.

And we all know he won't be able to do that.

 

[Mister_T]

I know your debating like 3 people right now, but could you elaborate on that please? I'd like to hear exactly what you mean by that before I comment.

More specifically, who goes to Hell?

 

[Sasa]

You're forgetting someone......Lazarus!

True, Lazarus was resurrected in that he was brought back to life, but he wasn't resurrected like Jesus was - in that his body was not resurrected to Heaven.

Martha said, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."
Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in Me, even if he dies, will live. Everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die—ever. Do you believe this?"
"Yes, Lord," she told Him, "I believe You are the Messiah, the Son of God, who was to come into the world."

What Jesus was saying was that if we believe (if our hearts are open to him), we will gain eternal life after our physical death. I'll consult with the Cherubs on and have more information later on this.

 

[Sasa]

I know your debating like 3 people right now, but could you elaborate on that please? I'd like to hear exactly what you mean by that before I comment.

Why don't you tell me what YOU think it means?

More specifically, who goes to Hell?

People who have committed vile crimes.

 

[FFH]

Being that humans are quite ugly, imperfect, and need lots of makeup (heehee!), I would assume that this being didn't quite look like a human. Or did she just look like a perfect human? And wouldn't that mean that her looks would be equivalent to that of Eve's before the fall of mankind?

She looked as human as anyone on earth, only think of the most beautiful brunette on this planet, that you can think of, and, she, to me, was a little more beautiful than that. I mean there are some very beautiful human beings on this planet, which would be comparable to how she looked, but she would have a slight edge over them all, simply because she is a perfect resurrected being, with no flaws.

We can all obtain these perfect resurrected bodies. Imagine everywhere you looked there were beautiful people, that's just a small part of what heaven is like, beauty is a part of every aspect of heaven. Such beauty, colors and music we have never seen, I get emotional thinking about what I saw when I think or write about it. The spirit has witnessed to me, several times, that this truly was Mary Magdalene which I saw. Even her robe was beatiful, which seemed to have the colors purple, blue, gold and white. I only saw her from the shoulder up, and it was a quick image, and she was looking upward and slightly tuned away, so I could see both her profile and part of her face. The joy I felt exuding from her was something I wanted. It motivates me to also want to have that. We will all have perfect beautiful resurrected bodies someday, but the question is, will we all have a fullness of joy, or experience perfect happiness?.

Edit:

A perfect beautiful resurrected body is a free gift to all mankind.

Having or experiencing a perfect fullness of joy is a gift that must be earned by repenting of sins and keeping the commandments of God.

 

[Sasa]

That sounds like a wonderful experience FFH. You're fortunate to have had it for what it brought you.