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Another irrefutable proof that God created all things using mathematical induction. And a proof that The Bible is the word of God.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The facts keep piling up and refuting the Big Bang and that theory keep failing in its predictions.
You have not show one fact that goes against the Big Bang theory. All that you have done is to confirm your general ignorance of science.

Do you not realize that the hypotheses of galaxy formation, something that did not even begin until millions of years after the Big Bang is a totally different area of astronomy? Oh wait, you cannot understand the difference between abiogenesis and evolution.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
They are finding more and more evidence that refutes the Big Con of the Big Bang.

You keep saying that but your claims all turn out to be fake facts and falsehood .. There are many things we do not know about the Universe .. things not yet discovered .. that does not make your made up fake facts about the universe any less false .. nor does your inability to handle correction make salvation a sure bet .. nor your free pass ideology from Marty any less of an anathema to the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus .. nor the earth anywhere near 6000 years old.

and last.. but not least of your false assumptions for this post .. just because the Universe is not expanding the way folks thought .. doesn't negate the Big Bang. ..

Hearken to the words of Jesus in scripture for Salvation Brother SBTLM - rather than the the man made dogma of Idol Martin .. and the snake charmer creation science dogma .. Work towards understanding of the "Will of the Father" .. and be not tempted by the commands of the demiurge .. and learn the Hallowed name of the Father .. so that you know whose will you are following .. as opposed to the one you currently follow .. some wonky path of deceit and self deception and deflection from the Truth ..the way .. the light.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
You keep saying that but your claims all turn out to be fake facts and falsehood .. There are many things we do not know about the Universe .. things not yet discovered .. that does not make your made up fake facts about the universe any less false .. nor does your inability to handle correction make salvation a sure bet .. nor your free pass ideology from Marty any less of an anathema to the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus .. nor the earth anywhere near 6000 years old.

and last.. but not least of your false assumptions for this post .. just because the Universe is not expanding the way folks thought .. doesn't negate the Big Bang. ..

Hearken to the words of Jesus in scripture for Salvation Brother SBTLM - rather than the the man made dogma of Idol Martin .. and the snake charmer creation science dogma .. Work towards understanding of the "Will of the Father" .. and be not tempted by the commands of the demiurge .. and learn the Hallowed name of the Father .. so that you know whose will you are following .. as opposed to the one you currently follow .. some wonky path of deceit and self deception and deflection from the Truth ..the way .. the light.
They are abandoning the Big Bang theory because the evidence and failed predictions prove it false.

 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
They are abandoning the Big Bang theory because the evidence and failed predictions prove it false.


No Friend .. no piece of evidence given in your link claims to have proven the entire Big Bang Theory False. The problem is your lack of understanding of the Theory .. and how these things work in general as related to science. Just because one prediction from the Big Bang is wrong .. does not mean the Big Bang didn't happen .. just didn't happen the way we thought it happened. This is the point where you seem confused.

Now .. maybe there was no "Big Bang" == you must then address the efidence for the Big Bang .. and explain what did happen based on your new evidence and the old. Maybe there is no start .. and the universe has always been here .. and is infinited in its expanse in all directions.

So What ? --- just because it happened different than the Big Bang-up theorists predicted .. does not prove .. nor even suggest that your God created the Universe .. and has absolutely no relevance to your claim that this God of yours - whose name you do not know - created the universe 6000 years ago .. and you should try addressing the evidence thta proves this is false .. evidence given to you previously rather than navel gazing and dwelling on questions where the answer is unknowable to humans at this present time in our evolutionary history in some kind of "Thought Stopping Exercise"

Do you know what a TSE is Friend ?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No Friend .. no piece of evidence given in your link claims to have proven the entire Big Bang Theory False. The problem is your lack of understanding of the Theory .. and how these things work in general as related to science. Just because one prediction from the Big Bang is wrong .. does not mean the Big Bang didn't happen .. just didn't happen the way we thought it happened. This is the point where you seem confused.

Now .. maybe there was no "Big Bang" == you must then address the efidence for the Big Bang .. and explain what did happen based on your new evidence and the old. Maybe there is no start .. and the universe has always been here .. and is infinited in its expanse in all directions.
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So What ? --- just because it happened different than the Big Bang-up theorists predicted .. does not prove .. nor even suggest that your God created the Universe .. and has absolutely no relevance to your claim that this God of yours - whose name you do not know - created the universe 6000 years ago .. and you should try addressing the evidence thta proves this is false .. evidence given to you previously rather than navel gazing and dwelling on questions where the answer is unknowable to humans at this present time in our evolutionary history in some kind of "Thought Stopping Exercise"

Do you know what a TSE is Friend ?
The evidence is piled up to the far reaches of the galaxy and beyond. All of creation eliminates evolution, billions of years and the Big Bust of the Big Con of the Big Bang. The evidence is rolling out all the time and it refutes the Big Bang. The Big Bang's predictions keep failing.

 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
The evidence is piled up to the far reaches of the galaxy and beyond. All of creation eliminates evolution, billions of years and the Big Bust of the Big Con of the Big Bang. The evidence is rolling out all the time and it refutes the Big Bang. The Big Bang's predictions keep failing.

No Friend --- your repetition of premise fallacy, false assumptions , deception and deflection and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the only evidence that is piling up.

Now .. the question you failed to address - Do you know what a Thought Stopping Exercise is ?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No Friend --- your repetition of premise fallacy, false assumptions , deception and deflection and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the only evidence that is piling up.

Now .. the question you failed to address - Do you know what a Thought Stopping Exercise is ?
The Big Band has died. The evidence and its failed prediction killed it.

 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
I addressed your article and wild goose chase. There is no evidence in your article that proves God created all things or that the Bible is the word of God.

Now answer the question friend -- Do you know what a Thought Stopping exercise is ?
So address the article. I do not believe it is from a young earth creationist.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
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Sargonski

Well-Known Member
So address the article. I do not believe it is from a young earth creationist.

I addressed the article -- read the whole thing -- there is not one thing in that article which proves that God created all things. If you feel this is incorrect .. then post something from the article which supports your claim -- perhaps I missed it.

Now address the subject of "Thought Stopping exercizes" .. do you know what these are friend .. a simple yes or no will do.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
I addressed the article -- read the whole thing -- there is not one thing in that article which proves that God created all things. If you feel this is incorrect .. then post something from the article which supports your claim -- perhaps I missed it.

Now address the subject of "Thought Stopping exercizes" .. do you know what these are friend .. a simple yes or no will do.
That was not the conclusion of the non creationist who wrote the article and he is hardly alone.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
That was not the conclusion of the non creationist who wrote the article and he is hardly alone.

Show the conclusion then ? are you this dense or is it disingenuous oblivion ... hiding in these little rabbit holes .. where you point and cry "my point is supported over there" .. then when go look .. there is no such thing.

What conclusion are you talking about and how does this conclusion relate to this thought stopping exercize you are engaged in ?
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The evidence is piled up to the far reaches of the galaxy and beyond. All of creation eliminates evolution, billions of years and the Big Bust of the Big Con of the Big Bang. The evidence is rolling out all the time and it refutes the Big Bang. The Big Bang's predictions keep failing.

The material universe is quite old according to our time, our planet developed over a period of 4.5+ billion years, agents of God set evolution of life in motion 550 million years ago. God has existed from eternity; he inhabits the circle of infinity.
 
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SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
The material universe is quite old according to our time, our planet developed over a period of 4.5+ billion years, agents of God set evolution of life in motion 550 million years ago. God has existed from eternity; he inhabits the circle of infinity.
The Big Bang theory has been abandoned and now there is no way to claim the universe is that old.
So the whole timeline is gone.

 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The Big Bang theory has been abandoned and now there is no way to claim the universe is that old.
So the whole timeline is gone.

No, they are finding that the universe is older than the Big Bang hypothesis.

I guess I should ask, how old do you think God is???
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No, they are finding that the universe is older than the Big Bang hypothesis.

I guess I should ask, how old do you think God is???
And that shows they have no idea what they are talking about.

The age of the universe was supposed to be 13.787±0.020 billion years. and error rage of +- 20 million years.
Now that may double. So the error range should be +- 100%.
That now includes about 6000 years ago.

If they move it out far enough, then the lifetimes of some particles will prove them wrong. If they say infinite then the 2nd law proves that false.
If there is no expansion, the Big Bang did not happen/

 
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