I haven't actually read this so I don't know what to expect but the price is quite good:
Krishna.com Store Mahabharata: The Greatest Spiritual Epic of All Time
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Another Bhagvad Gita Question
- Thread starter Charzhino
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I haven't actually read this so I don't know what to expect but the price is quite good:
Krishna.com Store Mahabharata: The Greatest Spiritual Epic of All Time
Thanks, but I really can't afford anything ATM.
Besides, that's kinda what I meant by paraphrasing. I really much prefer the original scripture.
I know, I'm Scripturally picky. lol
Do you realise how long the original is?
I'd estimate it'd take me about a year to finish.
I tried looking up the television show to get an idea for the story in an entertaining way (I didn't really care for William Buck's version), but in the only subbed version that I could find, the subtitles were out-of-sync, and I doubt they were wholly accurate.
I'd estimate it'd take me about a year to finish.
I tried looking up the television show to get an idea for the story in an entertaining way (I didn't really care for William Buck's version), but in the only subbed version that I could find, the subtitles were out-of-sync, and I doubt they were wholly accurate.
Haha, a year sounds about right.
Honestly I also would love to have the original Mahabharata. But I don't see that happening any time soon and I have taken great enjoyment from reading summarised versions. Even when compressed into a single volume the story is amazing and captivating (and worth it!).
I personally like the Ramayana better.
But, then again, I prefer classic adventure stories to war stories. I mean, I actually can enjoy (and follow) the anime even when watching it in Hindi.
I personally like the Ramayana better.
The Mahbharata is not a war story though. The war happens at the end of the epic, quite like in the Ramayana. I do love the Ramayana too though!
I thought the war took place in the middle of the epic. (Then again, maybe the condensed versions push it back to help with that LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG denouement that, according to the chapters of the original, takes up about a third of the epic, making the Lord of the Rings jealous.)
You could be right, I have only read condensed versions..
What were some of your favorites?
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Charzhimo,
Personal understanding:
To start with let us understand what *LIBERATION* means.
Liberation is when the mind is free of all *thoughts* and material gain is also a thought.
Culture of thoughts are easy and so easily attainable.
The path to no-thought* [liberation] also involves *thoughts* but not by activating more of them but by dropping them.
Rest are labels like Krishna , gods etc.
Love & rgds
Personal understanding:
To start with let us understand what *LIBERATION* means.
Liberation is when the mind is free of all *thoughts* and material gain is also a thought.
Culture of thoughts are easy and so easily attainable.
The path to no-thought* [liberation] also involves *thoughts* but not by activating more of them but by dropping them.
Rest are labels like Krishna , gods etc.
Love & rgds
Friend Zenzero,
Different sects of Sanatan Dharma see liberation differently. But, is there a Scriptural referrence where liberation is DEFINED as "no thought". Controlling mind is essential step to liberation per all Scriptures of Sanatana Dharma, but no where it is said in itself to be Moksha. In fact, none of the Sages who are supposed to have been enlightened- ancient and relatively modern ones- no one says Krishna was a "just an enlightened human" or a "label".
My opinion- if asked to choose between "no thought" and "only Krishna thought"; I would choose the latter without any reservation or regrets whatsoever.
My point is , in Sanatana Dharma, there is a Sanatana Ishwara/Parmatma/Brahman. AND "no thought" is neither of the above- it is just a Jivan Mukti. True liberation is realizing this Ishwara tattva and not just Jivan Mukti.
Regards,
Regards,
Friend Wannabe Yogi,
Thanks for the frubals first. I agree with the above whole heartedly except the sentence with "mythic way" in it. Right here in this KaliYuga there are examples of Saints or Yogis who have the "Ashta Siddhis". They see the past, present and future in a very clear way; just as we see the present.
My point is, Veda Vyasa narrated the same facts- the same words that Lord Krishna told Arjuna in the Kurukshetra- now known as Bhagvad Gita as he saw through the events of all the three Kaals.
The reasons I have the highest regards for Veda Vyasa are : (1) He is considered as an Avatar (2) He single handedly composed/compiled most of the basis of Sanatana Dharma and (3) All other Acharyas- Shri Adi Shankara, Shri Ramanuja, Shri Vallabhacharya and others have commentaries on the Shashtras of Shri Vyasa and not their own Shashtras. Their commentaries, if they are in contradiction to Shri Veda Vyasa, would have no merit on their own. Whereas Shri Vyasa's Scriptures stand on their own merit.
Even science fiction talks of time travel; consider this as time travel by Shri Veda Vyasa in a Yogic Way....... lol.
Regards,
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zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend satsangi,
When did Sanatn dharma stop growing?
where does it state that it cannot be developed futher?
The word Satan means eternal
and dharma is law
In that sense every individual living his life is following a dharma which is sanatan.
So, let the mind transcend what is limited to scriptures written by other humans and stand under the limitless open sky of that which is eternal and follows its own law!
Kindly read and understand the post in that context.
Love & rgds
When did Sanatn dharma stop growing?
where does it state that it cannot be developed futher?
The word Satan means eternal
and dharma is law
In that sense every individual living his life is following a dharma which is sanatan.
So, let the mind transcend what is limited to scriptures written by other humans and stand under the limitless open sky of that which is eternal and follows its own law!
Kindly read and understand the post in that context.
Love & rgds
My Dearest friend Zenzero........
HOW CAN U "DEVELOP" THE ULTIMATE TRUTH? Sanatana Dharma IS the Ultimate Truth. There is nothing under the sky or above it which is not in the Scriptures. There is already a stage beyond the "no thought" stage in the Scriptures. The Scriptures, although given by Rishis (which u could say were humans, but I do not), are the words of the Ultimate - they are not their own "thoughts."
The Scriptures, I believe, are transcended and/or rather brought to life by either a Pragat God realized Saint or the Pragat Avatar of God; but none other than these two.
My most sincere regards,
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zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Satsangi,
Sanatan dharma were only developed by meditators who were human not not by someone who came down from the heavens [imaginary] as True heaven is a mind which is HERE-NOW and the basis of this development is that there are no restrictions to understand TRUTH, as Truth which is UNIVERSAL and can be interpreted by *n* number of ways which gets reflected in a meditator's mind.
What is stated are such reflections!
Love & rgds
Sanatan dharma were only developed by meditators who were human not not by someone who came down from the heavens [imaginary] as True heaven is a mind which is HERE-NOW and the basis of this development is that there are no restrictions to understand TRUTH, as Truth which is UNIVERSAL and can be interpreted by *n* number of ways which gets reflected in a meditator's mind.
What is stated are such reflections!
Love & rgds
Friend Zenzero,
Although flesh and blood, there is a great difference between these Rishis and humans- the humans are bonded Jeevas; Rishis are not. Mind only reflects illusions; Scriptures are not restrictions- they are a guide, just like a Guru.
Regards,
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Satsangi,
one having passed through many lives and gurus are now guided by the guru of gurus which is existence from where each form comes and goes back to.
Kindly show me a rishi who is not human and if there is something concrete which is not imaginary, do discuss as scriptures are written by humans who became mediums and they too reflected truth.
Kindly avoid holding/hanging on to dead words and see with your own eyes which are not borrowed from scriptures and unknown rishis.
Love & rgds
one having passed through many lives and gurus are now guided by the guru of gurus which is existence from where each form comes and goes back to.
Kindly show me a rishi who is not human and if there is something concrete which is not imaginary, do discuss as scriptures are written by humans who became mediums and they too reflected truth.
Kindly avoid holding/hanging on to dead words and see with your own eyes which are not borrowed from scriptures and unknown rishis.
Love & rgds
Friend Zenzero,
What is imaginary for u may be very concrete for many........ You may see the Avatar or Rishi as humans ...........many don't. The words which may seem dead to you can be very much lively for many...... I would rather try and see through their eyes as my eyes are not good enough....... There are many unknown to you or me who are very well known to many others........
Regards,
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zenzero
Its only a Label
Friends,
There is a clear understanding here that this temporary form that contains the individual consciousness is a part of that WHOLE or universal consciousness and being in direct communication dependence on scriptures [which are realization of others] or other mediums is only a matter of choice.
Accepting / not accepting of the understanding by other forms [some of which are also friends] are their choice and karma.
Best Wishes!
Love & rgds
There is a clear understanding here that this temporary form that contains the individual consciousness is a part of that WHOLE or universal consciousness and being in direct communication dependence on scriptures [which are realization of others] or other mediums is only a matter of choice.
Accepting / not accepting of the understanding by other forms [some of which are also friends] are their choice and karma.
Best Wishes!
Love & rgds