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Another irrefutable proof that God created all things using mathematical induction. And a proof that The Bible is the word of God.

It Aint Necessarily So

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What was the first living creature? What features did it have? Be very specific. If you have no answers, then how do you know that it was even possible?
I've already answered that for you. Perhaps you should have paid attention then. As I prophesied, however, you are continuing with your creationist game.
Nonsense answer from you proves that evolution is false. No one can defend it.
From whom? Creationists? They aren't part of the scientific debate, and their internal grievances are for them to deal with. Nobody's listening to them - not the scientific community, and not the scientifically literate lay people, some of whom humor them in venues like this one but rest assured that the scientific community isn't hearing it and is uninterested in any lay opinions even if they happen to agree with the experts.
Bingo, fulfilling prophecies from the Bible as God forces you to do. Thanks for proving the Bible true.
You fulfill my prophecy about you every time you post. Does that make me a god, too? For it is written in at least two earlier posts (feel free to call them scriptures since they are written) that you will continue to perseverate, sea-lion, and Gish gallop, and making effete, unsubstantiated claims.
Bad analogy. That proves that you can not defend the indefensible theory of evolution and billions of years
Classic analogy. You didn't understand it.
Where did all the orderly finely tuned laws of nature come from?
Are you sure that you want to go there? From

Yahweh: "They're going to ask, "Who created those finely tuned laws of nature?" The design of the universe itself will be the evidence of my existence and nature."

Yahweh's mentor: "Will it? The question of fine tuning will be inevitable indeed, because each and every unknown that was attributed to your doing will eventually be discovered to be nature's doing. The question itself, however, will lead to an infinite regress. Why would you need to finely tune the laws of nature unless you are being restricted by some other laws beyond your control? And who created the laws that govern the necessity for god to fine tune the laws of nature? If these laws dictated the nature of your creation, then how could you be called omnipotent? How could you be called god if your creation could only be created in one kind of way? If the laws of nature could only be one kind of way to permit life, and the universe runs all on its own, then what does it need with a god? Because if that's the case, you didn't actually design anything. You merely followed a set of instructions. Whose instructions? The presence of an all-powerful god doesn't explain anything at all. In your current state, I'm afraid you are ridiculously superfluous."
 

SavedByTheLord

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Document how any brain evolved. Give times and descriptions of all proteins and genes involved and of course the actual species involved. Also document how this was possible given sexual reproduction.
Also include all calculations and give the location of where the fossil evidences were found and all dating information with properly documented error ranges.
Evolutionists have made the claim and so you must prove it.
I will want the same for 100s of other irreducibly complex organs and functions.

The eyes, ears, smelling, taste, touch, heart, brain, feathers, hands, feet, legs, arms, toes, fingers.

The kidney, liver, spleen, gallbladder, pancreas, pituitary gland, tongue, speech, all 206 bones and how they work, and all the over 600 muscles,

The giraffe’s neck and valves that control its blood flow, and especially the woodpecker’s tongue.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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Document how any brain evolv
My prophecy has been fulfilled again. I predicted that you would continue this dance, and of course, I was correct. I must be a god to do that, right?

My answer to you is, "No, I won't." I'm not here to teach you any more and you're not here to learn. We both have other purposes.

I tried to help you, but that was futile. You weren't interested. You repeatedly failed to engage. You don't read what is written to you. You just preach, and that's fine with me. I'm here to observe and learn about the faith-based thinker's mind and how it differs from mine. This is the lab section of humanist school, like a field trip to an aquarium to tap the glass and learn by observing.

So what is your motivation? What drives a person to behave like you have? I've given you my best estimate, but as usual, you were too busy with the creationist dance to take the time to read or respect anybody else's thoughts but your own. I'm sure that observing is not what motivates you to be here and to subject yourself to continual ridicule.

Nor is teaching your purpose. If it were, you would have given up long ago as I have given up trying to teach you and for the same reason - zero evidence of any progress. You "proven" nothing to anybody in the sense you claim you have, and certainly you would see that if you read what others write to you, but you don't.

If you are not masochistic or deliberately inviting the verbal abuse in some religious purification ritual, then you must be performing for an imagined audience of one, hoping that your martyrdom will impress the big man and earn you a piece of pie.

Prophecy (so let it be written, so let it be done): There will be no meaningful response forthcoming from you - no evidence at all that you read and understood these words, just more of this same behavior.
 

SavedByTheLord

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My prophecy has been fulfilled again. I predicted that you would continue this dance, and of course, I was correct. I must be a god to do that, right?

My answer to you is, "No, I won't." I'm not here to teach you any more and you're not here to learn. We both have other purposes.

I tried to help you, but that was futile. You weren't interested. You repeatedly failed to engage. You don't read what is written to you. You just preach, and that's fine with me. I'm here to observe and learn about the faith-based thinker's mind and how it differs from mine. This is the lab section of humanist school, like a field trip to an aquarium to tap the glass and learn by observing.

So what is your motivation? What drives a person to behave like you have? I've given you my best estimate, but as usual, you were too busy with the creationist dance to take the time to read or respect anybody else's thoughts but your own. I'm sure that observing is not what motivates you to be here and to subject yourself to continual ridicule.

Nor is teaching your purpose. If it were, you would have given up long ago as I have given up trying to teach you and for the same reason - zero evidence of any progress. You "proven" nothing to anybody in the sense you claim you have, and certainly you would see that if you read what others write to you, but you don't.

If you are not masochistic or deliberately inviting the verbal abuse in some religious purification ritual, then you must be performing for an imagined audience of one, hoping that your martyrdom will impress the big man and earn you a piece of pie.

Prophecy (so let it be written, so let it be done): There will be no meaningful response forthcoming from you - no evidence at all that you read and understood these words, just more of this same behavior.
And your prophecy means nothing. bad analogy.
Now the Bible has predicted your reply and with exact timing. That was written about 3500 to 2000 years ago.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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And your prophecy means nothing. bad analogy. Now the Bible has predicted your reply and with exact timing. That was written about 3500 to 2000 years ago.
Another IANS prophecy fulfilled (written about 2000-3500 seconds ago): "Prophecy (so let it be written, so let it be done): There will be no meaningful response forthcoming from you - no evidence at all that you read and understood these words, just more of this same behavior." And it has come to pass.

How impressive was that? You don't need to start worshiping me for being so accurate so often in my prophesying. I really don't need that. And I'm sorry that I can't return the favor to whoever wrote the biblical "prophecies" that you find impressive, but I don't, and besides, as I explained, humanists don't worship.
 

SavedByTheLord

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Another IANS prophecy fulfilled (written about 2000-3500 seconds ago): "Prophecy (so let it be written, so let it be done): There will be no meaningful response forthcoming from you - no evidence at all that you read and understood these words, just more of this same behavior." And it has come to pass.

How impressive was that? You don't need to start worshiping me for being so accurate so often in my prophesying. I really don't need that. And I'm sorry that I can't return the favor to whoever wrote the biblical "prophecies" that you find impressive, but I don't, and besides, as I explained, humanists don't worship.
Bad analogy means that you cannot defend evolution and billions of years.

Now the Bible has predicted your reply and with exact timing. That was written about 3500 to 2000 years ago.

What was the first living thing and what features did it have?
Where and when did it come into being?
 

SavedByTheLord

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Another IANS prophecy fulfilled (written about 2000-3500 seconds ago): "Prophecy (so let it be written, so let it be done): There will be no meaningful response forthcoming from you - no evidence at all that you read and understood these words, just more of this same behavior." And it has come to pass.

How impressive was that? You don't need to start worshiping me for being so accurate so often in my prophesying. I really don't need that. And I'm sorry that I can't return the favor to whoever wrote the biblical "prophecies" that you find impressive, but I don't, and besides, as I explained, humanists don't worship.
What was the first ling thing, where and when did come into being?
What caused the Big Bang and what existed 1 trillion years before it?
 

SavedByTheLord

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My prophecy has been fulfilled again. I predicted that you would continue this dance, and of course, I was correct. I must be a god to do that, right?

My answer to you is, "No, I won't." I'm not here to teach you any more and you're not here to learn. We both have other purposes.

I tried to help you, but that was futile. You weren't interested. You repeatedly failed to engage. You don't read what is written to you. You just preach, and that's fine with me. I'm here to observe and learn about the faith-based thinker's mind and how it differs from mine. This is the lab section of humanist school, like a field trip to an aquarium to tap the glass and learn by observing.

So what is your motivation? What drives a person to behave like you have? I've given you my best estimate, but as usual, you were too busy with the creationist dance to take the time to read or respect anybody else's thoughts but your own. I'm sure that observing is not what motivates you to be here and to subject yourself to continual ridicule.

Nor is teaching your purpose. If it were, you would have given up long ago as I have given up trying to teach you and for the same reason - zero evidence of any progress. You "proven" nothing to anybody in the sense you claim you have, and certainly you would see that if you read what others write to you, but you don't.

If you are not masochistic or deliberately inviting the verbal abuse in some religious purification ritual, then you must be performing for an imagined audience of one, hoping that your martyrdom will impress the big man and earn you a piece of pie.

Prophecy (so let it be written, so let it be done): There will be no meaningful response forthcoming from you - no evidence at all that you read and understood these words, just more of this same behavior.
You have probably fulfilled over a dozen Bible prophecies 1 million times
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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You have probably fulfilled over a dozen Bible prophecies 1 million times
Behold! So let it be written, so let it be done! You've fulfilled my prophecy dozens of times this week alone with your repetitive and unresponsive creationist apologetics (mostly sealioning, perseveration, and Gish galloping). I predicted that you would continue this dance, and of course, I was correct. You seem to have no say in it, and not much interest in the impression it makes.

Now comment about evolution and billions of years being ruled out by some nonsense and then ask where feathers come from again. Then do it again.
 

The Hammer

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Genesis 1 refutes evolution and I already proved the Bible is the word of God.

Genesis doesn't refute evolution. In fact it supports it.

"Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good."

This is one example that supports evolution. God didn't create plants, God commanded the land to create plants.
 

SavedByTheLord

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Genesis doesn't refute evolution. In fact it supports it.

"Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good."

This is one example that supports evolution. God didn't create plants, God commanded the land to create plants.
But that does not describe evolution at all.
 

The Hammer

Skald
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But that does not describe evolution at all.

Sure it does. I see it. It's as clear as day.

The land created plants. The mechanism behind the land making plants is evolution as described by science, and according to Genesis God commanded the Earth to do this as stated: ""Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation".... The land produced vegetation.. And God saw that it was good.""
 

SavedByTheLord

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Sure it does. I see it. It's as clear as day.

The land created plants. The mechanism behind the land making plants is evolution as described by science, and according to Genesis God commanded the Earth to do this as stated: ""Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation".... The land produced vegetation.. And God saw that it was good.""
The land created plants?????

What came first the chicken or the egg?
What came first the inside parts of the first living thing or its protective covering?
 

The Hammer

Skald
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The land created plants?????

What came first the chicken or the egg?
What came first the inside parts of the first living thing or its protective covering?

Both occur simultaneously. And don't ask me, it's written in your Bible genesis story that the land created plants.
 
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