Another irrefutable proof that God created all things using mathematical induction. And a proof that The Bible is the word of God.

[SalixIncendium]

I'm just going to leave this here:

The earliest life forms we know of were microscopic organisms (microbes) that left signals of their presence in rocks about 3.7 billion years old. The signals consisted of a type of carbon molecule that is produced by living things.​

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Early Life on Earth – Animal Origins

Learn what fossil evidence reveals about the origins of the first life on Earth, from bacteria to animals, including the phyla we know today.

naturalhistory.si.edu

 

[SavedByTheLord]

I'm just going to leave this here:

The earliest life forms we know of were microscopic organisms (microbes) that left signals of their presence in rocks about 3.7 billion years old. The signals consisted of a type of carbon molecule that is produced by living things.​

​

Early Life on Earth – Animal Origins

Learn what fossil evidence reveals about the origins of the first life on Earth, from bacteria to animals, including the phyla we know today.

naturalhistory.si.edu

Left their signals? Sounds like a stretch.

I already showed it is impossible and what makes you believe that the Earth is billions of years old?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Left their signals? Sounds like a stretch.

I already showed it is impossible and what makes you believe that the Earth is billions of years old?

After reading some of your rhetoric and assessing your "debate" tactics and "proofs," I have no inclination to enter a debate with you. You asked a question, I provided an answer. Learn from it or don't. I'm good either way.

 

[joelr]

The following proves that God Almighty is the Creator of all things.

Suppose that you had never seen a modern cell phone or knew of its existence.All people have done so far is try to understand how living things work and even now are just scratching the surface. Thus, an examination of all living things and how they interact with the rest of the creation proves the existence of Almighty God the Creator of all things. And this surety is way beyond than even the civilization example. So, here is yet another irrefutable proof that God Almighty, the Creator exists and the He created all things.

Humans create cell phones.
Humans came about from evolution. Life came about from basic chemicals, which are all over the universe, proteins, sugars, fatty acids, nucleobases, and our understanding of how self replicating chemicals began to happen is increasing every year.

-When Yahweh announced to Abraham and Jacob "I am El Shadday". El Shadday is traslated as something like 'El of the Wilderness', which was a local manifestation of the great high god El in the area. El is believed to have been the original high God of Israel who gave Yahweh Israel.
It's in the name Israel (yisra-el)
It is revealed in the divine name of a temple Jacob is said to have built at the ancient city of Shechem: "He erected an altar there and called it El, god of Israel" Genesis 33 . 20.
There is also an older variant of Deut where El gives Isreal to Yahweh

Thus, the enormity of the following less winded statement as found in the Bible should be clearly apparent to all the world.

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Rom 1:19-20

Section 11: Allah the Creator and Knower of everything​

Surah Al-‘An’am​

101. "(He is the) Divisor of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child while there is for Him no consort, and He created everything, and He is All-Knowing of all things?"

102. "That is Allah your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of everything, Therefore worship Him, for He is Guardian over all things."


Because the Quran says it is so , it should be clear to all the world. And everything other book that makes a claim from a revelation, should apparently be taken as true, by the entire world.

Since this wisdom, written about 2000 years ago, comes from the word of God, it proves the Bible is the true word of God. There are many things which prove the Bible is the true word of God.

Can you name one thing?

Everything in the OT, especially the fist 5 books is an Israelite/Judahite version of older Mesopotamian mythology.
Those were written 2-3 thousand years ago.


209-218Your divinity shines in the pure heavens like Nanna or Utu. Your torch lights up the corners of heaven, turning darkness into light. ...... with fire. Your ...... refining ...... walks like Utu in front of you. No one can lay a hand on your precious divine powers; all your divine powers ....... You exercise full ladyship over heaven and earth; you hold everything in your hand. Mistress, you are magnificent, no one can walk before you. You dwell with great An in the holy resting-place. Which god is like you in gathering together ...... in heaven and earth? You are magnificent, your name is praised, you alone are magnificent!

132-154...... mercy and pity are yours, Inana. ...... are yours, Inana. To cause the ...... heart to tremble, ...... illnesses are yours, Inana. To have a wife, ......, to love ...... are yours, Inana. To rejoice, to control (?), ...... are yours, Inana. Neglect and care, raising and bowing down are yours, Inana. To build a house, to create a woman's chamber, to possess implements, to kiss a child's lips are yours, Inana. To run, to race, to desire and to succeed are yours, Inana. To interchange the brute and the strong and the weak and the powerless is yours, Inana. To interchange the heights and valleys and the ...... and the plains (?) is yours, Inana. To give the crown, the throne and the royal sceptre is yours, Inana.

Now the Bible predicted that knowledge shall be increased in the last days. But with all the great advances in biology, the passage in Romans 19-20 has not only withstood the scrutiny of science but has been immensely verified by it.

Wow, knowledge will be increased? What person could ever have guessed that? Luckily a God told us because we coouldn't see that knowledge was steadily increasing?

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. – Daniel 12:4

Thank you Daniel, Capt Obvious. Any other gems of wisdom? Wars will be fought? Lovers will lament?

This proof uses mathematical induction. Thus, the proof is irrefutable.
n = intelligently designed objects.
n=1 is just one cell phon, an intelligently designed object
n=k is many cell phones and all other intelligently designed objects.
n>0 -> C>=0 where C is the number of intelligent creators.

Yeah, this is more like structural induction or something but, great, you have shown that Apple, Android and other cell-phone companies exist.
We believe you, Apple has intelligent creators working for them all over.
In fact the Bible had intelligent creators of the literary kind, writing all kinds of symbolic fiction and re-working older mythology into a new myth, with updated values. Good stuff.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Humans create cell phones.
Humans came about from evolution. Life came about from basic chemicals, which are all over the universe, proteins, sugars, fatty acids, nucleobases, and our understanding of how self replicating chemicals began to happen is increasing every year.

-When Yahweh announced to Abraham and Jacob "I am El Shadday". El Shadday is traslated as something like 'El of the Wilderness', which was a local manifestation of the great high god El in the area. El is believed to have been the original high God of Israel who gave Yahweh Israel.
It's in the name Israel (yisra-el)
is revealed in the divine name of a temple Jacob is said to have built at the ancient city of Shschem: "He erected an altar thereand called it El, god of Israel" Genesis 33 . 20.
There is also an older variant of Deut where El gives Isreal to Yahweh

Section 11: Allah the Creator and Knower of everything​

Surah Al-‘An’am​

101. "(He is the) Divisor of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child while there is for Him no consort, and He created everything, and He is All-Knowing of all things?"

102. "That is Allah your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of everything, Therefore worship Him, for He is Guardian over all things."


Because the Quran says it is so , it should be clear to all the world. And everything other book that makes a claim from a revelation, should apparently be taken as true, by the entire world.




Can you name one thing?

Everything in the OT, especially the fist 5 books is an Israelite/Judahite version of older Mesopotamian mythology.
Those were written 2-3 thousand years ago.


209-218Your divinity shines in the pure heavens like Nanna or Utu. Your torch lights up the corners of heaven, turning darkness into light. ...... with fire. Your ...... refining ...... walks like Utu in front of you. No one can lay a hand on your precious divine powers; all your divine powers ....... You exercise full ladyship over heaven and earth; you hold everything in your hand. Mistress, you are magnificent, no one can walk before you. You dwell with great An in the holy resting-place. Which god is like you in gathering together ...... in heaven and earth? You are magnificent, your name is praised, you alone are magnificent!

132-154...... mercy and pity are yours, Inana. ...... are yours, Inana. To cause the ...... heart to tremble, ...... illnesses are yours, Inana. To have a wife, ......, to love ...... are yours, Inana. To rejoice, to control (?), ...... are yours, Inana. Neglect and care, raising and bowing down are yours, Inana. To build a house, to create a woman's chamber, to possess implements, to kiss a child's lips are yours, Inana. To run, to race, to desire and to succeed are yours, Inana. To interchange the brute and the strong and the weak and the powerless is yours, Inana. To interchange the heights and valleys and the ...... and the plains (?) is yours, Inana. To give the crown, the throne and the royal sceptre is yours, Inana.



Wow, knowledge will be increased? What person could ever have guessed that? Luckily a God told us because we coouldn't see that knowledge was steadily increasing?





Thank you Daniel, Capt Obvious. Any other gems of wisdom? Wars will be fought? Lovers will lament?






Yeah, this is more like structural induction or something but, great, you have shown that Apple, Android and other cell-phone companies exist.
We believe you, Apple has intelligent creators working for them all over.
In fact the Bible had intelligent creators of the literary kind, writing all kinds of symbolic fiction and re-working older mythology into a new myth, with updated values. Good stuff.

If you want to talk about Islam, you certainly can post a thread pro or con.
Maybe should be in comparative religion though.

 

[joelr]

The following proves that God Almighty is the Creator of all things.

Suppose that you had never seen a modern cell phone or knew of its existence.All people have done so far is try to understand how living things work and even now are just scratching the surface. Thus, an examination of all living things and how they interact with the rest of the creation proves the existence of Almighty God the Creator of all things. And this surety is way beyond than even the civilization example. So, here is yet another irrefutable proof that God Almighty, the Creator exists and the He created all things

Yes, no Israel historicity, however you missed a few things.



Humans create cell phones.
Humans came about from evolution. Life came about from basic chemicals, which are all over the universe, proteins, sugars, fatty acids, nucleobases, and our understanding of how self replicating chemicals began to happen is increasing every year.

Thus, the enormity of the following less winded statement as found in the Bible should be clearly apparent to all the world.

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Rom 1:19-20

Section 11: Allah the Creator and Knower of everything​

Surah Al-‘An’am​

101. "(He is the) Divisor of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child while there is for Him no consort, and He created everything, and He is All-Knowing of all things?"

102. "That is Allah your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of everything, Therefore worship Him, for He is Guardian over all things."


Because the Quran says it is so , it should be clear to all the world. And everything other book that makes a claim from a revelation, should apparently be taken as true, by the entire world. Do you have evidence that claims in a book are from a God.
Remember, vague prophecies are not convincing. Interpretations of Jewish messianic people that Christians later changed to Jesus are not proven prophecies that came true.
Jesus predicting the temple destruction is not a prophecy because you cannot show Mark was simply writiing after the temple destruction.

also Yahweh made many prophetic statements that did not come to pass, hundreds.

Since this wisdom, written about 2000 years ago, comes from the word of God, it proves the Bible is the true word of God. There are many things which prove the Bible is the true word of God.

Can you name one thing?

Now the Bible predicted that knowledge shall be increased in the last days. But with all the great advances in biology, the passage in Romans 19-20 has not only withstood the scrutiny of science but has been immensely verified by it.

Wow, knowledge will be increased? What person could ever have guessed that? Luckily a God told us because we coouldn't see that knowledge was steadily increasing?

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. – Daniel 12:4

Thank you Daniel, Capt Obvious. Any other gems of wisdom? Wars will be fought? Lovers will lament?

This proof uses mathematical induction. Thus, the proof is irrefutable.
n = intelligently designed objects.
n=1 is just one cell phon, an intelligently designed object
n=k is many cell phones and all other intelligently designed objects.
n>0 -> C>=0 where C is the number of intelligent creators.

Yeah, this is more like structural induction or something but, great, you have shown that Apple, Android and other cell-phone companies exist.
We believe you, Apple has intelligent creators working for them all over.
In fact the Bible had intelligent creators of the literary kind, writing all kinds of symbolic fiction and re-working older mythology into a new myth, with updated values. Good stuff.

It is irrefutable that there are intelligent people who create phones.

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[SavedByTheLord]

Yes, no Israel historicity, however you missed a few things.



Humans create cell phones.
Humans came about from evolution. Life came about from basic chemicals, which are all over the universe, proteins, sugars, fatty acids, nucleobases, and our understanding of how self replicating chemicals began to happen is increasing every year.

Section 11: Allah the Creator and Knower of everything​

Surah Al-‘An’am​

101. "(He is the) Divisor of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child while there is for Him no consort, and He created everything, and He is All-Knowing of all things?"

102. "That is Allah your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of everything, Therefore worship Him, for He is Guardian over all things."


Because the Quran says it is so , it should be clear to all the world. And everything other book that makes a claim from a revelation, should apparently be taken as true, by the entire world. Do you have evidence that claims in a book are from a God.
Remember, vague prophecies are not convincing. Interpretations of Jewish messianic people that Christians later changed to Jesus are not proven prophecies that came true.
Jesus predicting the temple destruction is not a prophecy because you cannot show Mark was simply writiing after the temple destruction.

also Yahweh made many prophetic statements that did not come to pass, hundreds.



Can you name one thing?




Wow, knowledge will be increased? What person could ever have guessed that? Luckily a God told us because we coouldn't see that knowledge was steadily increasing?



Thank you Daniel, Capt Obvious. Any other gems of wisdom? Wars will be fought? Lovers will lament?




Yeah, this is more like structural induction or something but, great, you have shown that Apple, Android and other cell-phone companies exist.
We believe you, Apple has intelligent creators working for them all over.
In fact the Bible had intelligent creators of the literary kind, writing all kinds of symbolic fiction and re-working older mythology into a new myth, with updated values. Good stuff.

It is irrefutable that there are intelligent people who create phones.

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You wrote that "humans came about by evolution".
That is actually impossible without God.
So evolution is false.
Also that completely refutes the dating of the rock layers since there is no evolving of living things in the fossil record because evolution is false.

That leads to the conclusion that God created all things thousands of years ago, and not billions of years ago.

Do you agree with what I wrote? And if not, what is it that you do not agree with?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

an examination of all living things and how they interact with the rest of the creation proves the existence of Almighty God the Creator of all things

Apparently not, since much of the educated world remains unconvinced. I'll tell you (again) what I tell anybody who claims that they have proved something (To whom? Yourself?). It can't called a proof if it doesn't convince, just as a joke can't be called funny if nobody but the joke teller says it is.

This proof uses mathematical induction. Thus, the proof is irrefutable.
n = intelligently designed objects.
n=1 is just one cell phon, an intelligently designed object
n=k is many cell phones and all other intelligently designed objects.
n>0 -> C>=0 where C is the number of intelligent creators.

What do you think that means? For starters, the middle two lines add nothing. The first line isn't a premise, but a definition. What I see there is that if there is at least one intelligently designed object (a positive n) that there is at least one intelligent creator (a positive C).

The fourth line contains another definition and a tautology. If there is an intelligently designed product, there is an intelligent designer.

Here's your "argument" in a nutshell:

n>0 -> C>=0 where n is the number of intelligently designed objects and C is the number of intelligent creators.

And gods don't appear anywhere in this "proof of God"

who made the intelligent creators of civilization?

What, not who. As best we can tell, nature did absent intelligent oversight.

you have never shown that evolution of chemicals to living things to people has ever happened or is happening

It happens in wombs every day, where the nutrients consumed by the mother are assembled into a baby. And no intelligent oversight is required there, either. The pieces "know" how to organize themselves into a baby passively and blindly.

you just fulfilled prophecy again.

So did you. After three or four of them, I prophesied in a previous thread that you would be starting more such threads trying to prove the existence of your god using specious argumentation. Prophecies like yours and mine aren't impressive.

Hitler was an evolutionist and a socialist like Marx

Hitler was a Christian. That's where he learned antisemitism. That's where he learned about righteous genocide.

Evolution is not science at all, just a false religion

You've got that backward. Religion can contain false science. Science is a humanistic pursuit. No gods or religions play any part.

I know quite a bit

Most of your posting is questions you can't answer, and the rest pseudoscience and specious argumentation.

Evolution and billions of years have been refuted over and over.

The objections of the faithful have no standing in science.

How could feathers or the eye ever evolved?

Natural selection applied to genetic variation over geological time. No gods needed.

evolution is not rational belief.

Evolutionary science is the product of valid reason applied to evidence, which makes it rational by definition. Creationism is irrational, that is, cannot be supported using reason. There is no sound argument ending, "therefore God."

evolution and billions of years are a fraud and many have been indoctrinated by false education.

Indoctrination is shaping uncritical minds through repetition, as in "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Education is what goes on in academic institutions, where critical thinking is taught by example, and why creationism, which can only be believed by faith and taught using indoctrination methods, isn't.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Apparently not, since much of the educated world remains unconvinced. I'll tell you (again) what I tell anybody who claims that they have proved something? To whom? Yourself? It can't called a proof if it doesn't convince, just as a joke can't be called funny if nobody but the joke teller says it is.

What do you think that means? For starters, the middle two lines add nothing. The first line isn't a premise, but a definition. What I see there is that if there an intelligently designed object (a positive n) that there is at least one intelligent creator (a positive C). The fourth line contains another definition and a tautology. If there is an intelligently designed product, there is an intelligent designer.

Here's your "argument:"

n>0 -> C>=0 where n is the number of intelligently designed objects and C is the number of intelligent creators.

And gods don't appear anywhere in this "proof of God"

What, not who. As best we can tell, nature did absent intelligent oversight.

It happens in wombs every day, where the nutrients consumed by the mother are assembled into a baby. And no intelligent oversight is required there, either. The pieces "know" how to organize themselves into a baby passively and blindly.

So did you. After three or four of them, I prophesied in a previous thread that you would be starting more such threads trying to prove the existence of your god using specious argumentation. Prophecies like yours and mine aren't impressive.

Hitler was a Christian. That's where he learned antisemitism. That's where he learned about righteous genocide.

You've got that backward. Religion can contain false science. Science is a humanistic pursuit. No gods or religions play any part.

Most of your posting is questions you can't answer, and the rest pseudoscience and specious argumentation.

The objections of the faithful have no standing in science.

Natural selection applied to genetic variation over geological time. No gods needed.

Evolutionary science is the product of valid reason applied to evidence, which makes it rational by definition. Creationism is irrational, that is, cannot be supported using reason. There is no sound argument ending, "therefore God."

Indoctrination is shaping uncritical minds through repetition, as in "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Education is what goes on in academic institutions, where critical thinking is taught by example, and why creationism, which can only be believed by faith and taught using indoctrination methods, isn't.

I made a mistake and the one line should read, n>0 -> C>0, where C is an integer. The extra line is there because the original is written in easy to understand language.

The theory of evolution is not science or reason it is an anti-science and insanity.

So the proof using MI still stands and does the proof using the law of contradiction.

 

[joelr]

You wrote that "humans came about by evolution".
That is actually impossible without God.
So evolution is false.

Uh, I think you skipped a step. First, demonstrate God. Next show why nature cannot produce evolution (even though it did), and it needs a God.

Also that completely refutes the dating of the rock layers since there is no evolving of living things in the fossil record because evolution is false.

You haven't shown evolution is false. What does rock layers have to do with this? You're not even trying, just making weird claims without evidence.
I mean:
The Quran is true.
The Quran says Christians and Jews lie and are false
Christians and Jews are telling lies and scripture is false.


See, anyone can do it. Except I've proven NOTHING. Except that I don't care about actual arguments, I just want to declare what is or isn't true.

That leads to the conclusion that God created all things thousands of years ago, and not billions of years ago.

Nope, we haven't gotten there yet. I can make one for Sant Clause, Zeus and Spiderman. Heck anything can be true.

1)Evolution is impossible without Thor.
2) Evolution happened
3)THOR IS TRUE!!!!!


WOW, THOR IS REAL, I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!?!?!?!?!

Do you agree with what I wrote? And if not, what is it that you do not agree with?

Are you serious with this? You need to ask? The entire scientific field of biology, evolution, organic chemistry, critical-biblical historicity, all wrong because a fundamentalist said "God has to be there to do everything".?????

Evolution is a fact. Genes that are heritable cannot help but do natural selection.
Abiogenesis is still being understood but many many holes have been filled. We see all the correct compounds in nature and in space. We see self-replicating chemicals that were likely involved in life, self-replicating in thel ab.

The gap is closing. A supernatural explanation isn't needed, no supernatural anything has ever been demonstrated.

Do you have one single argument that isn't completely absurd, illogical and almost troll-level suspicious?

 

[F1fan]

You wrote that "humans came about by evolution".

That is what the evidence reveals. You reject due to religious bias, not due to reason and a better understanding of reality.

That is actually impossible without God.

There are no gods known to exist. You haven't shown the forum that any god exists, nor that it is necessary for things existing. You have a lot of work to do. Your assumptions are irrelevant here.

So evolution is false.

Not a valid conclusion as you are making assumptions.

Also that completely refutes the dating of the rock layers since there is no evolving of living things in the fossil record because evolution is false.

No, you are making a judgment based on assumption that your interpretation of the Bible is correct. Evidence shows us you are incorrect.

That leads to the conclusion that God created all things thousands of years ago, and not billions of years ago.

This is your assumption, not a reasoned conclusion.

Do you agree with what I wrote? And if not, what is it that you do not agree with?

Your personal beliefs are not fact-based, so rational people can't agree with you. You don't seem to understand what reasoning is, and that arguments rely on facts to convince others. All you offer us is your irrational belief, so we reject it.

If you don't get science right you've lost the debate.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Uh, I think you skipped a step. First, demonstrate God. Next show why nature cannot produce evolution (even though it did), and it needs a God.








You haven't shown evolution is false. What does rock layers have to do with this? You're not even trying, just making weird claims without evidence.
I mean:
The Quran is true.
The Quran says Christians and Jews lie and are false
Christians and Jews are telling lies and scripture is false.


See, anyone can do it. Except I've proven NOTHING. Except that I don't care about actual arguments, I just want to declare what is or isn't true.








Nope, we haven't gotten there yet. I can make one for Sant Clause, Zeus and Spiderman. Heck anything can be true.

1)Evolution is impossible without Thor.
2) Evolution happened
3)THOR IS TRUE!!!!!


WOW, THOR IS REAL, I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!?!?!?!?!





Are you serious with this? You need to ask? The entire scientific field of biology, evolution, organic chemistry, critical-biblical historicity, all wrong because a fundamentalist said "God has to be there to do everything".?????

Evolution is a fact. Genes that are heritable cannot help but do natural selection.
Abiogenesis is still being understood but many many holes have been filled. We see all the correct compounds in nature and in space. We see self-replicating chemicals that were likely involved in life, self-replicating in thel ab.

The gap is closing. A supernatural explanation isn't needed, no supernatural anything has ever been demonstrated.

Do you have one single argument that isn't completely absurd, illogical and almost troll-level suspicious?

Why don't you post a thread about the Koran, pro or con?
Maybe it should go in comparative religion though.

 

[joelr]

Why don't you post a thread about the Koran, pro or con?
Maybe it should go in comparative religion though.

Well, since you didn't understand the example, I was showing that just because one makes a claim using a holy book, doesn't make it true.
Now does it? Or is all that true just because someone believes it? Let me help you........NO.

So can you answer the actual questions asked? It was you who asked - "

Do you agree with what I wrote? And if not, what is it that you do not agree with?"

You wrote that "humans came about by evolution".
That is actually impossible without God.
So evolution is false.

Uh, I think you skipped a step. First, demonstrate God. Next show why nature cannot produce evolution (even though it did), and it needs a God.

Also that completely refutes the dating of the rock layers since there is no evolving of living things in the fossil record because evolution is false.

You haven't shown evolution is false. What does rock layers have to do with this? You're not even trying, just making weird claims without evidence.

That leads to the conclusion that God created all things thousands of years ago, and not billions of years ago.

Nope, we haven't gotten there yet. I can make one for Sant Clause, Zeus and Spiderman. Heck anything can be true.

1)Evolution is impossible without Thor.
2) Evolution happened
3)THOR IS TRUE!!!!!


This isn't about Thor, it's about making a claim without evidence.

Do you agree with what I wrote? And if not, what is it that you do not agree with?

Are you serious with this? You need to ask? The entire scientific field of biology, evolution, organic chemistry, critical-biblical historicity, all wrong because a fundamentalist said "God has to be there to do everything".?????

Evolution is a fact. Genes that are heritable cannot help but do natural selection.
Abiogenesis is still being understood but many many holes have been filled. We see all the correct compounds in nature and in space. We see self-replicating chemicals that were likely involved in life, self-replicating in thel ab.

The gap is closing. A supernatural explanation isn't needed, no supernatural anything has ever been demonstrated.

Do you have one single argument that isn't completely absurd, illogical and almost troll-level suspicious?

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[Subduction Zone]

You are Wrong again.

When did inflation start? And what caused it? Of course it violates cause and effect.

When did inflation end? And what caused it? Of course that too violates cause and effect.

Why do you keep using arguments that refute your own God?

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Why do you keep using arguments that refute your own God?

What a false accusation.
What was the first living creature? What features did it have?
Be very very very specific.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Why do you keep using arguments that refute your own God?

What was the first living creature? What features did it have?
Be very specific.
If you have no answers, then how do you know that it was even possible?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What was the first living creature? What features did it have?
Be very specific.
If you have no answers, then how do you know that it was even possible?

What brand are God's underwear? Jockey shorts or tighty whities? And we need to know his waist size too.

Remember, if you can't answer those questions your God will disappear in a poof of bad logic.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

What brand are God's underwear? Jockey shorts or tighty whities? And we need to know his waist size too.

Remember, if you can't answer those questions your God will disappear in a poof of bad logic.

Nonsense answer from you proves that evolution is false.
No one can defend it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nonsense answer from you proves that evolution is false.
No one can defend it.

Ironically then your nonsense questions disproves God too.

You lose either way.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Ironically then your nonsense questions disproves God too.

You lose either way.

Bingo, fulfilling prophecies from the Bible as God forces you to do.
Thanks for proving the Bible true.