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Another irrefutable proof that God created all things using mathematical induction. And a proof that The Bible is the word of God.

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Sorry, you don't get to do that. In fact by doing so you admit that the Bible is not scientific.

As for refuting your claim I already did so. It is not supported by evidence when it needs to be. That is a logical refutation. You failed in the burden of proof.
No refutation from you.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Romans 1:19-22 is from the word of God. And it is also a great prediction from the word of God made about 2000 years ago with exact timing and exact details. Thus you are a fulfillment of prophecy and proof that the Bible is true.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, - Romans 1:18-22
You do not have the word of God. You have the word of mankind. It is mankind who told you it comes from God.

First, God is at a Higher Level. Wrath is not a Higher Level. Do you really expect an intelligent person to believe that a Being capable of creating universes has a tantrum resulting in wrath over the choices of anyone?? What would a True Intelligent God really do? How about Fixing the problem through the education of His children? Look around you. Isn't that what is actually happening??

What would mankind do? Mankind attempts to blame, coerce, intimidate, threaten, condemn, manipulate. rule, and control. When this does not work, mankind attempts to destroy that which is not easily fixed. In this case, mankind makes God in their image creating Hell, a fiery pit without the possibility for redemption. Does this sound like High Intelligence of a Being capable of creating universes? It sounds like a Monster to me.

I think you accept far too much and question very little. On the other hand, I think you have hit a fork in the road where one road is much Higher Intelligence. As one looks at this world and sees God in it. one can see the actions of God. When one understands the actions of God, one will Understand God. Unlike holy books, God's actions can not be altered by mankind.

You will find no greater truth that what stares us all in the face. How long did mankind watch birds fly before they figured out how? The knowledge was there all the time. God hides nothing. Like the flying birds, the Real knowledge of God waits to be Discovered. Can you see??

Finally, when you value the petty things mankind holds so dear, what are you teaching the children? It certainly is not goodness. It certainly isn't a Higher Level.

That's what I see, It's very clear!!
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
I already did that. You did not understand it.


Tell me, in your own words tell us what a "premise" is. This is a reasonable request since you did not understand the refutation given to you.
Here we go again, always trying to play games.

The Big Bang was always stupid, it violated all laws of nature and sanity itself.
Abiogenesis is impossible and stupid.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Here we go again, always trying to play games.

The Big Bang was always stupid, it violated all laws of nature and sanity itself.
Abiogenesis is impossible and stupid.
No, I am being honest and consistent. And you do not appear to understand the laws of nature very well. I am very sure that you do not understand that in the universe there is no such thing as simultaneity. Things do not and cannot happen at the same time due to the fact that there are four spatial dimensions,, the fourth being spacetime. But I am far off topic.

If you make a claim you need to be able to support it in a logically consistent manner. That is why I asked you to define "premise" in your own words. You do not seem to understand the term because my refutation was based upon you using a false premise.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No, I am being honest and consistent. And you do not appear to understand the laws of nature very well. I am very sure that you do not understand that in the universe there is no such thing as simultaneity. Things do not and cannot happen at the same time due to the fact that there are four spatial dimensions,, the fourth being spacetime. But I am far off topic.

If you make a claim you need to be able to support it in a logically consistent manner. That is why I asked you to define "premise" in your own words. You do not seem to understand the term because my refutation was based upon you using a false premise.
Post #1 of this thread. End proof.

The Big Bang is dead and ImpossibleASaurus never existed. It was only conjured up by Satan, the father of lies.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Post #1 of this thread. End proof.

The Big Bang is dead and ImpossibleASaurus never existed. It was only conjured up by Satan, the father of lies.
Nope, sorry, referring back to old lost arguments of yours is just you admitting that you are wrong again.

Do your homework.

Of course your strawman never existed. So what? (I love arguments sooooooo weak that they can be refuted with a "So what?")

And once again, define what a premise is.

Right now it only looks as if you are parroting logical arguments that you have seen without understanding the process.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Nope, sorry, referring back to old lost arguments of yours is just you admitting that you are wrong again.

Do your homework.

Of course your strawman never existed. So what? (I love arguments sooooooo weak that they can be refuted with a "So what?")

And once again, define what a premise is.

Right now it only looks as if you are parroting logical arguments that you have seen without understanding the process.
post #1 of this thread.
End proof. QED.

2 irrefutable proofs.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
End Proof. QED.
2x
Okay. So you can only repeatedly admit that you are wrong and attempt to echo the arguments of others.

I will take a little break from you so you can take some time to think of a response. I supported my claim. I explained to you how you relied upon a false premise. I asked you to define "premise" in your own words. Heck you can copy down the answer from another website. I do not care. If you get the idea of a Premise right then you should be able to see your error.

So I will see you in 2 hours. There is no need to rush to an answer. I may respond to others, but I will give you time to come up with a good answer.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Okay. So you can only repeatedly admit that you are wrong and attempt to echo the arguments of others.

I will take a little break from you so you can take some time to think of a response. I supported my claim. I explained to you how you relied upon a false premise. I asked you to define "premise" in your own words. Heck you can copy down the answer from another website. I do not care. If you get the idea of a Premise right then you should be able to see your error.

So I will see you in 2 hours. There is no need to rush to an answer. I may respond to others, but I will give you time to come up with a good answer.
Refute if you can. Obviously you cannot.
One proof used mathematical induction.
The other used the law of non contradiction.
 

McBell

Unbound
Post #1 of this thread. End proof.
You do realize your choir has done bailed on you, right?
So your bold empty claims of "proof" do nothing but reveal your willful ignorance of the topics, right?

The Big Bang is dead and ImpossibleASaurus never existed. It was only conjured up by Satan, the father of lies.
Thus far you have been the only one praising Satan for their alleged accomplishments.
Wonder why that is?
 
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